Most hated Anime character !

Hmmmm...this one is a toughie...probably either Gluttony from Fullmetal Alchemist, Ash from Pokemon or Juvia from Fairy Tail. I find Gluttony...pretty useless actually, he doesn't do much apart from eat, and obsess over Lust...he doesn't do alot of fighting at all, and Juvia just annoys me alot. Ash...my god..,his battling skills are pretty bad...and he can't even catch more than 10 pokemon ._. Yeah his fighting spirit is pretty neat...but I just don't like him very much :/ Though I gotta say, he has improved a little in X and Y.
 
-Lapras- said:
That would be true if she wasn't one of the most popular anime characters ever created. Otakubait tsundere numbers have gone up massively since NGE was released.
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Asuka isn't a tsundere, she's a brat. I would use a different b-word if she was a bit older, but since she's a child, brat it is. The whole point of a tsundere is that there's some dere; it's not tsundere if she's all tsun.

Of course, the whole point of NGE is that humanity is broken. The adults are less horrible because they've had their whole life to deal with their problems and generally come across as reasonable people with some serious emotional problems, whereas the kids always wear their problems on their sleeves because they're still young (and this is exacerbated by their horrible situation). So Asuka being a horrible bi... brat is about what you would expect, especially given her backstory. She's not really supposed to be likable. The only real strong character in NGE is Kaworu, and the reason for that is that he's not human.

Oryx said:
Well, the question was what's my least favorite character. Unless you count Angel Beats I have no other experience with Key, so whether or not other characters are that way is irrelevant. When you get down to it, even if I had seen/read more it would be irrelevant, because how other characters are is irrelevant to how I feel about this one.

Her development is a one-episode development, in my opinion. My opinion is not wrong just because you disagree with it; it's that simple. I'm sure to you she's a complex, developed character, but she's not to me. It's not a matter of not understanding things or not catching 'hints' (for the record, there is a no real explanation of her illness online when I googled so your insistence that I just wasn't paying close enough attention is silly), it's just a matter of my opinion differing from yours.
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Whether she is complex and developed is a matter of fact, not opinion, and I'm inclined to agree with you, at least in part. Whether she can empathize with a character that starts off extremely weak and becomes slightly less weak is a matter of personal taste, however. Maybe she saw something else in her that you and I missed.

By the way, your feelings about her and the show in general aren't exactly uncommon. I used to hear similar complaints all the time on /a/.

-Lapras- said:
Oh you are cute.
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Don't do that. There's no reason to be condescending. Having an intellectual disagreement with someone over a fictional character is not a reason to be rude.
 
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twocows said:
Asuka isn't a tsundere, she's a brat. I would use a different b-word if she was a bit older, but since she's a child, brat it is. The whole point of a tsundere is that there's some dere; it's not tsundere if she's all tsun.
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She shows traits and shows the odd glimmer of dere, I agree she isn't really one, even if the majority do consider it. Her popularity undoubtedly influenced future generations of them though.


twocows said:
Don't do that. There's no reason to be condescending. Having an intellectual disagreement with someone over a fictional character is not a reason to be rude.
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I responded to a condescending comment but mine wasn't, I genuinely think Oryx is cute. You need to calm down a bit, kiddo.
 
-Lapras- said:
I responded to a condescending comment but mine wasn't, I genuinely think Oryx is cute. You need to calm down a bit, kiddo.
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Tojo's comment wasn't condescending, it merely stated that she disagrees. In fact, like I said, I think she was being a bit too conciliatory, since whether a character is complex and well-constructed is not a matter of taste but a matter of fact. Whether you found something valuable in that character is a matter of personal taste, but whether a character is well-written is far more objective.

However, disagreeing about a fictional character is not rude. Being condescending to a real person is. And your comment made no sense as anything other than condescension; if it wasn't meant that way, it was a non-sequitur and shouldn't have been there.

Calling someone "kiddo" and telling them to "calm down" is definitely rude however (borderline flamebait), and I'd appreciate if you didn't do that.
 
Oryx said:
I'm sure to you she's a complex, developed character
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We were talking about a Clannad character, If this wasn't intended in that manner then I would be surprised.

I'd appreciate if you calmed down and backed off.
 
Wasn't condescending - you argued that she wasn't flat, therefore I could assume that you believed she was complex/developed. Even more so as you continued to argue your belief that she wasn't flat.
 
I really hate Juvia Lockser from Fairy Tail. However, I probably wouldn't hate her so much if I didn't see so many people actually ship her with Gray. Her obsession with him was kind of funny in the beginning, it had a couple good moments, but honestly it's been 100+ episodes and I'm really gettin' tired of hearing "Gray-sama!" To me, at this point, her clingy-ness and unwillingness to back off is more creepy than cute (especially since the side-story chapter where we got a view of her apartment and Gray stuff was everywhere).

Other than that, probably every character in NGE. I honestly couldn't care about any of them enough to actually be interested in what happened to them.
 
This is actually really tricky since there aren't actually that many characters I don't like hmmm

Burgundy (Pokémon BW) - How I managed to push myself through this region I don't know, it really was terrible after how amazing the Sinnoh storyline was. The worst part of it though was by far Burgundy. Her voice, her use of random French words for no reason, her design and her attitude. Everything about her was annoying.

Sakura (Naruto) - She's actually had some awesome moments, Sakura and Chiyo vs Sasori was one of the best fights I have seen in an anime but outside of these rare moments of awesomeness she's just whiny, sulky and generally useless despite having adamantly sworn that she was going to be the opposite. As far as the female characters go in the series she is vastly overshadowed by Temari and Hinata only succeeding in being more interesting then Tenten... speaking of which

Tenten (Naruto) - If you're going to include her amongst some of the most notable characters in the franchise at least make her interesting. She doesn't blend into the background enough to just be a background character but doesn't have any overly interesting moments either. Now Tenten, that's a flat character.

Spandam (One Piece) - He fulfilled his role of being a power hungry ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ very well. If that's all they'd made him that would be fine. If he spilled one more cup of coffee I was going to flip a table. I get that clumsiness and stupidity re parts of his character, but when the most destructive military manoeuvre in existence is called by accident it kind of takes away from the more serious tone of that arc.

Mitsuki (Sakura Trick) - Right up until the very end, this character was a drain on an otherwise fantastic anime. I don't want to reveal any spoilers or anything but her ridiculous antics because of her denial took up space that could have been devoted to more interesting storylines. She had the makings of a great character but I think her interference was handled poorly until the very last few episodes.

I'm sure there are more but those are all I can think of right now.
 
10 10 one is interesting as most people like her. Seems as if she might become relevant for a little while over the next few chapters actually. She'll probably end up screwing up though because she's a female in the Narutoverse.
 
Satoshi Ookami said:
Come again? She's the beginning of tsundere fandom and... you say she's not tsundere?
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Just because something is the genesis of a trend does not mean it is part of that trend. I already explained my reasons why I said what I said, you just cut them out when you quoted me.

Moreover, I'm pretty sure the concept of "tsundere" existed before NGE, I think it was just the popularity of NGE that made it take off to a greater extent.
 
Dunno when the term came about but there are certainly characters that could be classed as tsundere created decades before NGE. It was the series that inspired generations including a tsundere purely for otaku to wank over though.
 
I kind of really hate Max from Pokemon Advanced series. Mostly I think just cause I hated that there were four characters. It always works better when there's just three of them and I think Max was the one who could be most easily removed.
 
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