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MOVESET for salamence and for gengar
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Not "say" it's "post" lol (just wanted to post that :P)
So many sets for Mence...
MixMence@Life Orb/Focus Sash
Trait : Intimidate
EV's : 102 ATK / 158 SAK / 252 SPD
Nature : Hasty/Naive
Moves :
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Claw/Dragon Rush
My favorite Salamence of ALL time
SpecsMence@Choice Specs
Trait : Intimidate
EV's : 252 SAK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Nature : Hasty/Naive/Timid
Moves :
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse
- Hydro Pump
- Fire Blast
Draco Meteor is a 1HKO to almost everything. It's a 2HKO to even Blissey.
BandMence@Choice Band
Trait : Intimidate
EV's : 252 ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Nature : Hasty/Naive/Jolly
Moves :
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Dragon Claw/Dragon Rush
- Crunch
Extremely powerful Mence although I recommend DDMence
Salamence@Life Orb/Focus Sash
Trait : Intimidate
EV's : 252 ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Nature : Adamant/Lonely/Naughty/Naive/Hasty/Jolly
Moves :
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Stone Edge/Crunch
Regular Salamence
As for Gengar..
Gengar@Focus Sash/Wide Lens
Trait : Levitate
EV's : 252 SAK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Nature : Timid/Hasty/Naive
Moves :
- Shadow Ball/HP Ice
- Thunderbolt/Thunder
- Focus Blast
- Hypnosis/HP Ice/Energy Ball
Sp. Sweeperrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
So many sets for Mence...
MixMence@Life Orb/Focus Sash
Trait : Intimidate
EV's : 102 ATK / 158 SAK / 252 SPD
Nature : Hasty/Naive
Moves :
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Claw/Dragon Rush
My favorite Salamence of ALL time
SpecsMence@Choice Specs
Trait : Intimidate
EV's : 252 SAK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Nature : Hasty/Naive/Timid
Moves :
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse
- Hydro Pump
- Fire Blast
Draco Meteor is a 1HKO to almost everything. It's a 2HKO to even Blissey.
BandMence@Choice Band
Trait : Intimidate
EV's : 252 ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Nature : Hasty/Naive/Jolly
Moves :
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Dragon Claw/Dragon Rush
- Crunch
Extremely powerful Mence although I recommend DDMence
Salamence@Life Orb/Focus Sash
Trait : Intimidate
EV's : 252 ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Nature : Adamant/Lonely/Naughty/Naive/Hasty/Jolly
Moves :
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Stone Edge/Crunch
Regular Salamence
As for Gengar..
Gengar@Focus Sash/Wide Lens
Trait : Levitate
EV's : 252 SAK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Nature : Timid/Hasty/Naive
Moves :
- Shadow Ball/HP Ice
- Thunderbolt/Thunder
- Focus Blast
- Hypnosis/HP Ice/Energy Ball
Sp. Sweeperrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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There's already a Thread for this: https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/56386
..........................What the heck? Thats the Request a Team thread :\
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Well. You can request movesets there too, i'm assuming. Here's an alternate, if that Thread is bad, https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/56386 Unfortunaly, it doesn't mention Salamence..
Salamence @ Choice Specs
Trait: Intimidate
Modest Nature (+Special Attack -Attack)
- Hydro Pump
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Pulse
- Draco Meteor.. Standard Specsmence.... 4th Gen Set
Salamence @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
Adamant/Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power Flying
- Rock Slide
- Flamethrower/Double-Edge/Brick Break. 3rd Gen..
Well it doesn't really matter too much. If he wants movesets, give it to him XD
I already posted the Specsmence set :\
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Why hasn't anybody posted McIceGar?
Gengar @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 196 Atk / 184 Spd / 128 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Ice Punch (3rd gen) / HP Ice (4th gen)
- Thunderbolt
Woot woot woot!
Gengar @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 196 Atk / 184 Spd / 128 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Ice Punch (3rd gen) / HP Ice (4th gen)
- Thunderbolt
Woot woot woot!
Mine IS a McIceGar with HP Ice :\ Focus Punch is USELESS while there is Focus Blast
If your saying "BLISSEY!!!", sleep the fool and Focus Blast. It's a 3-4HKO. Blissey won't be able to do ANYTHING to Gengar if it doesn't have Ice Beam, which most Blissey's now don't have Ice Beam
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Blisset very commonly has IB in D/P. But really, blissey can just outstall you with softboiled, and it paralyzes you wityh no sub. It doesn't really fear focus blast at all :/
Thats why Gengar has Hypnosis. Blissey has Aromatherapy, but it won't be able to use it while its sleeping.
Blissey's most standard moveset goes
Blissey@Leftovers
Trait : Natural Cure
Moves :
- Seismic Toss
- Aromatherapy
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave
D/P now dislikes the use of Ice Beam, it's almost useless unless a Dragon comes out at Blissey. Tangrowth can Power Whip = 2hko. Seismic Toss is used WAY more nowadays. If people can't get Seismic Toss, they get Counter. Ice Beam was used because of Serene Grace boost, freeze haxxxx
Focus Blast IS a 3HKO. Sleep Blissey, and strike Focus Blast.
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Really, the user can switch out bliss (natural cure)...into something that absorbs focus blast and stands a chance. (leik, quick claw rhydon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
lol Rhydon can't really take a Focus Blast. Solid Rock? Maybe, but Gengar will still outrun and strike. Quick Claw Rhydon/Rhyperior, Quick Claw = Hax item.
Blissey comes in again... Hypnosis for you my buddy. If cured, then switch back in, sleep, cure and so on. The big thing is you can't outrun in any ways.
Rhydon is in nowhere of absorbing Focus Blast
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Focus Punch is a 2HKO and Focus Blast is a 4/5hko.
Its mainly a SkarmBliss counter, as to why its used .
Ive actully seen steadily an increase in Ice Beam on Blissey especially on shoddy battle.
Its mainly a SkarmBliss counter, as to why its used .
Ive actully seen steadily an increase in Ice Beam on Blissey especially on shoddy battle.
For what? Even if it increases, did it lead the user well? Did it work for them well?
Gengar is a Special Sweeper with large type coverage. This is 4th generation.
I beg to differ about Focus Blast being a 4/5HKO. It's a 3HKO
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It was a joke lol...
I'm stuck in 3rd gen anyways. But poikemon like Zam come in and then do-mi-nate. Really, lots of pokemon can at least absorb it and then take out gengar. Really, McIceGar is a great skarmbliss counter...assuming it doesn't haave ice beam, but both sets are screwed by that...
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Ah...well, specs gengar MAYBE, but then bliss isn't asleep...
Wait, how is bliss with lefties a bad sign? for gengar, maybe
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Well one of the most common Blissey counters is Garchomp or a Bulky ground type expecting a thunderwave, so if you can catch it on the switch in with Ice Beam you can at least put a dent in it. Also what is unusual ,is that ive also seen alot of people putting Ice Beam on Dragon Dance Tyranitar for the same reason, just to dent Hippowdon, Glisor, Garchomp and other Bulky ground types who somewhat wall the standard and force you to switch out.
Focus Blast is a 4HKO
from Timid Gengar on a 714 HP/ 306 SP.DEF Blissey it does
hp damage :204 - 241
Damage: 28.57% - 33.75%
from metal kids calculator
EDIT: I read your edit about the choice specs on Gengar.
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Ok...but yeah, gengar is pretty diverse. Really, no matter what set you use, they're all good. your call.