my new emerald

poketrainer2004 said:
if you had read my post closer you would see that i said that people who favor attack over recovery wold say "wasteful"... i was silently agreeing with you but you werent paying attention.
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I understood what you said, I was saying that even for people that favor attack over recovery it isn't wasteful. Those people just don't understand the true value of the move. Recovery is only half of it.
 
poketrainer2004 said:
if you had read my post closer you would see that i said that people who favor attack over recovery wold say "wasteful"... i was silently agreeing with you but you werent paying attention.
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Atacking straight up is for nubs that dont know waht they're doing. Plus if you
didnt know, seeding takes out HP from your opponent, meaning waller like Blissey and Snorlax are crippled plus attackers that cant heal themselves are getting screwed slowly for every turn that goes by.
poketrainer2004 said:
Rayquaza is banned but good salamence set could easily beat you
Besides when i post in a place like this i always assume that anything can happen... that is a mistake most n00bs make, not being prepared for everything possible and not accepting the fact that it could happen
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Subseed > Salmence, Sceptile=Subseed, therefore Sceptile > Salamence

a good salmence is hard to find, plus it needs to start in order to actually make an actual difference because Sceptile is faster than Salmence. And please dont tell me I am wrong unless I actually see you netbattling with your strategy of... Lol.. Attacking Sceptile
 
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shanecdavis][/SIZE] Quote:
Originally Posted by poketrainer2004 [PokeCommunity.com] my new emerald
if you had read my post closer you would see that i said that people who favor attack over recovery wold say "wasteful"... i was silently agreeing with you but you werent paying attention.

I understood what you said, I was saying that even for people that favor attack over recovery it isn't wasteful. Those people just don't understand the true value of the move. Recovery is only half of it.
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Rubberbandman said:
Atacking straight up is for nubs that dont know waht they're doing. Plus if you
didnt know, seeding takes out HP from your opponent, meaning waller like Blissey and Snorlax are crippled plus attackers that cant heal themselves are getting screwed slowly for every turn that goes by.



Subseed > Salmence, Sceptile=Subseed, therefore Sceptile > Salamence

a good salmence is hard to find, plus it needs to start in order to actually make an actual difference because Sceptile is faster than Salmence. And please dont tell me I am wrong unless I actually see you netbattling with your strategy of... Lol.. Attacking Sceptile
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Attacking straight up is not n00bish but overcofidence is n00bish
Second, i know exactly what leach seed does and are familiar with its uses
i.e. taking down wallers.
Finally a good trainer who is determined to train a good salamence would have not only a high sp.atk but high speed as well. if someone were to take the time train a salamence with say...a hasty nature
and last but not least

in order for this -->"Sceptile > Salamence" to be true sceptile must be faster and have dragon claw.
i belive you,Rubberbandman,are suffering from a case of overconfidence
the whole point of this statement
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Originally Posted by poketrainer2004 [PokeCommunity.com] my new emerald
Rayquaza is banned but good salamence set could easily beat you
Besides when i post in a place like this i always assume that anything can happen... that is a mistake most n00bs make, not being prepared for everything possible and not accepting the fact that it could happen

is that you must accept the fact that it could happen and the fact that it is a "subseeder" DOES NOT MAKE IT INVINCIBLE TO ANYTHING
i am not saying that is a bad idea just that you are being a little overconfident...
 
gold typhlosion said:
um...no TORCHIC is better than mudkip,im only having a hard time on magneton,and torchic can whip it.
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Don't know how I missed this one. LOL Ummm, gold typhlosion, you do know that by the time you face Wattson that Mudkip should have evolved into Marshtomp, right? You do know that Marshtomp is Water/Ground, right? You do know that Marshtomp is immune to Electric attacks, right? The only move Magnemite/Magneton can use on Marshtomp is Sonic Boom, which always does 20 DP. Against Torchic/Combusken, it can use both Thundershock and Spark, both that do more damage than Sonic Boom. Then if you take into consideration that Marshtomp has better defenses than Combusken, it is easy to see that Mudkip is far and away the greatest starter ever.

poketrainer2004 said:
Attacking straight up is not n00bish but overcofidence is n00bish
Second, i know exactly what leach seed does and are familiar with its uses
i.e. taking down wallers.
Finally a good trainer who is determined to train a good salamence would have not only a high sp.atk but high speed as well. if someone were to take the time train a salamence with say...a hasty nature
and last but not least

in order for this -->"Sceptile > Salamence" to be true sceptile must be faster and have dragon claw.
i belive you,Rubberbandman,are suffering from a case of overconfidence
the whole point of this statement
Quote:
Originally Posted by poketrainer2004
Rayquaza is banned but good salamence set could easily beat you
Besides when i post in a place like this i always assume that anything can happen... that is a mistake most n00bs make, not being prepared for everything possible and not accepting the fact that it could happen

is that you must accept the fact that it could happen and the fact that it is a "subseeder" DOES NOT MAKE IT INVINCIBLE TO ANYTHING
i am not saying that is a bad idea just that you are being a little overconfident...
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Where do I begin? Okay, straight up attacking is noobish. Too many trainers don't understand the necessity of utility moves such as Leech Seed, Heal Bell, Spikes, Rapid Spin, etc. If you have a trainer that has 6 Pokes that are molded under the noobish "straight up attacking" mentality, they are just asking for a wall to come in and neutralize them. As you said, you need to "always assume anything can happen". What happens if your walls fall and all you have left are straight up attackers? You lose.

Also, Sceptile doesn't need Dragon Claw to beat Salamence. After Mence gets seeded, all Sceppy needs to do is Sub every turn, and just wait for Mence to either faint or get switched out, which in turn allows Sub to stick, and Sceppy can then Seed whatever the next Poke that comes out is. Also a good Salamence will be Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk), either DD or CB, with Fire Blast to take on Steel-types. A special Salamence isn't as effective, especially when you consider its base Atk is 135 and its SAtk is 110. Even if you do use a +Spd and max Spd EVs, it doesn't matter since any good Sceptile will be Timid (+Spd, -Atk), making it still faster than Salamence.
 
ok i updated....new pokemon/moves in bold

Delcatty Lv39
ThunderBolt
Ice Beam
Heal Bell
Faint Attack

Sceptile Lv38
Leaf Blade
Agility
Screech
Pursuit

Camerupt Lv37
Earthquake
Flamethrower
Rock Slide
Take Down

Swalot Lv36
Sludge
Giga Drain
Shock Wave
Body Slam

Swellow Lv35
Wing Attack
Endeavor
Quick Attack
Aerial Ace


o.k.....i have 6 badges
 
gold typhlosion said:
ok i updated....new pokemon/moves in bold

Delcatty Lv39
ThunderBolt
Ice Beam
Heal Bell
Faint Attack

Delcatty's ok but I'm not a fan of using Delcatty so I dont really know good moves for it.

Sceptile Lv38
Leaf Blade
Dragon Claw
Thunderpunch/Crunch
Aerial Ace

Meh... I still go with what I said before. Otherwise do what shane suggested and breed for a new one.

Camerupt Lv37
Earthquake
Flamethrower
Body Slam / Return
Toxic

Swalot Lv36
Sludge Bomb
Giga Drain
Shock Wave
Body Slam

Sludge Bomb is better than Sludge so either teach it the TM or wait till lvl 48 when it learns it.

Swellow Lv35
Facade
Rest
Sleep Talk
Aerial Ace

Firstly dont need two attacks of the same type especially when they do the same damage but one is better because it cant miss. The other three moves can be really powerful put together. I think it was something like Rest, Sleep Talk=Facade. And Facade's power will boost quite a lot as well as using Swellow's ability of Guts which will pump up its attack when on low health then followed by Rest + Sleep Talk.

o.k.....i have 6 badges
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Well... there's your new team and I put in what I thought again.
 
I told you already ill put those moves dopwn when i GET them.
 
Wow, he is giving you a lot of grief, isn't he Alex?

I realize its hard to suggest moves for some these Pokemon considering Delcatty downright sucks and Swalot ain't the brightest crayon in the box either. Try Weezing next time IMO.

Flamethrower, Body Slam, Earthquake, Rock Slide for Camerupt.

Delcatty sucks so replace it with Regice if you can. Your team needs more special involved.

Swellow is cool, but I'm not the biggest fan of STalking. It doesn't seem to cut it with its low Defenses. If it uses something other than Facade, then its basicly a goner. I like CBing Swellow better. Hit and kill right there. (BTW - Swellow CB set is Aerial Ace, Return, Quick Attack, and I think Steel Wing is the last slot).

Sceptile is...ok I guess. Use Alex's set. The only cool thing IMO about Sceptile is Leaf Blade, but that's just me.

Good Day

~LM~
 
Lord Mike said:
Wow, he is giving you a lot of grief, isn't he Alex?

I realize its hard to suggest moves for some these Pokemon considering Delcatty downright sucks and Swalot ain't the brightest crayon in the box either. Try Weezing next time IMO.

Flamethrower, Body Slam, Earthquake, Rock Slide for Camerupt.

Delcatty sucks so replace it with Regice if you can. Your team needs more special involved.

Swellow is cool, but I'm not the biggest fan of STalking. It doesn't seem to cut it with its low Defenses. If it uses something other than Facade, then its basicly a goner. I like CBing Swellow better. Hit and kill right there. (BTW - Swellow CB set is Aerial Ace, Return, Quick Attack, and I think Steel Wing is the last slot).

Sceptile is...ok I guess. Use Alex's set. The only cool thing IMO about Sceptile is Leaf Blade, but that's just me.

Good Day

~LM~
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Im a FEMALEand delcatty doesnt suck.</duh>
 
Lord Mike said:
Wow, he is giving you a lot of grief, isn't he Alex?
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Meh, I dont really mind if she is or not. I'm just suggesting it doesnt really work if you keep updating teams that still need the necessary changes to make it better.
Lord Mike said:
I realize its hard to suggest moves for some these Pokemon considering Delcatty downright sucks and Swalot ain't the brightest crayon in the box either. Try Weezing next time IMO.
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I never use Delcatty or Swalot so moves for them was a little bit hard for me to think of, but I do use Skitty sometimes. They arent great to have for battling.
Lord Mike said:
Delcatty sucks so replace it with Regice if you can. Your team needs more special involved.
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You dont like Delcatty do you? XD Regice isnt that good IMO, Meh, she has no water types so maybe a Lapras actually or some water type that is powerful and has high defences etc.
Lord Mike said:
Swellow is cool, but I'm not the biggest fan of STalking. It doesn't seem to cut it with its low Defenses. If it uses something other than Facade, then its basicly a goner. I like CBing Swellow better. Hit and kill right there. (BTW - Swellow CB set is Aerial Ace, Return, Quick Attack, and I think Steel Wing is the last slot).
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True.... but Swellow's abilities make it almost perfect for that moveset apart from the minor setback of defence...
Lord Mike said:
Sceptile is...ok I guess. Use Alex's set. The only cool thing IMO about Sceptile is Leaf Blade, but that's just me.
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XD I only like Sceptile for its Leaf Blade too.​
 
Swalot and Delcatty are both really weak and lame pokemon even in NU metagame. So dont bother to use them. Swalot is ok in NU, actually.
 
3-1 now. And GT you need to accept the fact that there ARE much better Pokemon than Delcatty or Swalot. Like I said, Weezing has adequate Attack and Special Attack, and great Defense. Good physical tank for game IMO.
 
Meh, even Swalot is cr*p too. Better off using Weezing or Arbok or something useful, (excluding ubers).
 
Why excluding ubers? They nothing to be afraid of. Weezing is a good replacement for Swalot, and for delcatty..... well anything is a good replacement for delcatty but i'd recommend a mence if you can get one or hera. both good sweepers and would be a great addition to your team.
 
swaqlot is crap,its beaten every gym for me.
 
Listen to these people they know what they're talking about.
And as for swalot beating every gym for you, listen people have beat the game using on wurmples. All you have to do is raise the pokemon until it gets to a high enough level and they will be able to beat the game.
 
mrplanters said:
Listen to these people they know what they're talking about.
And as for swalot beating every gym for you, listen people have beat the game using on wurmples. All you have to do is raise the pokemon until it gets to a high enough level and they will be able to beat the game.
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That's all you mainly have to do...
 
Futue said:
zomg. any pokemon can beat every gym if there high enough level. even a magikarp can with a high level. thats what makes in-game pokemon too easy...
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I'd evolve it to Gyarados. Luvdisc is quite good too
 
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