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    Dragonite @ Weakness Policy
    Ability: Multiscale
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
    Jolly Nature
    - Roost
    - Dragon Claw
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake

    Talonflame @ Choice Band
    Ability: Gale Wings
    EVs: 100 Spd / 252 Atk / 156 HP
    - Flare Blitz
    - U-turn
    - Brave Bird
    - Tailwind

    Gourgeist-Super @ Leftovers
    Ability: Frisk
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Seed Bomb
    - Leech Seed
    - Pain Split

    Forretress @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk
    Relaxed Nature
    IVs: 0 Spd
    - Stealth Rock
    - Volt Switch
    - Rapid Spin
    - Gyro Ball

    Lucario @ Lucarionite
    Ability: Justified
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
    Jolly Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Close Combat
    - Crunch
    - Bullet Punch

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
    Bold Nature
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam
    - Wish
    - Protect
    I'm basically already done it's just that if you noticed, i have three Pokemon with leftovers. I just wanted to know what other items I could use. I'm pretty sure Vaporeon needs Leftovers the most but what do i give to gourgeist and forretress?
    Please help me, this team has worked really well so far in terms of synergy and consistency.
     

    Nah

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    Three Pokemon holding the sme item isn't a problem if this is for battles on Pokemon Showdown or with your friends. If its for official tournaments or Battle Spot battles, then its a problem.

    But it's actually Forretress that needs the Leftovers the most, since it lacks any sort of recovery whatsoever. Vaporeon can heal itself with Wish+Protect (or even Water Absorb), and Gourgeist has Leech Seed and Pain Split for recovery. So give Vaporeon or Gourgeist a Lum Berry to deal with status. The other one could use...maybe a Sitrus Berry or an Enigma Berry. Not a lotta options.

    And does Tailwind really work on a Choice set?
     

    PlatinumDude

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    Three Pokemon holding the sme item isn't a problem if this is for battles on Pokemon Showdown or with your friends. If its for official tournaments or Battle Spot battles, then its a problem.

    But it's actually Forretress that needs the Leftovers the most, since it lacks any sort of recovery whatsoever. Vaporeon can heal itself with Wish+Protect (or even Water Absorb), and Gourgeist has Leech Seed and Pain Split for recovery. So give Vaporeon or Gourgeist a Lum Berry to deal with status. The other one could use...maybe a Sitrus Berry or an Enigma Berry. Not a lotta options.

    And does Tailwind really work on a Choice set?

    Talonflame uses Tailwind as a last-ditch effort to support the team before it goes down. Speaking of Talonflame, it needs enough Speed EVs to outspeed Jolly Mega Kangaskhan (Adamant with 92 HP/252 Atk/164 Spe).

    Dragonite needs Fire Punch or Thunder Punch over Earthquake or Roost.

    Also, since Talonflame and Dragonite are weak to Stealth Rock, a Rapid Spinner is needed. Excadrill and Starmie do this job for you:
    Excadrill:
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Slide
    -Rapid Spin
    -Shadow Claw/Swords Dance
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Assault Vest/Air Balloon
    Ability: Mold Breaker/Sand Rush

    Starmie:
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Psyshock/Thunderbolt
    -Ice Beam
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure

    or
    -Scald
    -Rapid Spin
    -Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
    -Recover
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
     
  • 14
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    Talonflame uses Tailwind as a last-ditch effort to support the team before it goes down. Speaking of Talonflame, it needs enough Speed EVs to outspeed Jolly Mega Kangaskhan (Adamant with 92 HP/252 Atk/164 Spe).

    Dragonite needs Fire Punch or Thunder Punch over Earthquake or Roost.

    Also, since Talonflame and Dragonite are weak to Stealth Rock, a Rapid Spinner is needed. Excadrill and Starmie do this job for you:
    Excadrill:
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Slide
    -Rapid Spin
    -Shadow Claw/Swords Dance
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Assault Vest/Air Balloon
    Ability: Mold Breaker/Sand Rush

    Starmie:
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Psyshock/Thunderbolt
    -Ice Beam
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure

    or
    -Scald
    -Rapid Spin
    -Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
    -Recover
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure

    I actually have Forretress as my rapid spinner. As soon as i set up my rocks i either use Volt Switch (depending on what Pokemon they led with) or I switch out.
     

    Nah

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    Talonflame uses Tailwind as a last-ditch effort to support the team before it goes down. Speaking of Talonflame, it needs enough Speed EVs to outspeed Jolly Mega Kangaskhan (Adamant with 92 HP/252 Atk/164 Spe).

    Dragonite needs Fire Punch or Thunder Punch over Earthquake or Roost.

    Ah, ok. That makes sense.

    And I'm getting the feeling that Dragonite is suffering from 4 moveslot syndrome this gen.
     
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