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Dragonkid0207

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    Dragonite @ Weakness Policy
    Ability: Multiscale
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
    Jolly Nature
    - Roost
    - Dragon Claw
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake

    Talonflame @ Choice Band
    Ability: Gale Wings
    EVs: 100 Spd / 252 Atk / 156 HP
    - Flare Blitz
    - U-turn
    - Brave Bird
    - Tailwind

    Gourgeist-Super @ Leftovers
    Ability: Frisk
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Seed Bomb
    - Leech Seed
    - Pain Split

    Forretress @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk
    Relaxed Nature
    IVs: 0 Spd
    - Stealth Rock
    - Volt Switch
    - Rapid Spin
    - Gyro Ball

    Lucario @ Lucarionite
    Ability: Justified
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
    Jolly Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Close Combat
    - Crunch
    - Bullet Punch

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
    Bold Nature
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam
    - Wish
    - Protect
    I'm basically already done it's just that if you noticed, i have three Pokemon with leftovers. I just wanted to know what other items I could use. I'm pretty sure Vaporeon needs Leftovers the most but what do i give to gourgeist and forretress?
    Please help me, this team has worked really well so far in terms of synergy and consistency.
     
    Three Pokemon holding the sme item isn't a problem if this is for battles on Pokemon Showdown or with your friends. If its for official tournaments or Battle Spot battles, then its a problem.

    But it's actually Forretress that needs the Leftovers the most, since it lacks any sort of recovery whatsoever. Vaporeon can heal itself with Wish+Protect (or even Water Absorb), and Gourgeist has Leech Seed and Pain Split for recovery. So give Vaporeon or Gourgeist a Lum Berry to deal with status. The other one could use...maybe a Sitrus Berry or an Enigma Berry. Not a lotta options.

    And does Tailwind really work on a Choice set?
     
    No Chance Without Zekrom said:
    Three Pokemon holding the sme item isn't a problem if this is for battles on Pokemon Showdown or with your friends. If its for official tournaments or Battle Spot battles, then its a problem.

    But it's actually Forretress that needs the Leftovers the most, since it lacks any sort of recovery whatsoever. Vaporeon can heal itself with Wish+Protect (or even Water Absorb), and Gourgeist has Leech Seed and Pain Split for recovery. So give Vaporeon or Gourgeist a Lum Berry to deal with status. The other one could use...maybe a Sitrus Berry or an Enigma Berry. Not a lotta options.

    And does Tailwind really work on a Choice set?
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    Talonflame uses Tailwind as a last-ditch effort to support the team before it goes down. Speaking of Talonflame, it needs enough Speed EVs to outspeed Jolly Mega Kangaskhan (Adamant with 92 HP/252 Atk/164 Spe).

    Dragonite needs Fire Punch or Thunder Punch over Earthquake or Roost.

    Also, since Talonflame and Dragonite are weak to Stealth Rock, a Rapid Spinner is needed. Excadrill and Starmie do this job for you:
    Excadrill:
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Slide
    -Rapid Spin
    -Shadow Claw/Swords Dance
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Assault Vest/Air Balloon
    Ability: Mold Breaker/Sand Rush

    Starmie:
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Psyshock/Thunderbolt
    -Ice Beam
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure

    or
    -Scald
    -Rapid Spin
    -Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
    -Recover
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
     
    PlatinumDude said:
    Talonflame uses Tailwind as a last-ditch effort to support the team before it goes down. Speaking of Talonflame, it needs enough Speed EVs to outspeed Jolly Mega Kangaskhan (Adamant with 92 HP/252 Atk/164 Spe).

    Dragonite needs Fire Punch or Thunder Punch over Earthquake or Roost.

    Also, since Talonflame and Dragonite are weak to Stealth Rock, a Rapid Spinner is needed. Excadrill and Starmie do this job for you:
    Excadrill:
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Slide
    -Rapid Spin
    -Shadow Claw/Swords Dance
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Assault Vest/Air Balloon
    Ability: Mold Breaker/Sand Rush

    Starmie:
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Psyshock/Thunderbolt
    -Ice Beam
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure

    or
    -Scald
    -Rapid Spin
    -Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
    -Recover
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Click to expand...

    I actually have Forretress as my rapid spinner. As soon as i set up my rocks i either use Volt Switch (depending on what Pokemon they led with) or I switch out.
     
    PlatinumDude said:
    Talonflame uses Tailwind as a last-ditch effort to support the team before it goes down. Speaking of Talonflame, it needs enough Speed EVs to outspeed Jolly Mega Kangaskhan (Adamant with 92 HP/252 Atk/164 Spe).

    Dragonite needs Fire Punch or Thunder Punch over Earthquake or Roost.
    Click to expand...

    Ah, ok. That makes sense.

    And I'm getting the feeling that Dragonite is suffering from 4 moveslot syndrome this gen.
     
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