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New Prefix in BW forum

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If you search "Black 2 and White 2", we don't come up. So yes, we should be worried about our Google listing in relation to these games.
You missed his point. The forum doesn't exactly need the advertising, we have around 300,000 members. Second of all, everyone has a different search result. When I search "Black and White 2" I get a game developed by Lionhead. If I search Pokemon Black & White 2, I don't even get a forum on the first page. All you're going to get at this stage is news sites.

Furthermore, searching "Black and White 2" has no relevance to this prefix, since we're not changing it to that. So to finish my point, no, google stats aren't going to matter in choosing a prefix. Because if I search [b/w2] I get a result for Chinese Wholesale. So that whole google result issue is nonsensical.
 
Whoa...so much discussion over a prefix... :<

People can still call it Black and White 2 but the fact of the matter is that it's the official name. Why go for an unofficial name just because it looks better?

The games are officially called Black 2 and White 2, not Black and White 2. And thus we should be following that. People can call it what they want but it's the improper way.

You're buying Black 2 or White 2. You're not buying Black or White 2.

Hit the nail on the head right here. Although I kind of have issues on calling things by their official names sometimes (namely, Power Rangers Samurai), both games individually have "2"s at the end of them. I personally prefer the prefix B2/W2 - it maintains consistency and indicates that each game is a sequel.

It's the same as saying the 'on- and off button', you don't say 'the on-button and the off-button'.There is a way of saying that if you are speaking of two things that both end in the same, and it's no different with these games. Seperately you say them like Black 2, and the other game White 2. When you speak of them together it's 'Black and White 2'. It's just the correct way of saying those sort of things lol.

STOP NINJAING KAOR!!

Hmm...I think I see your point here. Not sure if the following example works here, but I tend to hear paired versions referred to as variants of Pokemon Red and Blue Versions, rather than Pokemon Red Version and Pokemon Blue Version. However, in this case, I think there needs to be additional clarity when writing things out and being gramatically correct, as opposed to just writing how they're said aloud...

Maybe make a poll in the B/W section to see which one wins out? Then the opinions of the B/W regulars that aren't also CQF regulars could be gauged and whichever one wins, wins.

Good idea. :cer_nod:

Piggybacking: B2 and W2 are also the official abbreviations.

(Incidentally, LG/FR are the official ones for FireRed and LeafGreen. I get that we never used that term here.)

I was wondering whether any official abbreviations had been used already in Japan... If B2 and W2 are official, then it's all the more reason for B2/W2 to be used. Although B/W2 or B&W2 isn't necessarily incorrect based on the pronunciations of the two BW sequel versions as a singular entity, B/W2 may make it seem like only White Version is getting a sequel, or that the sequel in question is a singular game/entity titled Black and White 2, making no clear distinction about there being sequel versions.

Didn't know about the "LG/FR" notation being the official abbreviations for FireRed and LeafGreen... Weird; nearly every FR/LG media I've seen has positioned "FireRed/FR" in front of "LeafGreen/LG" in notation. :x

Additionally, I know that Diamond/Pearl/Platinum are usually abbreviated as DPPt, but I've seen some places like the Pokemon TCG opting for DPt instead, omitting the second "P". (IIRC, DPPt is just as official as DPt, so that doesn't really make a difference...)

Aesthetically (which really shouldn't come into play IMO, but is a factor nonetheless), I feel that B2/W2 looks more straightforward and more "symmetrical" than B/W2. I don't think the ampersand should be used, or else it will look inconsistent with the other subforums' prefixes.
 
You missed his point. The forum doesn't exactly need the advertising, we have around 300,000 members. Second of all, everyone has a different search result. When I search "Black and White 2" I get a game developed by Lionhead. If I search Pokemon Black & White 2, I don't even get a forum on the first page. All you're going to get at this stage is news sites.

Furthermore, searching "Black and White 2" has no relevance to this prefix, since we're not changing it to that. So to finish my point, no, google stats aren't going to matter in choosing a prefix. Because if I search [b/w2] I get a result for Chinese Wholesale. So that whole google result issue is nonsensical.

If you looked at the threads, when you click them the prefix expands into Black 2/White 2. In the future, someone is going to search something like "Black 2 ___(insert question here)___" and get to PC because we have a thread on it and the Black 2 was set off by the prefix. A lot of people get here from Google.

I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't just give up on Google rankings because we want an aesthetic change.

I was wondering whether any official abbreviations had been used already in Japan... If B2 and W2 are official, then it's all the more reason for B2/W2 to be used. Although B/W2 or B&W2 isn't necessarily incorrect based on the pronunciations of the two BW sequel versions as a singular entity, B/W2 may make it seem like only White Version is getting a sequel, or that the sequel in question is a singular game/entity titled Black and White 2, making no clear distinction about there being sequel versions.

https://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/b2w2/

The Japanese site uses it as the official abbreviation in their URL. The US just has "pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2", although you can tell they're being official, with the version and "pokemon" next to both.

Edit: Fun fact, if you search "b2w2 Pokemon", PC is the first-second result. We don't show up on bw2 at all. If we switch it then most likely we'd lose that ranking for b2w2, the official acronym...for aesthetics.
 
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I'm going to close this. Toujours pretty much summed it all up, especially with linking to the official site that uses the acronyms that we're using now for the prefix. This thread is going to follow the same suit that it's been in since it's been opened - senseless debating.

The prefix isn't going to be getting changed, sorry.
 
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