5th Gen New Types?

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Jerme said:
i would like a pure flying type maybe it can be an albatross that never touches the ground because they are known for flying very long but hey look i found some examples of light types ha

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Ugh... the Pokemon Factory is just... no. THEY'RE examples of why everyone hates Light Type. Theirs IS just another way of saying Electric. I support Light type, but I do not support basically anything that Pokemon Factory does.
 
Anyway, I could see pure flying existing in a couple of circumstances: First is a form of Castform that responds to a new type of weather... let's say "wind." Second is a pokemon based off of a whirlwind or a cloud.
 
Calder said:
...I wasn't talking to you good sir...I was talking to Golden Heart... <.<

Pure Flying doesn't work because Flying doesn't have a typing against Ghost. The reason Ghosts cannot hit flying types is because the normal subtype. Elec/Flying can be hit because it isn't normal. Flying purely doesn't know what to do when hit by Ghost.
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There's another reason why a pure flying type wouldn't work.
It just doesn't make sense for something to be only flying.
 
Really, only way I can see a pure flying type would be a gust of wind Pokemon. Anything but that, would fall into another category based on its looks.
 
Calder said:
Pure Flying doesn't work because Flying doesn't have a typing against Ghost. The reason Ghosts cannot hit flying types is because the normal subtype. Elec/Flying can be hit because it isn't normal. Flying purely doesn't know what to do when hit by Ghost.
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I'm not sure if you were being serious, but by this same logic pure-normal type would confuse the game if hit by a ground move, since normal/flying wouldn't be hit... As a type, flying has a complete compliment of weaknesses and resistances, just like any other.

The reason there are so many normal/flying Pokemon is that they are based off birds, which are relatively "normal" compared to other Pokemon unless they have a specific elemental connection (e.g. Wingull and water). A flying type doesn't have to be a bird or a bug, or even something with wings; Drifloon and Drifblim could have worked equally well as pure flying as they do as ghost/flying. I think any non-animal thing that flies would be a good candidate for pure-flying, whether that be a kite, a cloud, or just a gust of wind.
 
Jerme said:
i think rock type should NOT be super effective to bugs..i mean a lot of bugs live under rocks so yea
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Water kills bugs, dont you think Water should be supereffective against Bug?
The Pokemon Factory Pokemon you showed us... eww. I think we've already decided that a Light type would be a 'good' type because Electric types already show luminescence, and thats just what you showed us. Please, I dont want to hear the debate over what the Light type would represent... It's a "Good" type.
 
ElectricScyther said:
Water kills bugs, dont you think Water should be supereffective against Bug?
The Pokemon Factory Pokemon you showed us... eww. I think we've already decided that a Light type would be a 'good' type because Electric types already show luminescence, and thats just what you showed us. Please, I dont want to hear the debate over what the Light type would represent... It's a "Good" type.
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fighting type in japanese stands for the good type which is why dark is weak against it.

water is capable of killing everything. anyone and any pokemon could technically drown in water, but its not a definite thing. if i dump water on fire, that fire is goin out, if i dump water on a bug, it can still get up and walk around.
 
I think Ice should be super effective against bug and rock.

The cold and ice causes bugs to migrate/go underground because they can't adapt to the cold.

The cold and ice also causes rock to be eroded. Do you not see valleys carved by glaciers of ice?

Maybe the main reson they didn't make these super effective is because of balancing issues. If ice was super-effective on 6 types, then ice types would get overpowered. I can see that.
 
Crobat said:
fighting type in japanese stands for the good type which is why dark is weak against it.
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Actually not true. Fighting type is "kakutou" (かくとう).

Rikaichan Dictionary said:
挌闘 かくとう
(n,vs) hand-to-hand fighting; grappling; scuffling;
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It's just that people have given it the connotation of "clean fighting." It just goes with what I said... oh... 15 pages ago. When Game Freak says something is "official," fans warp their own reality to explain away why it's true. When other fans suggest hypothetical new types, people jump down their throats to show them that they're ridiculous, whether or not their logic makes more sense than Game Freak's.

This discussion of ice and water could be exhibit B (exhibit A was "dark" and "fighting"). In real life, water could drown anything and fire could melt anything (even rocks). Ice could carve out valleys, and rocks would be impervious to fists. The type matchups are the way they are in order to balance things.
 
ElectricScyther said:
Water kills bugs, dont you think Water should be supereffective against Bug?
The Pokemon Factory Pokemon you showed us... eww. I think we've already decided that a Light type would be a 'good' type because Electric types already show luminescence, and thats just what you showed us. Please, I dont want to hear the debate over what the Light type would represent... It's a "Good" type.
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ha that was just a joke i just randomly found it...im in no favor of a light type

and a lot of real bugs live in water. mosquitos, spiders, snails

and because of rock weakness bugs get crushed to easily most are bug/flying

and there are pokemon that can be pure flying, kecleon, arceus
 
@ Twilight: Only way to get a pure flying-type.

So obviously flying type can be hit by ghost or at least it knows what it's hit by.

EDIT: Confirmed. Arceus equipped with 'Sky Plate' is hit by Ghost-type moves with 1x effectiveness.

I don't see why there couldn't be more pure flying types. I think giving normal to the birds was a bad idea, but that's Game Freaks call not mine.
 
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I, for one, believe, the current system does need some work, a level 80 (i'm not even going max level here) Mighthyena with Earthquake, Crunch, and any other moves, has no problems crushing an entire team, even ten levels higher, by itself, and there needs to be a real counter to the Dragon types out there, with ice as their only weakness, they get far too much leeway as it is. A light type would be WELL deserved, and having well thought out weaknesses would be part of the process.
 
I would appreciate not getting uber spammed here. Yes, some of you have made excellent points about why your type DOES indeed make sense.
Others have not however, creating my discomfort.

Almost all the posts with a debate for type seem to imply running into the type chart and saying, hmm, what needs a check here. Poison, Steel, Dragon, etc.

I don't quite understand why you think that these types need more weaknesses, beyond the fact that you're ONLY looking at basic type matchups. In this case, I plead that you take a trip to Smogon and read through the Stragety Dex. There is a counter for each of the Pokemon of each type, more so for those of the more powerful types and breeds.


And light type.. Just doesn't make a lot of sense to me...
Instead of HOW it would exsist.. Can someone explain, why it SHOULD exsist? Thank you.
 
I don't think there should be any more new types.
Light would be nice but its pretty close to electric (although it could be more like a support type... for instance a white mage in Final Fantasy games)
 
I don't think anyone would like a 'Light' type; as it represents good, and would be pwned by all the other Pokémon types.

I don't think there should be any new types, either.
 
Yo, I'm simply confused as to why some of you guys are against/can't understand a pure flying type pokemon. Did you forget that the flying type is simply another type with set weaknesses and strengths. The fact that it gets paired up often with the normal type has no bearing on how it reacts separately. A ghost attack is neutral against a flying type....
 
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