NSMBW outsells MW2

[processr]

Nintendo has tricked a generation of gamers into thinking it's been making new games, so what's your point?

This. Their big three series, as it were, are Mario, Zelda and Pokémon, and pretty much every game in the series has been a slight variation upon the last game, if that. And even then, the individual series pretty much boil down to the same, basic components. The same business practice extends into peripheral sales too - the Wii Motion Plus is what the Wii Remote should have been in the first place, and yet here in the UK you need to pay £25 (US$40, €28.50) for the privilege. Oh, and the Wii Remote itself is £30 (US$48.50, €34). Not only are Nintendo selling people the same products over and over again, they're also charging extortionate prices while they do it.

Neither NSMBW nor MW2 can claim to be particularly innovative - as Fox has said, NSMBW is essentially a port of the DS game, and MW2 is, from what I have heard, no great departure from COD4. Neither series particularly interests me - I've been bored of the Mario series since Super Mario Land on the original Game Boy, and FPS games don't float my boat (I'm certainly not a part of the stereotypical fratboy demographic that Call of Duty supposedly has cornered). But frankly, you can't get away from MW2, at least over here in the UK. There are probably about nine to nine and a half million gamers in the UK that are a part of MW2's target demographic (8.8 million in a BBC survey from 2005 - a reasonable estimate would to say 9.5 million, perhaps, given the rise in gaming since then and the increasing population, perhaps even more), meaning that about one in eight gamers (probably more like one in nine or ten when you factor in other age groups buying MW2) bought MW2 on release date alone. A further ~600,000 bought the game in the rest of the week, and it then stayed top of the sales charts for nine straight weeks - it was only just knocked off the top spot last week. I'd estimate that around one in six UK gamers have MW2, most of whom are concentrated around people my age.Essentially, I can't go a single day at school without hearing about MW2 in some way, shape or form.

I can't take seriously any claims that NSMBW is outselling MW2. It came in at #3 on the UK charts, and never rose above that position, staying put the week after release but steadily falling since then. Meanwhile, as mentioned, MW2 has only just been knocked off top spot (ironically by a Wii game - Just Dance). In the US, MW2 had 4.2 million sales in November '09, while NSMBW couldn't even reach that figure by the new year - 4 million. I'd be interested to know what NSMBW has taken in revenue - MW2 has taken over $1 billion. Somehow I doubt NSMBW will have reached that figure.

 

[digi-kun]

I can't take seriously any claims that NSMBW is outselling MW2. It came in at #3 on the UK charts, and never rose above that position, staying put the week after release but steadily falling since then. Meanwhile, as mentioned, MW2 has only just been knocked off top spot (ironically by a Wii game - Just Dance). In the US, MW2 had 4.2 million sales in November '09, while NSMBW couldn't even reach that figure by the new year - 4 million. I'd be interested to know what NSMBW has taken in revenue - MW2 has taken over $1 billion. Somehow I doubt NSMBW will have reached that figure.

Charging $10 over normal for the game plus having "Special Edition" versions (at $80 and $150 respectively) does a lot as far as revenue goes you know :/
As far as copies sold, on the other hand, I think it's a bit more believable. Nintendo titles have a tendency of doing better in long run over most other games that tend to spike, and then die down afterward. Heck, in a discussion article I saw (too lazy/tired to find) people were predicting MW2 overkills NSMBW on starting days, while NSMBW wins in the long run (now how long that long run is, is a different question). Though I still don't think 2-3 months is quite that yet, I still think NSMBW will outsell MW2 eventually. That's unless IW suddenly decides to cater to the PC audience and (re)make the PC version with dedicated server support. Then NSMBW is probably doomed XD (/me PC Gamer)

Being said, typing this has made me dislike the horribly long title for NSMBW (that and it almost looks like it says NSFW)

 

[processr]

Charging $10 over normal for the game plus having "Special Edition" versions (at $80 and $150 respectively) does a lot as far as revenue goes you know :/

True, true. MW2 is about £10 more over here anyway, though I haven't seen any special editions over here. =/

Being said, typing this has made me dislike the horribly long title for NSMBW (that and it almost looks like it says NSFW)

Ugh, inorite. I shudder to think how my previous post would have looked if I'd written out every abbreviation in full. >>

 

[Fox♠]

True, true. MW2 is about £10 more over here anyway, though I haven't seen any special editions over here. =/



Ugh, inorite. I shudder to think how my previous post would have looked if I'd written out every abbreviation in full. >>

In most places MW2 is between £40 -£45. That's only really a fiver over the normal retail price. People are also forgetting that a LOT of UK retailers done "£30 on the launch day" offers, alongside GAME and gamstation running "mw2 half price if you trade in _______" (I got my mw2 for £26 from sainsbury's, and i know morrisons were doing it for £26 as well)

 

[Avatar]

That's unless IW suddenly decides to cater to the PC audience and (re)make the PC version with dedicated server support.

Won't ever happen. Activision won't be able to extort money out of PC gamers for map packs that way.

 

[Calder]

and we'll let MW 2 be the best selling game, from what have heard the first MW is better..If you excuse me metriod awaits me...

I heard Mario was better then MW2

 

[Niprop]

Pro tip: NEVER try and compare a third party game that is ported onto multiple consoles to a first party game that's not only on an entirely different genre, but is also meant to be a major pillar for the console it's on. Also, a bit off topic, but don't you think that Activision is getting a bit over the top with "Special Editions" of the game?

 

[Shadow]

The first mw had a somewhat better community, that's about it. I dunno it just seems a bit insulting that a game that cost well into the millions to make and took over 2 years is even considered to be on par with a DS port that has a few added levels.

Let's forget the story, graphics, gameplay, music, characters etc.
I understand you're a Nintendo fan and 4 of the 5 above factors are probably foreign to you (the one that i'll give nintendo is music) but don't go knocking a game you clearly haven't played.

Hrm... What is going on here?

But, as someone just said, you can't really compare the sales of a popular game on one console to the sales of an equally popular game that's on multiple consoles (especially including PC) as the latter will always win due to more people having access to it. Selling PC games is easy mode, almost everyone has a computer; not everyone has a Wii or PS3 or 360.

Nintendo has tricked a generation of gamers into thinking it's been making new games, so what's your point?

And other companies don't? If you're claiming Super Mario Galaxy and Mario 64 are the same game, then what are Modern Warfare 2 and Modern Warfare? Identical twins.

 

[Fox♠]

Hrm... What is going on here?

But, as someone just said, you can't really compare the sales of a popular game on one console to the sales of an equally popular game that's on multiple consoles (especially including PC) as the latter will always win due to more people having access to it. Selling PC games is easy mode, almost everyone has a computer; not everyone has a Wii or PS3 or 360.



And other companies don't? If you're claiming Super Mario Galaxy and Mario 64 are the same game, then what are Modern Warfare 2 and Modern Warfare? Identical twins.

But I have played NSMBW, whereas some of the people attacking MW2 have clearly not played it.

And in regards to more people owning PCs over consoles, it's a moot point. The bulk of MW2's sales are on the 360, with another large percentage on PS3. PC versions havnt sold as well. It's also noteworthy that a Wii is now basically a household item like a computer. I'm sure there is one in most PC members homes.

And i'm sure Marionette wasn't referring to SMG and SM64, but much more towards games like Mario party, Wii fit +, mario Kart, <insert brand here> health game etc etc.

 

[Shadow]

And i'm sure Marionette wasn't referring to SMG and SM64, but much more towards games like Mario party, Wii fit +, mario Kart, <insert brand here> health game etc etc.

The point still stands. The Mario Karts or Mario Partys are sequels of one another (Wii Fit Plus is more of an expansion and they don't even charge full price for it like most expansions). If saying that Super Mario Kart and Mario Kart Wii are the same games, then where does that leave MW2 compared to MW? The same game with new levels (same changes between Mario Karts), new weapons (new items and karts in Mario Karts), new multi-player features (online in MKW and tournaments). The difference is that they only bother with one Mario Kart per console, but this is the 4th Call of Duty game on the latest generation of consoles (CoD3, CoD4, CoD WaW, CoD MW2).

You can't accuse Nintendo solely of coming out with the same game over and over again. Most companies are guilty of that.

 

[Fox♠]

The point still stands. The Mario Karts or Mario Partys are sequels of one another (Wii Fit Plus is more of an expansion and they don't even charge full price for it like most expansions). If saying that Super Mario Kart and Mario Kart Wii are the same games, then where does that leave MW2 compared to MW? The same game with new levels (same changes between Mario Karts), new weapons (new items and karts in Mario Karts), new multi-player features (online in MKW and tournaments). The difference is that they only bother with one Mario Kart per console, but this is the 4th Call of Duty game on the latest generation of consoles (CoD3, CoD4, CoD WaW, CoD MW2).

You can't accuse Nintendo solely of coming out with the same game over and over again. Most companies are guilty of that.

Now you're comparing lemons with tomatoes.
Each CoD game had a different story or setting. MW2 being a direct sequel to MW following on a story. It wasn;t a mismatch cast of characters thrown together at the annual Nintendo milk fest and released as a party game.

 

[Klippy]

No more arguing. Tired of these threads always getting out of hand even when I think they might be able to be handled maturely.

Games aren't important enough to argue over. Who cares if MW2 is better than NSMBW or vise-versa. Enjoy the games you want to enjoy.

Otherwise, quiet thy orifices.