[OLD] Trade Corner Daily Chit-Chat

[Perriechu]

Cute. It's Naive though? D; I'm not very knowledgeable about Pikachu sets... does it use a Naive nature?

 

[Tsvet]

Could someone CMT and see if I'm asking too much on my Want list? :\
I don't know what is happening :(

 

[PokéSwimmer]

Cute. It's Naive though? D; I'm not very knowledgeable about Pikachu sets... does it use a Naive nature?

Naive is so it can go mixed. While most Pikachu I've seen out there run Hasty, I chose to use Naive to give Pikachu a chance to survive against priority moves. The lowered special defense doesn't matter much since Pikachu will probably get OHKOed by pretty much anything anyway. Worthwhile tradeoff imo.
I also looked on Smogon and pretty much all of the sets run either Timid or Naive.

Still trying to decide a nickname and redis. rights though...

Could someone CMT and see if I'm asking too much on my Want list? :\
I don't know what is happening :(

Probably because recently, the trade corner has been leaning more toward casual players/traders rather than competitive battlers/RNG breeders. It's surprising, really. Given the ease of RNGing in BW, I was expecting to see a huge influx of RNG shops. I did check out your thread though and saw some stuff I liked, perhaps I'll stop by soon :D.

 

[Perriechu]

Naive is so it can go mixed. While most Pikachu I've seen out there run Hasty, I chose to use Naive to give Pikachu a chance to survive against priority moves. The lowered special defense doesn't matter much since Pikachu will probably get OHKOed by pretty much anything anyway. Worthwhile tradeoff imo.
I also looked on Smogon and pretty much all of the sets run either Timid or Naive.

Still trying to decide a nickname and redis. rights though...

Well I usually give my Egg move, specific Hidden Power, Shiny Pokemon either Semi or Non since they're so nom. :3

oic.

 

[Tsvet]

Hmm... something is bizarre here.
The thing is: I borrowed a female Torchic with DW and bred another female Torchic with DW ability.
Why the first one can enter random online battle and mine (UT, lv 1, just bred) can't? :\

[no species or item clause broken on my team]

 

[johnny18]

Hmm... something is bizarre here.
The thing is: I borrowed a female Torchic with DW and bred another female Torchic with DW ability.
Why the first one can enter random online battle and mine (UT, lv 1, just bred) can't? :\

[no species or item clause broken on my team]

There is no female torchic. The DW torchic is given as only male.

 

[Tsvet]

I just love to be lied to.
Bazinga.
So... I'll delete plenty of pokemons now ._.'

Where can I get a list to check what I got is a hack or not? ._.

 

[TwilightBlade]

@Tsvet: Here's some basic information about discerning hacks (mostly copied from Trade Rules). Grouped in a spoiler:

Spoiler:

→ Regarding Event Pokémon...
Only trade official Event Pokémon, as indicated by: Bulbapedia, Pokemon Secure or Serebii; if the Pokemon is not on the list, it's a hacked fan event.

- The following Events are hacked: Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect, Pre-released events, and Korean Events in Gen 4 (Transferred to Gen 5 is acceptable)

- The following shiny Pokémon are prohibited: 10 ANIV Events, non-preset shiny NDS Wondercard Events, MYSTRY Mew, Ageto Celebi, WISHMKR Jirachi, Negai Boshi Jirachi, Arceus, Victini, Castelia City Zorua, Lostlorn Zoroark, Reshiram, Zekrom

- The following Dream World Pokemon are prohibited: If the Pokemon is not on this list, it is not released yet via Dream World!
(Check the column: Hidden Ability Breedable? as if it's a male-only event, it's not breedable, thus all offspring are hacked).

[a id]hack[/a id]Hacked Pokémon - We automatically define Hacked Pokémon as the following:

• Pokémon generated and/or edited via an external device (PokeSav, Pokegen, Action Replay, etc)
• Pokémon with ridiculously high stats (or over 510 EVs)
• Pokémon with an illegal location (e.g. Pokemon Cartoon, Mystery Zone)
• Pokémon with an ID number less than 00001 or higher than 65535 (some RNG abusers have passed this, so examine the owner/OT)
• Pokémon with date Jan. 0, 2000
• Japanese Pokémon with over 5 characters in the name or in the OT
• Any Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect
• Any shiny Arceus, Victini, Reshiram, Zekrom
• Any Celebi, Jirachi, or Arceus without an Event OT
• Shiny NDS Wondercard Events, unless preset as always shiny (e.g. Crown Raikou)
• Shiny GBA events (exception: Eggs, Berry Fix Zigzagoon)
• Non-event Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Raikou, Entei, and Suicune with location Hoenn
• Fan Made Events and Pre-released/Test/Demo Events
• Korean Event Pokemon in Gen 4 (as Korean games cannot trade to other region games; this is fixed in Gen 5)
• Gen 3&4 Legendary Pokémon with an illegal IV/Nature combination
• Gen 3 (excluding Emerald) Roaming legends with high IVs
• Anything downloaded to your game directly from Pokecheck
• Flashcarts/emulators are allowed in Shiny Hunter Club, Challenges, Emulation etc but they're not trading those Pokemon; it's debatable, but currently they're banned.

@Traders: What would you guys like to see in Trade Corner? Or would you rather prefer a separate thread to discuss revamp? :P

 

[Perriechu]

Separate thread to discuss. B) Gogogogo.

 

[Alternative]

The real opinion is whether I should re open some sort of trade shop again or not with mah sexy egg mons, which I know you all love. Then I can get some nice Pokemon out of it as well as helping others out.

 

[Perriechu]

You should open up a shop of hot RNG mons. B) All the cool kids are doing it.

 

[Alternative]

Uniqueness > coolness imo. :) I'm sure you'd prefer egg moves rather than RNG'd mons anyway, and I can't RNG now/don't wanna C-Gear it.

 

[PokéSwimmer]

Uniqueness > coolness imo. :) I'm sure you'd prefer egg moves rather than RNG'd mons anyway, and I can't RNG now/don't wanna C-Gear it.

Agreed, unique egg moved 'mons are awesome.

Anyway, I realized I still had a bunch of Gen IV Wonder Cards left on various games (FAL10 Mew, Shiny Dogs, and Celebi). So I tried to learn Gen IV abuse and failed miserably (delay sucks). I'll probably try again later if I have more time. There are so many RNGed versions of these guys floating around out there that I'm wondering if it's even worth it. Should I try to learn this or should I just trade for them?

 

[TwilightBlade]

Agreed, unique egg moved 'mons are awesome.

Anyway, I realized I still had a bunch of Gen IV Wonder Cards left on various games (FAL10 Mew, Shiny Dogs, and Celebi). So I tried to learn Gen IV abuse and failed miserably (delay sucks). I'll probably try again later if I have more time. There are so many RNGed versions of these guys floating around out there that I'm wondering if it's even worth it. Should I try to learn this or should I just trade for them?

Yes to Celebi, maybe to Mew, no to beasts. The versions floating around may be injected wondercards. Hard to tell if they are or not, so you do some justice, okies?

 

[Alternative]

Speaking of 4th gen wondercards, I've still got the last two, I think it's Suicune and Entei left to abuse. I never got around to it, so I may do it soon if I can snag my sister's DSi and get them then and trade them.

 

[RoseBlade]

Not sure if this would be the right place to put this but I will give it a shot.

If I use instant egg and fast egg hatch, where the DC man gets me an egg instantly and where the steps to hatch said egg is lower...extremely so, would the resulting pokemon be considered a hack?

 

[Perriechu]

Not sure if this would be the right place to put this but I will give it a shot.

If I use instant egg and fast egg hatch, where the DC man gets me an egg instantly and where the steps to hatch said egg is lower...extremely so, would the resulting pokemon be considered a hack?

IIRC. It's considered legit. A lot of people do it. C:

 

[RoseBlade]

Cool.

Anyway. Has anyone else tried getting a flawless poke without RNG? I am looking for tips on how to finish off. I have two of the same poke, Torchic as the case would be, male female and both have the equivalent of a flawless, as in they have perfect IV's together. Thing is I cannot get a resulting flawless poke. Any suggestions.

Also if this is not the place to discuss this can someone point me in the right direction? I do appreciate the help.

 

[Alternative]

When it comes to getting flawless Pokemon without use of RNG methods, it can be very difficult to get it. As a max, only three IVs from both parents will be passed down to the child, meaning the IVs passed down from your two Torchic will only be 3/12 passed down. You can be lucky to have all the good ones passed down, and then the rest of it is up to luck.

 

[PokéSwimmer]

Yes to Celebi, maybe to Mew, no to beasts. The versions floating around may be injected wondercards. Hard to tell if they are or not, so you do some justice, okies?

I'm probably going to skip out on the Mew, since I really want to restart Soul Silver and I don't have time to figure out what I'm doing wrong with Gen IV abuse at the moment. Unless, of course, unused wonder cards remain usable when you restart your game (do they?).
As for the Celebi (I think I have two Celebi Wonder Cards), which natures should I go for? (The "nature is always random" thing is probably going to be pretty frustrating...)

Cool.

Anyway. Has anyone else tried getting a flawless poke without RNG? I am looking for tips on how to finish off. I have two of the same poke, Torchic as the case would be, male female and both have the equivalent of a flawless, as in they have perfect IV's together. Thing is I cannot get a resulting flawless poke. Any suggestions.

Also if this is not the place to discuss this can someone point me in the right direction? I do appreciate the help.

It is highly unlikely. If you have an original DS or a DS lite, you'd be better off learning how to RNG. It's pretty easy in Gen V.