OU Stall Team built for Shoddy

[Lalapizzame]

Seeing Anti's rather liking of stalling, I decided to put my stalling skills to the test with this team. Sadly, most of the time my connection on Shoddy gets a reset before the match I'm using this team with is done. Shame, really.

~The Team:

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Gliscor@Leftovers
Pressure
Careful
252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Speed
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Stealth Rock
Roost
Heracross and Lucario counter. Earthquake deals with the latter while Aerial Ace will kill off the former. Stealth Rock is rather automatic on a Stall team while Roost makes it live a lot longer then it would without it.

Changes for Gliscor:

Forretress@Shed Shell
Sturdy
Relaxed
252 HP / 72 Atk / 184 Def
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Toxic Spikes
Rapid Spin

Rapid Spinner. It also serves as my Dragon resist and sets up Spikes.

Changes for Forretress:
~Toxic Spikes was put over Spikes.

Vaporeon@Leftovers
Water Absorb
Bold
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Surf
HP Electric
Wish
Roar

Vappy is here to be my Gyara and MixApe counter and also provides Wish support for Roserade. Roar provides a PHazer and also prevents CroCune from beating me. HP Electric is for Gyarados.

Changes for Vaporeon:
~Roar was put over Ice Beam.

Spiritomb@Leftovers
Pressure
Careful / Calm
252 HP / 68 Def / 188 SpD
Shadow Ball / Shadow Sneak (If it is this color, it is the move I'm currently using)
Will-O-Wisp
Rest
Sleep Talk

My Azelf, Gengar and Mismagius counter and Status Absorber. Shadow Ball was mainly here for a stable STAB but would have trouble against Calm Minding Mismagius. I didn't really favor Sucker Punch as it had too low PP to work on a RestTalk set, so I decided I might use Shadow Sneak. Shadow Sneak is nice for being able to break Mismagius and its Subs without getting damaged by its Shadow Ball and is quite nice for Gengar and Azelf. Will-O-Wisp cripples Physical Sweepers which this Spiritomb has trouble with. But for now I'm using Shadow Ball.

Changes for Spiritomb:

Blissey@Leftovers
Natural Cure
Calm
252 Def / 40 SpA / 216 SpD
Flamethrower
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Toxic

My Special Wall. Flamethrower is quite nice for making those Lucarios and Heracross not get a free switch-in if they expect Toxic. Softboiled is, again, for recovery. Toxic is quite nice for beating down things with no recovery such as Swampert after a while. Seismic Toss beats Calm Mind Raikou and Heatran.

Changes for Blissey:

Tangrowth@Leftovers
Pressure
Relaxed
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Sleep Powder
Knock Off
Power Whip
Hidden Power Ice

Garchomp counter. Sleep Powder will make things unable to move while Power Whip is for STAB and does a bit of damage to Gyarados. Knock Off can be very useful.

Changes for Tangrowth:

 

[Dark Azelf]

Roserade@Leftovers
Natural Cure
Timid
252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Speed
Grass Knot
Ice Fang
Roar
Slack Off

*looks at that ^*

*looks at avatar*

*Leaves thread*


LOL, two of the most messed up things ive ever seen XD




Anyways, id say Ice Fang >> SR here on Gliscor, that way SD chomp wont be so problematic. Then you can put SR on Forry if you still want it.

 

[mystikal42012]

Vappy needs some more sp.att EV's.
I think you should use Ice fang on Gliscor. I believe it still 2 or 3Ko's Hera. Consider Hyper Cutter also.

 

[Anti]

Tentacruel is a better toxic spiker than Roserade, who is just going to leave you with a 6 vs. 5 scenario. It over Roserade would give you a better option against MixMence. It also frees up Forretress some. I don't really get why Forretress isn't carrying Toxic Spikes itself for that matter. Instead of Ice Fang on Gliscor, who does poorly at handling Garchomp, you could just free up your "toxic spiker" slot entirely and put in something like Tangrowth or Cresselia, both of whom make fabulous Garchomp counters. Both could absorb status which you really need help with.

Not really feeling Resttalk WoW Spiritomb. You will lose to most Gengars and Azelfs, which is one of Spiritomb's best traits (beating the two). IMO Taunt and Pain Split >>> Resttalk would help, especially since you have wish support. Sucker Punch over Shadow Ball also helps you be a more reliable counter to Azelf, Mismagius, and Gengar.

Also watch out for DDtar. It will really rape Gliscor and proceed to sweep your team in most cases. Same with Garchomp, thoguh I mentioned that above.

Also I should never see "useful" and "Rapid Spinner" in the same sentence :P

EDIT: You do actually need one on this case though! Should have mentioned that.

Also Ice Fang isn't even close to a 2HKO or even 3HKO on Heracross.

There was something else I was going to say, but my memory...:(

 

[Lalapizzame]

Tentacruel is a better toxic spiker than Roserade, who is just going to leave you with a 6 vs. 5 scenario. It over Roserade would give you a better option against MixMence. It also frees up Forretress some. I don't really get why Forretress isn't carrying Toxic Spikes itself for that matter. Instead of Ice Fang on Gliscor, who does poorly at handling Garchomp, you could just free up your "toxic spiker" slot entirely and put in something like Tangrowth or Cresselia, both of whom make fabulous Garchomp counters. Both could absorb status which you really need help with.

Not really feeling Resttalk WoW Spiritomb. You will lose to most Gengars and Azelfs, which is one of Spiritomb's best traits (beating the two). IMO Taunt and Pain Split >>> Resttalk would help, especially since you have wish support. Sucker Punch over Shadow Ball also helps you be a more reliable counter to Azelf, Mismagius, and Gengar.

Also watch out for DDtar. It will really rape Gliscor and proceed to sweep your team in most cases. Same with Garchomp, thoguh I mentioned that above.

Also I should never see "useful" and "Rapid Spinner" in the same sentence :P

EDIT: You do actually need one on this case though! Should have mentioned that.

Also Ice Fang isn't even close to a 2HKO or even 3HKO on Heracross.

There was something else I was going to say, but my memory...:(

I have taken your advice and put Tangrowth into my team and made Tomb into a lead.

 

[Anti]

stall teams... -_-

filler filler

=/

Anyways...

Protect on Vaporeon...eh. Yeah it's decent for toxistalling or whatever, but it rarely comes in handy. IMO Ice Beam (for mixmence especially, and garchomp backup) or BP (to pass Wishes to anything without them taking damage) would be a huge plus for this team. I'd go IB since MixMence kinda rapes this team. Vaporeon can't survive many Draco Meteors but it's better than anything else you've got.

 

[Archer]

=/

Anyways...

Protect on Vaporeon...eh. Yeah it's decent for toxistalling or whatever, but it rarely comes in handy. IMO Ice Beam (for mixmence especially, and garchomp backup) or BP (to pass Wishes to anything without them taking damage) would be a huge plus for this team. I'd go IB since MixMence kinda rapes this team. Vaporeon can't survive many Draco Meteors but it's better than anything else you've got.

I would like Haze on there, as CMCune hurts this team.

 

[mystikal42012]

CMCune owns a lot of teams, there's no need for haze. Vappy takes out DDance Mence, and Tangrowth beats DDance tar.

Edit: Whoops, your right about Ice Fang Anit Pop.