PlatinumDude
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I'd go Lefties over Air Balloon on Heatran, as it lacks recovery outside of Leftovers; Ground moves can be dealt with by switching to a teammate who resists/is immune to them. 248 HP is also used for Heatran as opposed to 252, as this makes it take less damage from Stealth Rock.
Why Flying Press? I don't see it accomplishing anything that High Jump Kick can't:
-Steel Pokemon in general are neutral to the move, when they can be hit super effectively by High Jump Kick
-hilariously, the occasional Magnezone resists it.
-Flying Press is significantly weaker than High Jump Kick. Examples:
+2 252+ Atk Hawlucha Flying Press vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 237-279 (66.2 - 77.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Hawlucha High Jump Kick vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 384-453 (107.2 - 126.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 Flying Press can't significantly damage anything, while High Jump Kick outright nukes the target. The miss chance from High Jump Kick is annoying, yes, but Hawlucha needs all the power it can get, given that 92 Attack isn't really the best stat to attack with. Also, U-turn makes Hawlucha waste away its Unburden boost. See, after Unburden activates, Hawlucha is basically forced to stay in battle; if it switches out, it loses the Unburden boost for the rest of the match, making U-turn a bad option. Swords Dance > U-turn, as the extra power could be helpful:
-Swords Dance
-High Jump Kick
-Acrobatics
-Sky Attack
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 8 HP/252 Atk/248 Spe
Item: Power Herb
Ability: Unburden
I don't think Stockpile is worth it, as this means that something like Garchomp can set up alongside Cradily and eventually overpower it with +4 or +6 Attack. Another support option would be better, IMO, like Stealth Rock or Toxic, in case Heatran goes down.
Now that Aegislash is gone, Mega Gardevoir doesn't really need Shadow Ball anymore. Focus Blast is the better option for dealing with Steel Pokemon better. 24 Def/232 SAtk/252 Spe also lets Mega Gardevoir take 2 Psyshocks from Latios.
Regarding Snorlax, I agree that Heavy Slam should go; it doesn't do anything noteworthy:
-Return/Body Slam
-Earthquake
-Crunch/Fire Punch
-Self-Destruct (to go out with a bang once you feel Snorlax has done its job)
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/252 SDef/4 Spe
Item: Assault Vest
Ability: Thick Fat
Why Flying Press? I don't see it accomplishing anything that High Jump Kick can't:
-Steel Pokemon in general are neutral to the move, when they can be hit super effectively by High Jump Kick
-hilariously, the occasional Magnezone resists it.
-Flying Press is significantly weaker than High Jump Kick. Examples:
+2 252+ Atk Hawlucha Flying Press vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 237-279 (66.2 - 77.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Hawlucha High Jump Kick vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 384-453 (107.2 - 126.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 Flying Press can't significantly damage anything, while High Jump Kick outright nukes the target. The miss chance from High Jump Kick is annoying, yes, but Hawlucha needs all the power it can get, given that 92 Attack isn't really the best stat to attack with. Also, U-turn makes Hawlucha waste away its Unburden boost. See, after Unburden activates, Hawlucha is basically forced to stay in battle; if it switches out, it loses the Unburden boost for the rest of the match, making U-turn a bad option. Swords Dance > U-turn, as the extra power could be helpful:
-Swords Dance
-High Jump Kick
-Acrobatics
-Sky Attack
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 8 HP/252 Atk/248 Spe
Item: Power Herb
Ability: Unburden
I don't think Stockpile is worth it, as this means that something like Garchomp can set up alongside Cradily and eventually overpower it with +4 or +6 Attack. Another support option would be better, IMO, like Stealth Rock or Toxic, in case Heatran goes down.
Now that Aegislash is gone, Mega Gardevoir doesn't really need Shadow Ball anymore. Focus Blast is the better option for dealing with Steel Pokemon better. 24 Def/232 SAtk/252 Spe also lets Mega Gardevoir take 2 Psyshocks from Latios.
Regarding Snorlax, I agree that Heavy Slam should go; it doesn't do anything noteworthy:
-Return/Body Slam
-Earthquake
-Crunch/Fire Punch
-Self-Destruct (to go out with a bang once you feel Snorlax has done its job)
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/252 SDef/4 Spe
Item: Assault Vest
Ability: Thick Fat