Overdone Legendaries

[Spikey-Eared Pichu]

Anyone besides me notice that with each new generation, the legendaries become more overdone?

I loved the Gen 1 and 2 Legends because they were relatively simple, but still could be recognized as legendary. But Gens 3 and 4 have made Legendary Pokemon look too...over-the-top. Like they need to prove that they're legendary by making them bigger and more intricate in design.

 

[DGexe]

... In a sense, I have started to notice that-- and notice it more now that you mention it. On the other end of things, it doesn't really bother me. ... In fact, I rather like Dialga and Arceus' designs, as "whoahello!" as they and their fellow legendaries are.

 

[Ayselipera]

The only legendary pokemon designs who bother me would be the lake trio and the golems. The problem isn't that they are overdone, but that they look too much alike.

I do see what you're saying though, but that hasn't bothered me too much. The only thing that gets on my nerves is how many there are.

 

[Wings Don't Cry]

I don't really mind, except for lake trio and golems like Ayselipera. Except for Azelf he looks fine. The Lake trio doesn't really look the same but Uxie looks like some blind thing with a giant brain that couldn't fit into its head so it bursted out. For Mesprit I can't really say what's wrong with it, I don't know myself but looking at it just gives me a bad impression of it.

I get what you mean but I think you kinda have to make some of them look like they're legendary. Groudon raised the land and moves continents of course it's gonna be big, same with Kyogre and Rayquaza. The dragon trio just look big, I have to agree with that, they look really cool well 2 out of 3 of them do but they're just to massive. They're bigger than the alpha Pokemon.

 

[Zeta Sukuna]

Yes, I have noticed that they have gotten bigger and more extravagant. Is it a bad thing? Yes and no. Let me explain. Prepare for an argument that probably makes no sense, given that I'm writing at 2 AM.

It is bad, because it can get too... out there, you know? If it's too far out there, then it will look awkward. Let's look at Regigigas. It's an awesome pokemon, but it just looks like someone was high making it. I'm sorry if you like the design, and personally, I do too, but it just looks like someone was high making that thing, and that can turn a lot of people off, especially with the monsters becoming more out there, and even some become more complex, and it just doesn't look right.

But it is good, because they're allowing themselves branch out, rather then having animals with superpowers, or sentient sludge, or item spheres that came to life by being shocked. Variation is key, and if they continued to make pokemon designs like they did, then they'd start looking the same. There may be thousands of animals and legends, but they would eventually run together.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, no it does. Regis and Sprites are two good examples. Is it bad? Not necessarily. It shows that these species are closely related. Mesprit, Azelf, and Uxie are closely related to each other, so they appear similar, same with Regice, Regirock, and Registeel. But that's the only case where it would be acceptable.

Personally, I like the new legends, sans Manaphy, and to an extent Phione, because they remind me of fetuses for some reason. Anyway, I believe that they did it so that people could see them as more... grande and amazing, larger then life, and more advanced, if you will, but a lot of people don't like them. Oh well, it's your decision, your own taste, you know?

I am sorry for putting you through that, but if it turns out to be good, then I retract my apology, I guess.

 

[Jayster23]

1st and 2nd generation Legendary are legendary pokemon you can tell they are legendary.

With the 3rd and 4th gen Only the major three look like legendaries. Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza look fine to me. They are ones that look legendary. The Dragon Trio look like legends the Regi's look like over done bricks and the Psychic trio are a meh.

I think if Nintendo make a 5th Gen they should only have a major three. If they are so legendary how come they is like 50 legends?

 

[Dawn Rules]

I think the legendaries are overdone cuz the first and second gens were cool but the third and fouth gens are too much maybe the 3 legendaries and thats about it you dont need 10 legendaries thats too much i think stick to the Trio in the storyline and maybe one other legendary.

 

[♣Gawain♣]

All I can say is that the designs of the 1st gen is quite simple, but it stands out. The design's getting a bit complicated when it comes to the 2nd, and the 3rd's the best. Especially what they've done with the Trio. I could say the 4th's a bit stand out, but it is needed because of they're descriptions and abilities.

 

[Idiot!]

I particularly hated the fact that the lake trio share the same typing and basic body colour and shape.

7% of known Pokémon species are legendaries. When it reaches ten percent, I think that's too much. Gen III had what I think is optimum: 5%

 

[naczkens]

i think the legendary pokemon idea was only good i the first two generations
and even in the 2nd gen - G/S/C there was something copied from 1st gen
3 legendary birds - 3 legendary dogs

i think that it would be good to not create any more of legendary pokemon from one simple reason:
it looks only like nintendo have found a good way to earn money from kids that want to play using the strongest of pokemon
because of it i never played any of 4th gen games

 

[Amore]

Uhhh...i'm gonna do a defence for the Lake Trio and the Regis.

They're both TRIOS, so they should look similar.
I will admit the Lake Trio look weird, but.......are you saying Scizor doesn't???a Steel mantis????
Regis, well, they're like 1/3 of the size of Regigigas, which is not "big and brash" or anything like that.

Dialga,Palkia,Giratina and Arceus look good.Cept Giratina's altered form.Is it party centipede, part spider???(too many legs and eyes on its wings)
I think Arceus should be bigger than them three though.


And another thing, technically Mewtwo isn't legendary, it's just one-off, as it's a clone of Mew/Blaine, so you could say it's the only capturable human.
Ho-oh and Lugia....well.....Ho-oh looks too much like an ordinary bird, and it's just a copy of Moltres, but given a better backstory, stats and movesets (honestly, they do look alike). Lugia looks cool thanks to those sort of slashed shapes around the eyes and stuff.

Rayquaza,Kyogre and Groudon are fine.
Lati@s, well....i think as their dex entries imply there're multiple of them, they shouldn't look too special, and they're alike as they come in brother/sister pairs.

Manaphy, is good.So's Shaymin.Phione....pointless.Christ, it'd be better just to give Manaphy a special Ranger and event move, that you can't have when you breed one.

 

[The Red Chain]

-facepalm- ...

I still fail to understand how 'intricate designs' and 'complicated origins' are a bad thing.
I don't see the overdone-ness of them at all, I just see better legendaries. Why stay simplistic? That's just boring, imo.
I don't understand how people can say these legendaries are over-the-top when Mew can learn almost every move and has the DNA of every Pokemon. =/

The only legendary pokemon designs who bother me would be the lake trio and the golems. The problem isn't that they are overdone, but that they look too much alike.

How do 5-6 feet golems and 1 foot sprites look alike? O_o

and even in the 2nd gen - G/S/C there was something copied from 1st gen
3 legendary birds - 3 legendary dogs

Every generation has a trio.. so I don't exactly see where you are coming from.
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[Opposite Day]

How do 5-6 feet golems and 1 foot sprites look alike? O_o
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Oh come on, you know what she meant : P

My opinion: Gen IV gave us the physical/special split - thus the pokemon would no longer need to be based on a special/physical type in order to be both good-looking and actually useful - like the grass-pokemon no longer had to use special attacks if they wanted to use their STABs. In other words, they now had the power to make some physically imposing pokemon they couldn't have made before if they didn't want to mess up the system, kind of like Luxray would have sucked (more) if it had been introduced in the third generation, because it is physically based, yet its STAB is "special". See my point? Now Gamefreak have the ability to make "realistic" pokemon independent of the type, and thus, any legend is more liable to become more imposing. Gah, I don't know if that made any sense at all.

 

[Amore]

I understood you.

And i honestly hope The Red Chain was being sarcastic about the looking-alike bit.

Also, i have a question.Is Lucario a legendary?I mean, it had a more major role in a movie than Pikachu, and you can't get baby Lucarios.Also, there's only one in D/P/Pt.

 

[Meepman]

I don't really mind them being overdone design wise but the concept of the deity pokemon (dialga and palkia) sorta bothers me, because if they can control time and space wouldn't that make them invincible or something? Palkia could just teleport every time you try to hit it and dialga could just go a few seconds back or forward in time to avoid everything.

I understood you.

And i honestly hope The Red Chain was being sarcastic about the looking-alike bit.

Also, i have a question.Is Lucario a legendary?I mean, it had a more major role in a movie than Pikachu, and you can't get baby Lucarios.Also, there's only one in D/P/Pt.

No lucario isn't legendary, and what do you mean you can't get baby lucarios? If you breed with a lucario you get a riolu.

 

[Spikey-Eared Pichu]

Bah to off-topicness =S

Anyways, here are some Pokemon I think aren't too deserving of their status as Legendary, due to their appearances:

-Latios and Latias: Okay, yes, they look cool but why are they legendary? There's nothing legendary about them. Their design doesn't say 'legendary' to me. Moltres and the other birds do, however.

-Regis: I understand that they are part of a triad, with Regigigas being the leader but they don't seem to 'pop' as legendaries for me. I think GameFreak would have been better off making the Regis unique, get once, Pokemon and make Gigas the only legendary one. Besides, based on the anime and manga, the Regis aren't at all unique because multiples of them have been found (Brandon owns three, a seperate three guard the Tree of Beginings, end of story.)

-Manaphy/Phione: What the hell? They don't even look like unique Pokemon, much less Legendary! And what's Manaphy's job anyways? Faring sea Pokemon? Hello, we have Kyogre! And Phione can go die in a 3 in. hole. Their design is too simple, even more so than the Birds!

-Heatran: Living embodiment of volcano equals fail. Why? Entei. Also, the design seems...off and overdone.

-Lake Trio: Don't get me wrong, I understand that every region has to have a trio minority to the trio major which are the coverart Pokemon. But, really? These guys don't even have different types! Plus, they're appearance is too much alike! Even the Regis look somewhat different! The Lake Trio all look like htey could be the same Pokemon wearing a different wig at different times!

 

[Opposite Day]

-Heatran: Living embodiment of volcano equals fail. Why? Entei. Also, the design seems...off and overdone.

Where does it ever say that Entei is the embodiment of volcanoes? Yes, it has the power to control volcanoes, and each time a volcano is formed an Entei pops, but Entei is *not* a living volcano, at least not at the moment. Also, please remind me how Entei can possibly look like a volcano? To me, it looks like a dog with a sea-star stuck at its face, along with random details like chain-rings at its knees. Heatran, on the other hand, not only looks like an evolution of Magcargo, whilst it is ass ugly, it is also quite alike what I would imagine a fire-type legendary would look like. It's not Heatran, but Entei that looks overdone IMO.

EDIT: Manaphy is the bff of any sea-pokemon! Would you like to hang out with a leviathan that would probably kill you if you woke him up? : D

 

[Spikey-Eared Pichu]

Check Bulbapedia for an accurate description to Entei's design.

And, yes, I loff my Kyogre <3 I'd feed it Manaphy for a snack, hahahah.

 

[iLaxbe!]

Sorry to interrupt, but here is my opinion.

By LEGENDARY I learned Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Mewtwo, Mew. Every legendary Pokémon after them must follow a pattern, or they will be no longer Pokémon, just Digimon-like strong monsters.

I totally agree with the first post of Notch-Eared Pichu. The new art staff that joined in Ruby Sapphire were too far in the word "Advance". They are surely overdone, and at first some may have not liked them. But now this is all we can get. The brand is still a success, so it must have worked. Although I don't believe the next generation will be different from the Groudon-Dialga style, i hope for more simple designs.

 

[Opposite Day]

Entei is a lion-like creature that bears resemblance to a Mastiff. It is covered in brown fur with a long, thick mane covering its neck. It has gray plates surrounding the cape that makes it look as if smoke is coming out of a crater on its back, and a plate beneath the cream belly fur on its chest. Entei has white paws with apparently retractable claws and brown paw pads, and black cuff-like bands on its legs. It has a red face with a white plate that resembles a handlebar mustache on its face, and a three-pointed yellow crest on its forehead. Entei's head appears to resemble a kabuto, a samurai helmet.

Well, to be honest, while I'm sure the intention is good, I really don't see it :/ I italic-ized the thingy from bulbapedia that made me understand what it was supposed to be based on, but I think they could've made a better attempt at the design, and thus, I really feel that Heatran is a more accurate description of volcanoes, they tend to stay over certain hot-spots, not race all over the earth : D

It is said that an Entei is born whenever a volcano erupts. It is also said that whenever Entei roars, a volcano erupts somewhere in the world.

Now this is a vicious cycle!