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PC ~ The Broken Community

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I agree with Pokejungle's statement. Some people are trying to hide that PC has any problems and thus, try and get threads closed and people to stop talking because they want to act like there aren't problems and soon enough they are going to get more out of hand than they already are. Legendary Pokemaster, there have been more threads about these issues, but they get closed, and like a chain reaction, a new one pops up. They aren't going to stop until they get solved.
 
REP ISN'T THE MAIN ISSUE HERE!!

PC isn't as fun as it used to be, do mainly to people who aren't being considerate! When I joined it was A TON better, and the members were nice to each other, there were no "Leaving threads" because someone had hurt there feelings.
 
I'm really on something so different. I don;t like how everytime something minor occurs, people whine and stuff about it, which might seem like what I'm now, but I've whitnessed this so much since 2003, it's not even funny. Please don't rip me for still posting after I said I was leaving, but I didn't get all of my points out. I don't like how cheesy this place can be at times. And you all try to close threads so people can't discuss their problems. Even schools allow you to do that, and when you try to be more strict than the school, you have a problem. But, whatever, agree or agree to disagree.
 
1. People hurting eachother via PM arent controllable by the higher staff
2. PC cannot control who joins, only ban those that disrupt the place
3. Technically there are no leaving threads now since they're not allowed :P
..what other issues are there then?
 
DF dadragonz said:
PJ and Nick, you really are being a bit too dramatic :\
The only problems that have come up is:
1. Rep (there are mixed views, so you cant just decide to turn it off, which you yourselves can just turn off your personal rep)
2. T-Dome (referring to only about 3 threads, which arent a big deal but can be closed)
So there are no huge problems with PC..
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Thats what I was thinking. We've identified the problem, and we dont need any more discussion on it. I think this isnt helping PC one bit....
 
^^NICK^^ v.3.0 said:
And no, PiroMunkie, this isn't the most controversial day, obviously you, you here when Cas was.
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Thats what this reminds me of, he did A LOT of these in summer, this is calm compared to back then. The seasons don't change anything. You have the mentality that PC is a bad place so it's going to be like that if you think it.
 
PC isn't that fun anymore. That's the root of the problem. The causes are what we need to fix. DF, yes, those are some of the problems, but PC is having a slow death in my opinion. The new members aren't staying, the old members are leaving, and the actual members aren't being all that nice to each other.

PC isn't the place it used to be. It's slow, spamy, and mean. PC is turning off new members because there are so many members that hurt others unchecked. The old PC wasn't like that.
 
pokejungle said:
PC isn't that fun anymore. That's the root of the problem. The causes are what we need to fix. DF, yes, those are some of the problems, but PC is having a slow death in my opinion. The new members aren't staying, the old members are leaving, and the actual members aren't being all that nice to each other.

PC isn't the place it used to be. It's slow, spamy, and mean. PC is turning off new members because there are so many members that hurt others unchecked. The old PC wasn't like that.
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The old pc was diffrent, because it had fewer members, now the place is much bigger so it needs to change.
 
And what causes have you come up with?
1. For the final time, we cannot control who joins PC, only ban those who act badly
2. All the members i know are staying, so i dont know who you mean by "the old members are leaving", besides PC is getting new members continually
Just because ppl have more work/things going on in their life doesnt mean that we should force them to stay..you cant control if ppl want to leave..

Everyone should already be being nice to everyone, so theres no need to tell everyone to be nice :\
 
I agree that PC has indeed changed, and its starting to turn up pretty bad, even though its not drammatically bad yet.

1st - In the opinion of this humble ninja here, I would advise admins to consider the ban of rep - i mean, what is the point of rep as I already said?? Some people (mostly childish people) can get emotionally hurt by rep, which may cause them to leave..... is that what we want? People who REALLY enjoy rep as it is should also consider that the inappropriate use of it is making people uncomfortable.... stuff like "you see? I have more rep than you! I'm more popular than you!!" can really hurt some people, and it also brings a pointless competitiveness on the whole PC's environment....
I believe that wanting to leave rep on could be considered as a selfish tought: I mean, Can't you try and get used not to have rep for the benefits of other users who are more sensitive than you?? If you can't give up rep only because you seem to like to read the comments people leave, then you are not considering that people can get hurt by this rep...

2nd - PC is becoming, regardless of rep, full of people looking for popularity instead of a fun place.... some people would just do anything to be a mod, and some people just want to post everywhere for the sake of being "popular"..... i mean, this is sad... i have seen some members who are really becoming hopeless... there are also some other problems in here, but I don't feel like listing them right now :\
 
DF dadragons said:
1. People hurting eachother via PM arent controllable by the higher staff
Actually, there is a vB hack somewhere that let's Admins read users PMs and who sent them, and people can also be banned from using the PM system

2. PC cannot control who joins, only ban those that disrupt the place
No, they can set it so people with a certain IP or E-mail address can't join (aka IP Banning and E-Mail Banning)

3. Technically there are no leaving threads now since they're not allowed :P
They may not be allowed to, but some members still sometimes do create leaving threads
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My work here is done *Disappears into thin air*
 
PGN, i mean that we cant stop them BEFORE they send the PM
And we're talking about new ppl who do that, not old members who return, there already are IP bans in place *rolls eyes*
 
DF dadragonz said:
2. All the members i know are staying, so i dont know who you mean by "the old members are leaving", besides PC is getting new members continually
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Old members are leaving, you can just look at the staff. Only two (excluding admins) of the current staff members were on the staff when I joined. All the others ones left.

And I agree, n00bs looking for popularity are crowding this place. They just follow everything else that's popular (and most of the time do it poorly or mess it up completely).
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3. Technically there are no leaving threads now since they're not allowed :P
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Thus, they're hiding a problem if they're not allowed...
 
Regarding staff who have left, quite a few still post but just didnt want the responsibility
For that point, i refer back to what i said about "Just because ppl have more work/things going on in their life doesnt mean that we should force them to stay..you cant control if ppl want to leave.."
 
oh please!! the only way PC could "die" is if Steve and Kwesi want to take the site down XP
this seems kinda mellow dramatic...
 
Shadow said:
Old members are leaving, you can just look at the staff. Only two (excluding admins) of the current staff members were on the staff when I joined. All the others ones left.

And I agree, n00bs looking for popularity are crowding this place. They just follow everything else that's popular (and most of the time do it poorly or mess it up completely).

Thus, they're hiding a problem if they're not allowed...
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There is/was a general leaving thread for that. If older members leave, so be it. People have to get on with their lifes.
 
Alas.... poor PC.... There must be a problem going on already if we are discussing this, so no one can deny that PC is not having problems at all.... Even though people try to hide it, PC's 'quality' as a forum is dropping.... I remember how good it was once - pure friendliness overwhelmed the whole forum, regardless of level, REP(!), Fame etc....
People are now fighting and aiming to the power and administration of PC, just to feel more important and recognised... how childish.... :sleeping:
 
I have not been here for any longer than five months, and therefore I have no say to compare between its past and present.

However, I wish to say that old members leaving is not some abnormal phenomenon. It happens. Someday this person leaves, and that person leaves, either that they lost taste to the subject, or real life issues press them to do so.

What we can do now is live through this little wave of problems that will happen in any switch between two generations of avid, reputable, and popular posters. I hate to lecture, but seeing the examples in history of every world culture, this is only natural.

As for our reputation, I only side to its removal only because it means nothing. Your reputation in this forum is determined by your postcount. If you don't post much, people will cast you aside. Done. And if you have been here long enough, it doesn't take a digital value to determine your true reputation. People would have known you well enough to determine it by their own discretion. The reputation bar is nothing but a little showcase of a person's status. People don't have to look at it to discern your true nature. Just by looking at your posts, one can see you. If that's so, why whine over a little bar that says you're stupid when you post intelligently?

The PM Problem: Flaming will happen. What matters is the aftermath. I suggest that we either assign mods to specifically control this issue, or just go through the systematic removal of hotheads. I'm not asking for tyranny, but it was clearly necessary.

The population and noobs: What is the problem about living together? There's always a bad apple in the bucket, and we can't do anything about it. If anything, I may comment that the modern view of internet consists of cutting short the distance between the internet and real life. In real life, of course, you can get offended and such, but why do that in the internet, when you can't possibly control what a person does, because you cannot see the person, don't know who that person is, and much less where he is? People are thinking just like they do in real life as in online life. If all becomes horrible, what's the problem about throwing all this aside and get on with real life? It's not like any further argument and flaming will get a person to rally his gang and start throwing bricks into your house, right?

Those are my views, and it's nothing but an opinion. I hope people can consider these views of mine before continuing to flame in part confusion, and part selfishness.
 
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