PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY TEAM FOR ORAS

flowdaughty

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    I am trying to build a competitive pkemon team for online battling in Omega Ruby. I've trained a small amount of pokemon (what i will list below) but every combination of pokemon I try I am unsuccessful. Please tell me what you think I should do and if there are any other pokemon I need to get also what items I should have them hold. All the pokemon are EV trained and have either 5 or 6 IV. I'm new to this really competitive team building so please help thank you.

    Name:Greninja lv.100
    Ability:Protean
    Nature: Hasty
    HP:285
    Attack:227
    Defense:153
    Sp. Attack:305
    Sp. DEF:178
    Speed:377
    Moves:
    1.dark pulse
    2.hydro pump
    3.ice beam
    4.u-turn

    Name:Lucario lv.100
    Ability:justified
    Nature: Jolly
    HP:281
    Attack:319
    Defense:176
    Sp. Attack:239
    Sp. DEF:177
    Speed:306
    Moves:
    1.close combat
    2.iron tail
    3.bullet punch
    4.stone edge

    Name:Aegislash lv.100
    Ability:Stance Change
    Nature: Quiet
    HP:324
    Attack:137
    Defense:336
    Sp. Attack:218
    Sp. DEF:336
    Speed:140
    Moves:
    1.Kings shield
    2.shadow ball
    3.flash cannon
    4.shadow sneak


    Name:Carbink lv.100
    Ability:Clear Body
    Nature: Bold
    HP:304
    Attack:122
    Defense:438
    Sp. Attack:136
    Sp. DEF:337
    Speed:136
    Moves:
    1.reflect
    2.safegaurd
    3.toxic
    4.light screen


    Name:Metagross lv. 100
    Ability:Clear Body
    Nature: Adamant
    HP:302
    Attack:336
    Defense:359
    Sp. Attack:203
    Sp. DEF:279
    Speed:176
    Moves:
    1.earthquake
    2.hammer arm
    3.meteor mash
    4.zen headbutt

    Name:Lucario lv.100
    Ability:Steadfast
    Nature: adamant
    HP:282
    Attack:350
    Defense:176
    Sp. Attack:239
    Sp. DEF:176
    Speed:279
    Moves:
    1.shadow claw
    2.close combat
    3.extreme speed
    4. earthquake

    Name:Rotom(Wash) lv.100
    Ability:Levitate
    Nature: Calm
    HP:304
    Attack:149
    Defense:251
    Sp. Attack:277
    Sp. DEF:309
    Speed:208
    Moves:
    1.thunderbolt
    2.hydro pump
    3.will-o-wisp
    4.toxic

    Name:Dragonite lv.100
    Ability:Multiscale
    Nature: Adamant
    HP:324
    Attack:403
    Defense:226
    Sp. Attack:212
    Sp. DEF:236
    Speed:259
    Moves:
    1.roost
    2.fire punch
    3.extreme speed
    4dragon claw

    Name:Ludicolo lv.78
    Ability:Rain Dish
    Nature: timid
    HP:236
    Attack:124
    Defense:139
    Sp. Attack:218
    Sp. DEF:185
    Speed:205
    Moves:
    1.scald
    2.giga drain
    3.ice beam
    4fake out

    Name:Talonflame lv.100
    Ability:flame body
    Nature: adamant
    HP:298
    Attack:287
    Defense:178
    Sp. Attack:165
    Sp. DEF:174
    Speed:351
    Moves:
    1.roost
    2.brave bird
    3.flare blitz
    4thief


    Name:Hydreigon lv.100
    Ability:Levitate
    Nature:Timid
    HP:325
    Attack:221
    Defense:217
    Sp. Attack:349
    Sp. DEF:216
    Speed:324
    Moves:
    1.dragon pulse
    2.u-turn
    3.darke pulse
    4.fire blast

    Name:Scizor lv.100
    Ability:Technician
    Nature:Impish
    HP:344
    Attack:296
    Defense:328
    Sp. Attack:131
    Sp. DEF:196
    Speed:167
    Moves:
    1.sword dance
    2.aerial ace
    3.bullet punch
    4.roost
     
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    What exactly are the EVs and items on these pokes anyway? It might be useful for us to know.

    Anyway, while a special set on Greninja is viable, a mixed set is still arguably the most deadly version of Greninja:

    -Greninja w/Life Orb
    Nature: Hasty/Naive
    Ability: Protean
    EVs: 44 Attack, 212 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed
    Moves: Gunk Shot, Low Kick, Ice Beam, Hydro Pump/Dark Pulse/Extrasensory/Grass Knot

    On Metagross, Jolly usually>Adamant because base 110 Speed (in mega form) is a nice Speed to have. And you don't wanna run both Hammer Arm and Earthquake because you miss out on much needed coverage. Drop one for Ice Punch/Thunder Punch. If you don't feel like breeding for a Jolly one you can run an Agligross set instead. Same EV spread, just swap Hammer Arm with Agility.

    Also, Lucario doesn't need 2 Steel attacks. Just Bullet Punch is enough. You'll want like Earthquake or Crunch for extra coverage.

    I think another problem is that you have a lot of same types and some of the pokes don't exactly work well together. Almost all of your Pokemon are either Water, Dragon, or Steel type. Good types, yes, but you need more than those 3 types. Ludicolo really wants the rain, but you have no rain setter. Also you really need to get a Gale Wings Talonflame because that's the whole reason my it ever gets used in the first place, and you can do better than Carbink. Carbink is slow, is Taunt bait, has no offensive presence, and has no reliable recovery. If you go with a different Fairy type, you can at least complete a decent Dragon/Steel/Fairy core. Suppose some things to think about would be like....Clefable or Mega Dianice or Sylveon or something.
     
    Zekrom said:
    What exactly are the EVs and items on these pokes anyway? It might be useful for us to know.

    Anyway, while a special set on Greninja is viable, a mixed set is still arguably the most deadly version of Greninja:

    -Greninja w/Life Orb
    Nature: Hasty/Naive
    Ability: Protean
    EVs: 44 Attack, 212 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed
    Moves: Gunk Shot, Low Kick, Ice Beam, Hydro Pump/Dark Pulse/Extrasensory/Grass Knot

    On Metagross, Jolly usually>Adamant because base 110 Speed (in mega form) is a nice Speed to have. And you don't wanna run both Hammer Arm and Earthquake because you miss out on much needed coverage. Drop one for Ice Punch/Thunder Punch. If you don't feel like breeding for a Jolly one you can run an Agligross set instead. Same EV spread, just swap Hammer Arm with Agility.

    Also, Lucario doesn't need 2 Steel attacks. Just Bullet Punch is enough. You'll want like Earthquake or Crunch for extra coverage.

    I think another problem is that you have a lot of same types and some of the pokes don't exactly work well together. Almost all of your Pokemon are either Water, Dragon, or Steel type. Good types, yes, but you need more than those 3 types. Ludicolo really wants the rain, but you have no rain setter. Also you really need to get a Gale Wings Talonflame because that's the whole reason my it ever gets used in the first place, and you can do better than Carbink. Carbink is slow, is Taunt bait, has no offensive presence, and has no reliable recovery. If you go with a different Fairy type, you can at least complete a decent Dragon/Steel/Fairy core. Suppose some things to think about would be like....Clefable or Mega Dianice or Sylveon or something.
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    EVs for each Pokemon would be great. We don't need to know the exact stats.

    Jolly is redundant with Agility/Rock Polish Metagross; Adamant is generally better, as the Speed loss can be made up for with Agility. While it seems weird, Grass Knot is a viable option to hit bulky Ground/Water Pokemon hard, plus it benefits from Tough Claws, despite being a special attack:
    -Meteor Mash
    -Zen Headbutt
    -Hammer Arm/Earthquake
    -Ice Punch/Bullet Punch/Grass Knot
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Metagrossite
    Ability: Clear Body

    or
    -Agility
    -Meteor Mash
    -Zen Headbutt
    -Earthquake/Hammer Arm
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 80 HP/252 Atk/176 Spe
    Item: Metagrossite
    Ability: Clear Body

    Ludicolo functions best on rain teams. Outside of them, it fails so badly, as its Speed isn't that high.

    Iron Tail Lucario is also a viable option, despite the move's inaccuracy, to hit Fairy Pokemon harder:
    -Swords Dance
    -Close Combat
    -Extreme Speed
    -Iron Tail/Crunch/Ice Punch
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    As Zekrom said, Gale Wings Talonflame is preferred over the Flame Body variants, as Gale Wings gives Brave Bird (or Acrobatics) priority to let Talonflame revenge kill just about anything that doesn't resist Flying, especially frail ones:
    -Swords Dance
    -Flare Blitz
    -Brave Bird/Acrobatics
    -Roost
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 88 HP/252 Atk/168 Spe
    Item: Sharp Beak/Sky Plate/none
    Ability: Gale Wings

    or
    -Bulk Up/Swords Dance
    -Brave Bird
    -Roost
    -Will-o-Wisp/Taunt
    Nature: Careful/Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/8 Def/252 SDef (Careful) or 248 HP/252 Atk/8 Spe (Adamant)
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Gale Wings

    or
    -Flare Blitz
    -Brave Bird
    -U-turn
    -Steel Wing/Tailwind
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Gale Wings

    Diancie (this is a superior Carbink in every single way possible):
    -Diamond Storm
    -Moonblast
    -Earth Power/Hidden Power (Fire)
    -Protect/Hidden Power (Fire)
    Nature: Naive/Hasty
    EVs: 16 Atk/240 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Diancite

    or
    -Rock Polish
    -Diamond Storm
    -Moonblast
    -Earth Power
    Nature: Rash
    EVs: 64 HP/16 Atk/252 SAtk/176 Spe
    Item: Diancite

    or
    -Calm Mind
    -Moonblast
    -Earth Power
    -Psyshock/Hidden Power (Fire)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Diancite

    Sylveon:
    -Wish
    -Protect
    -Hyper Voice
    -Heal Bell/Toxic
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/220 Def/36 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Pixilate

    or
    -Hyper Voice
    -Psyshock
    -Shadow Ball/Hidden Power (Fire/Ground)
    -Baton Pass
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 244 HP/252 SAtk/12 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs
    Ability: Pixilate

    Clefable:
    -Calm Mind
    -Moonblast
    -Soft-Boiled/Moonlight
    -Flamethrower/Thunder Wave
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP/172 Def/84 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Magic Guard

    or
    -Calm Mind
    -Moonblast
    -Moonlight/Wish
    -Heal Bell/Protect
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Unaware

    or
    -Stealth Rock
    -Moonblast
    -Fire Blast
    -Soft-Boiled/Moonlight
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP/184 Def/72 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Unaware

    Outside of hitting Keldeo, Aerial Ace is useless on Scizor. Non-Mega Scizor should be using Choice Band if the Mega slot is taken up by Metagross:
    -U-turn
    -Bullet Punch
    -Superpower
    -Pursuit/Knock Off
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Technician

    Stick to Will-o-Wisp on Wash Rotom. You really don't need both Will-o-Wisp and Toxic on it at once; this deprives Rotom of semi-reliable recovery in Pain Split or Rest. Volt Switch > Thunderbolt; the former pairs well with Scizor's U-turn, as they can help your team build up momentum:
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split/Rest
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Chesto Berry
     
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