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drummershuff said:
Oh, Yeah, But it is still part Psychic though.
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How is it part psychic? No one has yet to tell me that.

The fact that it can only learn seven psychic attacks doesn't make it psychic or part psychic.

Psycho
 
*too lazy to check the chart* So what does it say? Dusclops is weak to Ghostly attacks of death and shadows?
 
You lazy bum. :P
-Types can have no effect on another (=), double damage (+), or half damage (-). Also note that if a Pokemon is a certain type, and it attacks with the same type of attack, it will inflict one-half extra damage on the opponent (before type confliction).

-Below is a list of types and how they fare against another. Notice that the topic type is the type you are using. Also, if two types will not have any difference in effect, it will not be listed.


Normal [Regular] -Rock, =Ghost, -Steel
Fire [Special] -Fire, -Water, +Grass, +Ice, +Bug, -Rock, -Dragon, +Steel
Water [Special] +Fire, -Water, +Grass, +Ice, +Bug, -Rock, -Dragon
Electric [Special] +Water, -Electric, -Grass, =Ground, +Flying, -Dragon
Grass [Special] ?Fire, +Water, -Grass, -Poison, +Ground, -Flying, -Bug, +Rock, -Dragon, -Steel
Ice [Special] ?Fire, -Water, +Grass, -Ice, +Ground, +Flying, +Dragon, -Steel
Fighting [Regular] +Normal, +Ice, -Poison, -Flying, -Psychic, -Bug, +Rock, -Dragon, -Steel
Poison [Regular] +Grass, -Poison, -Ground, -Rock, -Ghost, =Steel
Ground [Regular] +Fire, +Electric, -Grass, +Poison, =Flying, -Bug, +Rock, +Steel
Flying [Regular] ?Electric, +Grass, +Fighting, +Bug, -Rock, -Steel
Psychic [Special] +Fighting, +Poison, -Psychic, =Dark, -Steel
Bug [Regular] ?Fire, +Grass, -Fighting, -Poison, -Flying, +Psychic, -Ghost, +Dark, -Steel
Rock [Regular] +Fire, +Ice, -Fighting, -Ground, +Flying, +Bug, -Steel
Ghost [Regular] =Normal, +Psychic, +Ghost, -Dark, -Steel
Dragon [Special] +Dragon, -Steel
Dark [Special] +Ghost, -Steel
Steel [Regular] ?Fire, -Water, -Electric, +Ice, +Rock, -Steel
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If that's what you meant by type chart.

Psycho
 
I'm training my Shelgon on Emerald (it's Lv48)
My favo Dragon would be Flygon. He's cute to be a dragon ^_^ FLYYGON!
 
my favorite dragon...dragonite since it learns a bunch of tm/hm moves--seven out of the eight HMs i think, all but flash. I got one at the pokemon event giveaway for sapphire. It's L70. It's so awesome...
 
Ghost [Regular] =Normal, +Psychic, +Ghost, -Dark, -Steel
That means Ghost types are highly affected by Ghost type and Psychic type attacks. Dark and Steel attacks don't have much effect on them.
 
Affirmative, that is the point. Ghost types are highly effected by ghost and psychic attacks, whereas psychic types aren't even moved by other psychic attacks. If Dusclops were part psychic, then dark types would destroy it, but since it would be part ghost, dark types wouldn't do hardly any damage. To be a ghost and psychic type would literally make it invincible; however, within any Pokedex you find, you'll see that Dusclops in registered as a ghost type - not a dual type.

Psycho
 
But Dusclops IS just Ghost type. O O;

Oh and if Dusclops was dual typed with Psychic, then Dark type attacks would simply do its normal damage. Since Ghost types are not affected by Dark much, and Psychic types are highly affected. Lets say, the balancing of the two types will neutralize the damage and produce something even.
 
Supreme Edgeboy Max said:
Oh by the way Psycho, to clear things up, I think Dusclops is part Psychic.
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Drummershuff said:
Oh, Yeah, But it is still part Psychic though.
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Okay, then why would you think that it was part psychic? >_>

Your dual type theory does not work out, because the fact that it would have psychic-characteristics would give it the same abilities. Just as Gyarados is a flying/water type, it is highly effected by grass attacks, despite its being part flying. The damage isn't neutralized, its still the same. Another example would be Poliwrath, it's fighting/water, yet it is still highly effected by grass and electirc attacks; fighting types aren't weak against either. Certain dual types can't be made, such as: Water/Fire or Grass/Fire.

Psycho
 
Yeah, Yeah ,YEAH we all know that *very annoyed*. I think that Dusclops should be a Psychic type. He beam's stuff out of it's eyes and a lot of Psyhic things that are Psychic do that.

:t003:Dark Venusaur
 
Psycho said:
Okay, then why would you think that it was part psychic? >_>

Your dual type theory does not work out, because the fact that it would have psychic-characteristics would give it the same abilities. Just as Gyarados is a flying/water type, it is highly effected by grass attacks, despite its being part flying. The damage isn't neutralized, its still the same. Another example would be Poliwrath, it's fighting/water, yet it is still highly effected by grass and electirc attacks; fighting types aren't weak against either. Certain dual types can't be made, such as: Water/Fire or Grass/Fire.

Psycho
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Um, I we were wrong? < < Dusclops appear as Ghost typed, not Psychic.
And actually, that IS what it is. Pelipper is Water cross Flying, thus doubly damaged by Electric attacks. But because of this, Grass type attacks get neutral damage on it. This means that the attack won't say "Its super effective!" or "Its not very effective.." when it hits.
 
You missed the point. A psychic/ghost type would still cancel itself out, not neutralize other attacks. Marshtomp is water/ground, yet electric attacks can't effect it, despite its being part water - not neutralized. It says "super effective" when you hit a Poliwrath with an electric attack, yet fighting types normally aren't effected as harshly by electric attacks. Flying, Grass, and Psychic attacks can easily waste a Poliwrath, thus it takes on both weaknesses from its dual status. However, as I said, certain types can't co-exist together as dual types proportionately. A fire/water type is pretty much pointless.

Edit: This is quite an intriguing discussion. =D

Psycho
 
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A psychic/ghost type would still cancel itself out, not neutralize other attacks. ~ What do you mean exactly?

Marshtomp is water/ground, yet electric attacks can't effect it, despite its being part water - not neutralized. ~ You forget, that Ground times are completely invulnurable to Electric attacks, so that's what cancels out the complete attack over Marshtomp. This is also why Marshtomp will take double-effective damage with a Grass type attack.

It says "super effective" when you hit a Poliwrath with an electric attack, yet fighting types normally aren't effected as harshly by electric attacks. ~ Fighting types take normal damage from Electric attacks, so the secondary Water type is what double the damage.

Certain types can't co-exist together as dual types proportionately. A fire/water type is pretty much pointless. ~ And that would be why such Pokemon does not exist.

And the following, is the type chart I was talking about. I print-screen'd if off Pokemon Netbattle.
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By the way, this'll help clear things up with my term~
Neutralize : Equalize, not cancel out something like nutralize.
Normal damage : Normal damage you'd recieve. Suppose, a Flying type attack on Fire type.
Double damge : Super Effective
Double-effective: Dual Super Effective (eg. Electric on Water~Flying)
Cancelling out damage: That means all your damage dies? :3

Wherever Psycho is, excellent discussions pop up. |bows|
 
Affirmative, Gyarados was an atrocious examplification. Grass attacks on a Gyarados only cause the same amount as ice attacks.

Certain types can't co-exist together as dual types proportionately. A fire/water type is pretty much pointless. ~ And that would be why such Pokemon does not exist.
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Alas, You still have yet to see the point. I have been saying this all along. ._.;
You forget, that Ground times are completely invulnurable to Electric attacks, so that's what cancels out the complete attack over Marshtomp. This is also why Marshtomp will take double-effective damage with a Grass type attack.
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I forgot? You appear to be mistaken, as I wouldn't have stated it had I forgotten it. >_>;
Judging by what you posted, Max, I can see where you became lost on my train thought. I fear that you have missed the point. This doesn't cause for any indepth research, or de facto resources; it's simple logic.

By the way, Marshtomp and Poliwrath were just illustrations to contrast your Pelipper illustration, which I surmise is what confused you. The damage is not neutralized because Poliwrath takes double damage for psychic, flying, electric, and grass due to its dual status; its not the same as Pelipper, which is water/flying - grass overpowers water. Dual types should take on dual weakenesses.
Fighting types take normal damage from Electric attacks, so the secondary Water type is what double the damage.
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We all know that, which is why that's not the point. I'll end it here, as this was the only thing within your post that wasn't as completely spurious from my point.

Posting that chart was extremely pointless, and extraneous, considering all that I wished to specify was: A GHOST/PSYCHIC TYPE WOULD NOT WORK - it is a contradiction within itself.

A psychic/ghost type would still cancel itself out, not neutralize other attacks. ~ What do you mean exactly?
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A psychic/ghost dual type couldn't work out because it'd have borrow from both types (strengths, abilities, and weakenesses) - just as a Marshtomp does by being ground/water - psychics and ghosts cancel each other out, just as fire and water, fire and grass, electric and rock; they are opposites, not capable of proportionately co-existing in one stable form. It's actually quite pointless, similar to creating a normal/fire type. >_>

Certain types just can't be put together, is what I am saying. I apologize if I discomposed you with my previous aloofness, as I feel that its what caused the adrift.

Psycho
 
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Let me rephrase- Dusclops should be a Psychic/Ghost type. So how will it cancel each other out if its x4 weakness will be Ghost and Dark.

:t003:Dark Venusaur
 
|scratches head quietly| Psycho, you just confused the last bit of sanity out of me. > < I admit my inferiority to you. |goes crazy| As far as I know, I've been saying the same things as you .. but then you make it sound so different and stuf ... oh STFU. @ @;;

XD Get a new topic Psycho, before I really DO go crazy.
 
Oh, her posts are easy to read, and definitely worth the while [frankly, PC could do with more intelligence and logic]. They just take some getting-used to, really. XD; She talks in a more complicated way than even Kaga.

Ontopic! I totally agree with the Ghost/Psychic thing. It's ludicrous to even have a Ghost/Psychic Pokémon. [I for one also think it's stupid having Flying/Normal types... Normal types should not be juxtaposed with any other type, as the neutrality of Normal types - well, that's not a good word for it... - is cancelled out by the presence of the other type, really. And Dragon/Flying... last time I checked, dragons have wings, so what's the point of Flying? o_o; Have I missed something?]
 
Yeah, but my brain is so small so I always fail at misunderstanding at least 75% of what she says.

Um, Dragon/Flying .. some dragons don't have wings at all though. But still, you have a point.
 
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