Pokemon Discussion (Current Subject: Aerodactyl)

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That's why I hate Skarm-Rock Attacks murder it.

Block is funner with Explosion. Block the incoming counter, have a focus sash to take the hit, and ram it with a BOOM. Though that's quite a bit novelty.

More fun is block with counter, where the strongest physical attack will get hammered back...then you can BOOM something to finish off.

Eh, just some weirdo novelty ideas that probably wouldn't work. Tangrowth runs Block better anyways, so yeah.
 
Loquacity said:
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The new page. Pretty simplistic. Also let me practice my HTML skills.
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I can help with HTML considering I've been working on HTML projects for a year or two now ;)

Also, on the subpunch set, no real need for fire punch since a supereffective F-punch will do what a normal foucs punch will do to Skarm. Unless you fear Forry, but it isn't that common really
 
Well, that set is actually two combined into one. Substitute / Focus Punch and Sandstorm / Fire Punch go together I believe. Expect a new Pokemon today.

I'm also altering a few rules and adding another one:

There will be a set format everyone will have to submit their move sets in:

[Pokemon] @ [Item]
Ability: [Name]
EVs: [EV Spread Here]
[Name] Nature

- Move 1
- Move 2
- Move 3
- Move 4

Explanation:

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It will make my life easier when building the site.


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Name: Hariyama
Classification: Arm Thrust Pokemon
Typing: Fighting
Height / Weight: 7'07" / 559.5 lbs.
Tier: Borderline (BL)
Ability: Thick Fat / Guts

Stats-
HP- 144
Attack- 120
Defense- 60
Special Attack- 40
Special Defense- 60
Speed- 50

Diamond / Pearl PokeDex Entry- It loves match power with big-bodied Pokemon. It can knock a truck flying with its arm thrusts.

Image courtesy of Arkeis.​
 
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Loquacity said:
Well, that set is actually two combined into one. Substitute / Focus Punch and Sandstorm / Fire Punch go together I believe. Expect a new Pokemon today.

I'm also altering a few rules and adding another one:

There will be a set format everyone will have to submit their move sets in:

[Pokemon] @ [Item]
Ability: [Name]
EVs: [EV Spread Here]
[Name] Nature

- Move 1
- Move 2
- Move 3
- Move 4

Explanation:

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It will make my life easier when building the site.


A NEW CHALLENGER HAS APPEARED!

[PokeCommunity.com] Pokemon Discussion (Current Subject: Aerodactyl)


Name: Hariyama
Classification: Arm Thrust Pokemon
Typing: Fighting
Height / Weight: 7'07" / 559.5 lbs.
Tier: Borderline (BL)
Ability: Thick Fat / Guts

Stats-
HP- 144
Attack- 120
Defense- 60
Special Attack- 40
Special Defense- 60
Speed- 50

Diamond / Pearl PokeDex Entry- It loves match power with big-bodied Pokemon. It can knock a truck flying with its arm thrusts.

Image courtesy of Arkeis.​
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Hariyama@Leftovers
76 HP / 252 Atk / 180 Def
Trait : Thick fat / Guts
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Focus punch
- Stone Edge
- Payback


I love this set, Focus Punch packs so much power coming from this. Payback deals with ghosts and stone edge covers salamence and gyarados etc.

Guts is a viable alternative if your willing to trade Ice and Fire resists for status absorbing.
 
Hariyama@Choice Band
EVs: 152 HP, 212 Atk, 116 Def
Guts
-Fake Out/Bullet Punch
-Close Combat/Cross Chop/Focus Punch
-Stone Edge
-Payback/Faint Attack

To make up for Hariyama's lack of speed, priority moves help it gain that quick kill, or at least take the opponent by surprise. Close Combat and Cross Chop offer a powerful STAB, but a CBed Focus Punch on the incoming counters sure hurt alot. Stone Edge for the flyers and Payback/Faint Attack for the ghosties

Guts over Thick Fat since this will be switching alot, and sometimes into incoming WoW or Thunderwaves
 
i don't there is ever going to be a clearly defined set for hariyama. it can really work its way into most teams and perform a specific duty with its movepool, abilities and typing.
 
Hariyama@Leftovers
EV's : 252 HP / 252 ATK / 4 DEF or SDEF
Nature : Adamant
Ability : Thick Fat
Moves :
- Close Combat/Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Knock Off
- Stone Edge

Works best with Reflect/Light Screen support. Hariyama is one of the best Pokemon to switch on Stealth Rock, set up Substitute on the opponent's switch, Knock Off it's valuable item or attempt to OHKO with a move. Since it isn't able to learn Taunt, it loses a lot, Knock Off works in place of Taunt for the Skarmory/Gliscor that simply can't lose their Leftovers. Do NOT attempt to use Knock Off on Ghosts just because Close Combat isn't able to hit the Ghosts, Stone Edge has 20+ more power on the Ghost-Type Pokemon.

Hariyama@Flame Orb/Toxic Orb
EV's : 252 HP / 252 ATK / 4 SPD
Nature : Adamant
Ability : Guts
- Fake Out
- Close Combat
- Bullet Punch
- Protect/Payback/Stone Edge

Switches in Toxic Spikes, delivers a boosted Fake Out, or Protect with your selected Orb for the Boost on Guts ability. Simply Fake Out after activating Guts and switch in on the correct time and open with Fake Out and strike with Bullet Punch. Close Combat is to destroy switch in's or Pokemon slower than itself. (which is rare)
 
Hariama: @ toxic orb/ focus sash
Nature: Adamant
Evs: 84 hp, 252 att, 84 def, 84 spdef/ 252 att, 252 spd
Trait: Guts
Fake out
Faint attack/ Bullet punch
Close combat
Stone edge

Depending on what you want, there are changes. Bullet punch with focus sash and will want second ev spread too.

Or;

Hariama: @ Toxic orb
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Guts
Evs: 84 hp, 252 att, 84 def, 84 spdef
Ice punch
Thunder punch
Fake out
Close combat/ Brick break

Yeah, t-punch harms gyrados leads, brick break takes out cressy's reflect. Some how, we could use a set using whirlwind.


new choice specs haryama!

************* NOTE: This, like loquacity's gimmick set is not really good. It is horrible in competitive play. YOU WERE WARNED!***************

haryama: @ Choice specs
Nature:Quiet
Trait:Thick fat
Evs: 252 spatt, 252 hp, 6 def
Focus blast
Brine/ Surf
HP [dark]
hyperbeam
 
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^ Burn Orb is better on Yama since it stays in.

And screw you guys putting 252 HP on something with 144/60/60 defenses.

Hariyama @ Leftovers
EVs: 252 Def/252 SDef/4 HP
Ability: Thick Fat/Guts
Impish Nature
Counter
Whirlwind
Knock Off
Payback

Counter is an good option. Knock Off can be annoying, as can Whirlwind. Payback hits the Ghosties but most will suffer from simply losing their item. Dusknoir/Spiritomb/Missy really like their Lefties, Gengar is much less of a threat without Life Orb/Specs/Scarf/Wide Lens, Rotom loses its Tricking power, and it even one-shots Focus Sash Sheddy. I think. It works that way on Shoddy at least.

This thing would be so great with Slack Off.
 
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shedinjask said:
^ Burn Orb is better on Yama since it stays in.

And screw you guys putting 252 HP on something with 144/60/60 defenses.

Hariyama @ Leftovers
EVs: 252 Def/252 SDef/4 HP
Ability: Thick Fat/Guts
Impish Nature
Counter
Taunt
Whirlwind/Knock Off/Payback
Whirlwind/Knock Off/Payback

Taunt/Counter is an good option. Knock Off can be annoying, as can Whirlwind. Payback hits the Ghosties but most will suffer from simply losing their item. Dusknoir/Spiritomb/Missy really like their Lefties, Gengar is much less of a threat without Life Orb/Specs/Scarf/Wide Lens, Rotom loses its Tricking power, and it even one-shots Focus Sash Sheddy. I think. It works that way on Shoddy at least.

This thing would be so great with Slack Off.
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One problem Hariyama doesn't get Taunt.
 
Hariyama@Burn Orb
Adamant~252 Attack/252 HP/6 Speed
Trait:Guts
Facade
Close Combat
Bullet Punch
Fake Out

Fake out first turn as long as you aren't against a ghost, which ensures you activating your Orb, then kill stuff ._.
Bullet punch is for Sashers, or if your team has spikes support, you can use it to finish off weakened stuff. Works quite well when in the right hands IMO.
 
So it doesn't get Taunt.

._.

Hariyama has better moves than Facade.
 
Ooka said:
Um, Facade gets 140 power after the Move boost and guts boost.
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and Close Combat gets 180 Power all by itself ._.

and read the descriptions on my set Shedinjask, and distributing Defense and Special Defense will actually help.. in what way? Boost it's best stats to have a neat advantage of surviving, boosting it's worst stats will hinder especially if it's the defense/special defense. (not attack since you're running a strange Hariyama ?_?)
 
Actually, it gets around 210 after the boosts. Just not STAB.

70x2 for Facade boost, and 140x1.5 for Guts Boost.
 
Ooka said:
Actually, it gets around 210 after the boosts. Just not STAB.

70x2 for Facade boost, and 140x1.5 for Guts Boost.
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No.. Gut's boosts your base attack stat by 1.5x, not the power

If that was true, then Close Combat would STILL be better
 
Bulky Sweeper

-Close Combat
-Bulk Up
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Rest

216 atk/146 def/146 hp
Adamant
 
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