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Crobat(M) @ Leftovers *Batman FTW!*
Trait: Inner Focus
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Sp Atk / 252 Spd
~ Nasty Plot
~ Air Slash
~ HP Ground/Ice
~ Dark Pulse
 
Here's the deal: Smarties has brought to my attention the flaws in this thread. After reading what Smarties had to say, I have to agree. And this is my own fault. The discussion moved too fast, decisions were made in a rash manner, and the format was unorganized. So, frankly, we're starting over. This time, we'll give a certain Pokemon a day's worth of attention. You may post what you feel is an effective move set for that particular species and once we have several move sets, they will be discussed and as a group, we will decide what we consider the best move set. With some Pokemon, there won't be a single effective move set. Therefore, we will have links to the Request a Team / Move Set thread where you may ask for an alternative move set from the one listed. And for today, I'd like to start with a Pokemon we had discussed earlier today and I am interested in discussing myself:

Hariyama

EDIT: First page has been edited with some new rules and this post.
 
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Hmm. So a different set from the one posted earlier?

Hariyama (M) @ Choice Band ** Black Belt
Trait: Guts
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Ice Punch
- Cross Chop / Close Combat
- Thunderpunch
- Stone Edge. Yay. Credit to Anti for the whole Set. :P
 
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Hariyama is slower than any sleep inducer. Giving it jolly just seems stupid to me when it can hardly outspeed a relaxed natured steelix.
 
I'm going to have to-CC and EQ is horribly redundant. An elemental punch would be of much more value to it than EQ...
 
Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
I'm going to have to-CC and EQ is horribly redundant. An elemental punch would be of much more value to it than EQ...
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I was joking. But it doesn't learn any E-Punches.. All except Bullet Punch. If that's considered an Elemental Punch. Good? Edit: It does through 3rd Gen. My mistake. ;/
 
:/

Since relying on switching into gengar is probably a bad idea with it, I don't think sleep talk should be run on it unless it has rest, to be honest. If you'd rather switch into something like Blissey Twaving you (like me ;)), I'd run this set:

Hariyama @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Cross Chop / Close Combat
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Stone Edge

Mock boltbeaming give it the coverage it needs. The rest is prediction. blissey will switch out, probably to something like gengar. Or even Gyarados. Neither like taking thunderpunch right in the mouth ;) Stone edge is for flyers that might want to switch in, CC gets STAB.

Just throwing stuff out there ;)
 
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Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
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Since relying on switching into gengar is probably a bad idea with it, I don't think sleep talk should be run on it unless it has rest, to be honest. If you'd rather switch into something like Blissey Twaving you (like me ;)), I'd run this set:

Hariyama @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Cross Chop
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Stone Edge

Mock boltbeaming give it the coverage it needs. The rest is prediction. blissey will switch out, probably to something like gengar. Or even Gyarados. Neither like taking thunderpunch right in the mouth ;) Stone edge is for flyers that might want to switch in, CC gets STAB.

Just throwing stuff out there ;)
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So switch out Close Combat for Chop and Sleep Talk for Ice Punch?
 
Um, I already posted the set. no need to have two of the same thing :/
 
Well, if you want novelty........

Hariyama @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts / Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant / Impish Nature
- Counter
- Bulk Up
- Rest
- Revenge

Um...I dunno :/
 
Hariyama @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack / 252 HP / 4 Defense
- Close Combat
- Substitute / Sleep Talk
- Ice Punch / Stone Edge / Knock Off
- Earthquake

Sleep Talk can annoy the frack out of Breloom, Gengar, and Milotic. Substitute is there to protect it from damage since it can't take hits that well - even with that HP stat. Close Combat is self explanitory. Stone Edge / Icepunch and Earthquake provide excellent coverage and it hits every pokemon with at least normal effectiveness except for Bronzong, which it already has Close Combat for. Knock Off can tear apart Choiced pokemon and many others.
 
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Azonic said:
Hariyama @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack / 252 HP / 4 Defense
- Close Combat
- Substitute / Sleep Talk
- Ice Punch / Stone Edge / Knock Off
- Earthquake
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Me: Hariyama (M) @ Leftovers ** The Karate Kid
Trait: Guts
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Satk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Knock Off
- Close Combat / Earthquake.

Anti: Or randomly knocking off items, when chances are the item has already been knocked off...
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There you go, Azonic, that's what Anti said when I posted a Set similar to that ;)
 
there's nothing wrong with sleep talk on a CB set. gengar isn't that great of a threat when it has 252 HP evs. the max that Timid max sp atk Gengar can do to 252 HP Adamant Hariyama is 47.8%. yeah, sure that's nearly half, but if there's no one else to absorb sleep, then it's much better than allowing him to sweep your team.

but he really doesn't need CB anyway. switching into status w/ choice items is just something i'm fond of.
 
Hariyama @ Leftovers
40 HP/252 Def/216 SDef -- Careful
Knock Off
Revenge
Counter
Whirlwind

Bulky support.
 
i saw a guy on Youtube use 1 of these

Haryama@toxic orb
ability: guts
252hp/148attack/rest Def
Close Combat
stone-edge
knock-off
protect

w/ guts boost it wuz a monster since it can decently take hits...
 
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