Pokemon EX

[Tanaki]

So out of sheer boredom, I was just wondering what everyone's opinions on the Pokemon EX were? I see a lot of people that say some are terrible and others who say that some are really good and I just wanted to get some feedback.

Here's my thoughts:

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Mewtwo

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The best current EX, and the one dominating the metagame. It's all about who can counter who's Mewtwo until the game ends.

Mew

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A card that can use ANY attack from any pokemon in play. Although you're just running it to counter Mewtwo.

Kyogre

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Prize bait for dem Eelz.

Groudon

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Stamp for bench damage till he dies and cause massive damage.

Rayquaza

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He can do 180 damage, but he messes up your Eel formula by making you run Fire/Prisms. Countered by Rayquazas and Zoroark techs that eliminate the need for fire but now require Zoroark.

Zekrom

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Strong volt for big damage that almost KO's EX's. Glinting Claw makes you want to cry when you HAVE to use it and it fails.

Reshiram

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Nobody runs Typhlosion anymore. And if they do, they had better run Fliptinis and hope they don't flip tails, or Mewtwo will grab up its prize.

Kyurem

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You just kind of look at his attacks and realize he isn't nearly as good as Reshiram or Zekrom. Or even the standard Reshiram and Zekrom. Plenty of pokemon can deal 120 for less energies and use the attack over and over again. And don't cost you 2 prizes.

Raikou

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He can stall and snipe. All I can say is I've never loved Raikou as much as I do now.

Entei

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Burn is irrelevant with easy retreats and switches, and his energy boosting limits him to self-inclusive strategies in a fire deck.

Regigigas

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Gigas goes with every deck. He does a solid jab, and destroys anything that fails to land a KO with an intense revenge blow.

Registeel

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Dealing 30 to 3 pokemon for CCC destroys Eels. Psychic resistance makes him a pain for Mewtwo to KO. Special Metal Energy and Eviolite reduce the damage it takes. I sense a top-tier borderline rotation deck here.

Ho-Oh

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A little awkward to use, but it can revive itself on its own and come out swinging for at least 80 damage, granted you have 3 different basic energies discarded.

Giratina

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Grass and Psychic Energy costs drag this guy down. GPCC for 130 and discarding the top 3 of your deck is also a slap in the face. A near-impossible setup and it's not even the top 3 of your opponent's deck?

Also Rayquaza.

Darkrai

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Runs a pretty self-inclusive deck around Dark with lots of free retreat, and hits pretty hard with 90 and 30 to 1 bench for DDC, but EX-toolboxes will most likely overwhelm Dark, especially once junk arms are gone.

Tornadus

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Eel bait. Impossibly hard turn 1 not donking for DCE and having to have a stadium in play against EX pokemon with no weakness to normal being had, this guy is terrible.

Shaymin

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Useful as a last resort, but that's it. It's really easy to KO, but doing 30+ 30 for each prize your opponent has taken, and 150-180 is a death sentence for any EX... that doesn't have Eviolite. Although with tool scrapper this card is a guaranteed victory.

Terrakion

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FFC to do 90 and attach 2 energies from hand to your pokemon... this guy should wreck through Eels. Although The standard Terrakion is just much more practical overall.

What are your thoughts on EX pokemon, in terms of best and worst? I'd have to say overall Registeel is the best and worst is tied between Kyogre and Giratina.

 

[Coo Samurai]

[SIZE="a"]Wow lots of Ex pokemon listed good reaserch!:)[/SIZE]

[SIZE="a"]But i think kyogre isnt the worst but its definitly not the best[/SIZE]

 

[woolman]

I like ex cards

[SIZE="a"]I like all the ex cards like zekrom reshiram Kyurem mewtwo and mew ex there all good cards but I like mewtwo ex it is really cool but it only has 170 hp witch is not good at all.[/SIZE]

 

[Tanaki]

[SIZE="a"]But i think kyogre isnt the worst but its definitly not the best[/SIZE]

I love Kyogre and all and we go way back to the days of me playing Sapphire, but his EX is just awful. If the card had a substantial attack it would at least be worth considering in a deck. It has no real type advantage in the current or upcoming format. WC for 30 and a forced switch is just weak, and it doesn't get past catcher. And even for the WWC to do 50 to 2 pokemon, Kyurem(NV) can do 30 to everything in play, it doesn't have the type disadvantage in Eel matchups and doesn't give up 2 prizes. Giratina is only on par because its energy requirements are horrible; and for attacks that aren't even good.

I think the most Redeeming part about Kyogre EX is that the full art looks cool. And I want it for that reason alone.

 

[Coo Samurai]

[SIZE="a"]Yeah i started with that region and got hooked after ruby[/SIZE]

[SIZE="a"]And i used to have an ex kyogre but my mom lost it when she was reading our" quote of the day" she took it away from me so yeahhhh[/SIZE]

 

[donavannj]

Regigigas EX would be a very good card in this format if it weren't for the fact that seemingly everyone is running Mewtwo EX.

 

[Tanaki]

Regigigas EX would be a very good card in this format if it weren't for the fact that seemingly everyone is running Mewtwo EX.

True. Gigas isn't bad, though. The mistake that a lot of people make is not effectively using its attacks properly and using eviolite to its advantage. Its first attack is its bread and butter, since 80 damage is enough to put most any EX in range to be KO'd, and with a pluspower it hits Eels for KO. If you don't over-energize it or let it hit itself for 20 too often, it can last several turns against a Mewtwo. It's all in how you play it.

 

[AquaticWartortle]

I still like Kyogre EX even though it's not the best by far. Though I am considering it for a deck...

 

[LEXAcide]

speaking of EX's and such...

I went to the Dark Explorers Prerelease just yesterday and made the WORST decision of my LIFE!

Good news is that I pulled a full body art Groudon EX!

Bad news is that a random druggie there asked me if I wanted to buy his Raikou EX full body art for $10!!!

I didn't know of it's value and I told him no. I hit myself over that decision a lot since then...

I'm pissed!

 

[donavannj]

speaking of EX's and such...

I went to the Dark Explorers Prerelease just yesterday and made the WORST decision of my LIFE!

Good news is that I pulled a full body art Groudon EX!

Bad news is that a random druggie there asked me if I wanted to buy his Raikou EX full body art for $10!!!

I didn't know of it's value and I told him no. I hit myself over that decision a lot since then...

I'm pissed!

This thread is for discussion of which EX you think is best, not for your stories pertaining to EXes! We have a couple stickies for posting tournament reports and posting booster pack pulls, though! And, yes, prereleases do count as tournaments for the sake of the tournament report thread.

 

[Overlord Drakow]

In general, I like the overall impact EX cards have on the game. It makes Pokemon battles quicker which I think is a good thing because in other formats, games could take a while.

Darkrai is my favourite EX for obvious reasons. It's also a very solid card with a large amount of HP, an ability which practically gets rid of the requirement to run Switch and weakens the effectiveness of opposing Catchers and a pretty good attack which can pressurise the bench as well as dealing heavy damage to main threats.

Mewtwo again is a solid card and so are Zekrom and Raikou EX. These are the four EX Pokemon which should see the most play in our metagame.

Kyogre is the worst EX in my opinion as well.

 

[TURDCANNON]

Regigigas EX would be a very good card in this format if it weren't for the fact that seemingly everyone is running Mewtwo EX.

Gigas is too good, even with Mewtwo around. He easily takes 2 prizes before he gives his.

 

[donavannj]

Gigas is too good, even with Mewtwo around. He easily takes 2 prizes before he gives his.

That's partially because people are figuring out how to play it properly when a Mewtwo enters play.

 

[TURDCANNON]

I don't really see why Mewtwo would ever be a threat to Gigas. Mewtwo would need 5 energy to ohko a fully loaded, un-Eviolited Gigas and if a Mewtwo with 2 energy attacks into a Gigas with the intent to 2ko it Gigas can Raging Hammer and kill it. (assuming no Eviolite on either of them)

 

[donavannj]

I don't really see why Mewtwo would ever be a threat to Gigas. Mewtwo would need 5 energy to ohko a fully loaded, un-Eviolited Gigas and if a Mewtwo with 2 energy attacks into a Gigas with the intent to 2ko it Gigas can Raging Hammer and kill it. (assuming no Eviolite on either of them)

DCEs, Eels, and/or Gardevoir all accelerate how fast Mewtwo can be powered up. There's a reason its value was over $50 a month ago, and it wasn't just because it was tournament season and it looks cool. It fit really well into anything that ran Eels because it could be used as a easily charged trump card that countered all the Pokemon with high energy requirements in the format by using those energy requirements against them.

And then there's the fact that the Mewtwo player can just bide their time until they have enough energy attached to make the OHKO, provided they're running the right energy acceleration.

 

[TURDCANNON]

I'm not saying Mewtwo isn't good I'm simply saying he's not a threat to gigas. Biding their time and building up energy is nice and all but the Gigas player, who is usually playing cmt, can just drop a Mewtwo, switch into it, and X-ball to KO the Mewtwo or just catcher around it and take a couple of prizes.

 

[donavannj]

What I'm getting at is that it's a threat if it's played properly. Regigas isn't exclusively run in CMT, and the Gigas player won't always have a Switch to switch into a Mewtwo, or for that matter a Mewtwo that is ready to go, which would result in 2 prizes lost either way if the Mewtwo they plan to switch into isn't ready to go. Same goes for not always having a Catcher available, especially if it's early in the game. From a cold start, it's a 3-turn KO for either 'mon if both players play the matchup right but have no other options.