Pokemon Sun & Moon Anime speculation and expectation!

[Famon]

If The New Anime has a new Love-interest for Ash then I hope its someone prettier then May and really hard to get.
Maybe , It will be a new girl with pink hair.

If Alola doesn't have gym then there is no point in Ash losing kalos league .
Because kids might be less interested in this series because there is no league.
However , If Ash already wins the league then it will not bother anyone.

Unlike Bulma, however, Misty actually HAD an ongoing goal that REQUIRED being active, being a Water Pok?mon Master. And besides, the narration explicitly called her a hero ("our heroes continue their journey." Had it been me writing it and I wanted to make clear Ash was the sole main protagonist, I would have had the narrator say "Our hero and his sidekicks continue their main journey."). And yes, Misty DID have a goal.

Bulma also had her goal for Dragonball !
You think Misty's different because she's Misty But she wasn't.
In fact , Misty goal wasn't exploit until the 2nd half of Jotho journey.

Actually, Bandai's List is pretty much one of the more reliable lists indicating an anime's merchandising popularity. IrregularMaverick would know since he's very knowledgable of Japanese culture.

Expect Pokemon has its own Company for Merchandising !
IrregularMeverick just a guy with opinion , he didn't shown any list or source for his claim.

I'll look at that Tumblr link, but I still doubt it, especially when it doesn't even match up with the ratings. Smells fishy, especially when ratings are often what gauges a show's survivability, especially regarding sales which are directly tied to advertisements during that.

Have you cheek the Source he given bellow ? From Ann/Anime!biz
Or Maybe , you should cheek this --
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/in...itable-anime-april-2015-to-march-2016/.102927
Reliable enough for you !
Rating doesn't decide anything , Sales does .
Even Serebiiform announce that .

If it was in the top five ratings in sales, they would be in the top five of ratings as well, because ratings also allow for profit from the commercials that air during that time. My uncle teaches advertisement and my aunt works for an ad agency, so I would know from them. In fact, that's actually one of the biggest reasons why ratings are such an important factor.

That's not how profit works ! Its just your freaking opinion .
Sales and rating two different thing.
Rating only decide how many people watching the show on TV !
However due to online streaming , Many people doesn't watch TV anymore.
So , many popular anime would have lesser rating because many people aren't watching it on TV.
But Just because people doesn't watch Anime on TV , That doesn't mean they will not buy its merchandise.
There is only two important thing for TV anime - 1) Merchandising 2) DVD Sales .
Pokemon make plenty of Merchandise sales so its doesn't even need DVD Sales.

When you show mercy to someone, even if it's fake mercy to manipulate them, they generally end up submitting to you anyway. It's machiavellan.

You do know your talking about Giovanni and Mewtwo !
Mewtwo will not be trick twice Giovanni and he will not join Giovanni goal of world conquest since he already gain the sense of right and wrong.
While Giovanni is not your typical loving Kind Man who can have mercy on people.
Shseese , Its like I'm talking to a 6 year old kid that never stop asking Why.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

If The New Anime has a new Love-interest for Ash then I hope its someone prettier then May and really hard to get.
Maybe , It will be a new girl with pink hair.

If Alola doesn't have gym then there is no point in Ash losing kalos league .
Because kids might be less interested in this series because there is no league.
However , If Ash already wins the league then it will not bother anyone.

Agreed on that last bit.

Bulma also had her goal for Dragonball !
You think Misty's different because she's Misty But she wasn't.
In fact , Misty goal wasn't exploit until the 2nd half of Jotho journey.

Actually, Misty's goal had heavily been alluded to since Tentacool and Tentacruel, and possibly even Bulbasaur and the Hidden Village.

Also, Bulma only had a goal during the Emperor Pilaf saga when she was hunting for the Dragon Balls so she'd find a guy (either that, or wish for strawberries). After that, she stopped having any goal exclusive to her, having given up on it.

Expect Pokemon has its own Company for Merchandising !
IrregularMeverick just a guy with opinion , he didn't shown any list or source for his claim.

Actually, he did. And you should know, since you actually agreed with him many times on that subject during that time. I'd give you the link, but for some reason, the search function's been disabled. When it comes back on, I'll supply you with the links he provided. I will give you a hint as to where the link was: It was on the first part of the Pok?mon ratings series of threads (that reminds me, I really need to make sure I get all the ratings that due to Poke245 being a noshow didn't get posted).

Have you cheek the Source he given bellow ? From Ann/Anime!biz
Or Maybe , you should cheek this --
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/in...itable-anime-april-2015-to-march-2016/.102927
Reliable enough for you !
Rating doesn't decide anything , Sales does .
Even Serebiiform announce that .

Except ratings are what DETERMINE sales. You can't have higher sales if your ratings are bad, especially not in Japan when they don't even HAVE an online streaming service. It might work for countries outside Japan, but Japan itself cannot, especially considering Hulu basically was a bust in that region, thus all but ensuring Japan cannot stream on the internet. Also, if we go by sales, Pok?mon only barely made it to the top 5, which isn't exactly all that good.

That's not how profit works ! Its just your freaking opinion .
Sales and rating two different thing.
Rating only decide how many people watching the show on TV !
However due to online streaming , Many people doesn't watch TV anymore.
So , many popular anime would have lesser rating because many people aren't watching it on TV.
But Just because people doesn't watch Anime on TV , That doesn't mean they will not buy its merchandise.
There is only two important thing for TV anime - 1) Merchandising 2) DVD Sales .
Pokemon make plenty of Merchandise sales so its doesn't even need DVD Sales.

Actually, both my uncle and aunt (who teach marketing and run an ad agency, respectively, and in fact, the latter had been one of his students) made pretty clear that ratings definitely affect the profitability of a show, meaning if it's low ratings, it has low profitability. I made sure to ask them on that front, and they told me. And considering it would literally be their business to know about profitability and ratings that's not even opinion mine or yours, but fact.

And like I said, as soon as this site's search engine is functional again, I WILL supply you with the list on Bandai's List that IrregularMaverick (that's the only reason I'm not able to give you the link). It's back from 2014 though.

And actually, the online streamings wouldn't even be a factor since Japan doesn't even have a Hulu-type streaming service due to Hulu itself bombing there. Can't use online streamings as a factor for the plummeting of Japanese ratings when the service doesn't even exist in Japan. And even if they were, both Poke245 and IrregularMaverick have verified that the online viewings of Pok?mon XY are actually very poor, so they STILL wouldn't work. And I'm not even sure if online viewings really have all that much of an impact on ratings. NCIS had very high ratings, for example, being within the 20s at most, and that was DESPITE the online viewings both on the CBS app and off that record.

You do know your talking about Giovanni and Mewtwo !
Mewtwo will not be trick twice Giovanni and he will not join Giovanni goal of world conquest since he already gain the sense of right and wrong.
While Giovanni is not your typical loving Kind Man who can have mercy on people.
Shseese , Its like I'm talking to a 6 year old kid that never stop asking Why.

Ash and friends also have a firm knowledge of right and wrong, yet they got tricked by a disguised Team Rocket multiple times, even Brock who was supposed to be the smart guy. Do you really think Mewtwo having a moral compass would be able to NOT fall for that if the show's protagonists couldn't do that with some of Giovanni's henchmen. In fact, Mewtwo still fell for Giovanni's lies despite the very likely fact that he was able to read minds.

 

[Famon]

Agreed on that last bit.



Actually, Misty's goal had heavily been alluded to since Tentacool and Tentacruel, and possibly even Bulbasaur and the Hidden Village.

Also, Bulma only had a goal during the Emperor Pilaf saga when she was hunting for the Dragon Balls so she'd find a guy (either that, or wish for strawberries). After that, she stopped having any goal exclusive to her, having given up on it.

Misty only express her love for Water pokemon in Kento and Orange leagne ! She never fully exploit her goal until the 2nd half of Jotho.
But she was still treated like Sidekick , Her goal never got any focus until at the end of Jotho journey where she competed in Whirl Cup.
But since it was her last series , Writers probably wanted a rap up her story .
Even Iris was treated like Sidekick , At least May is the protagonist of the game.

Actually, he did. And you should know, since you actually agreed with him many times on that subject during that time. I'd give you the link, but for some reason, the search function's been disabled. When it comes back on, I'll supply you with the links he provided. I will give you a hint as to where the link was: It was on the first part of the Pok?mon ratings series of threads (that reminds me, I really need to make sure I get all the ratings that due to Poke245 being a noshow didn't get posted).

THE LINK DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE HE GAVE YOU AN UNRELIBLE SOURCE !
Currently , I have source from Anime News network and Anime-biz that put pokemon in one of Top 5 spot for most profitable anime .
Just because you think Anime can't be popular without Rating , Doesn't mean your right.
Poke246 and IrregularMaverick are just member , That doesn't decide anything .
But TV-Tokyo airs anime , Their source far more believable then 2 member with their own freaking OPINION.

And actually, the online streamings wouldn't even be a factor since Japan doesn't even have a Hulu-type streaming service due to Hulu itself bombing there. Can't use online streamings as a factor for the plummeting of Japanese ratings when the service doesn't even exist in Japan. And even if they were, both Poke245 and IrregularMaverick have verified that the online viewings of Pok?mon XY are actually very poor, so they STILL wouldn't work. And I'm not even sure if online viewings really have all that much of an impact on ratings. NCIS had very high ratings, for example, being within the 20s at most, and that was DESPITE the online viewings both on the CBS app and off that record.

I DON'T CARE WHAT POKE246 AND IRREGULARMAVERICK SAYS ! I CARE WHAT TV-TOKYO SAYS AND IT CLAIM POKEMON TO BE ONE OF 5 MOST PROFITABLE ANIME.

What ? Are you claim that they are lying ? That the source form Anime-biz and ANN are false ? Only You , Poke246 and IrregularMaverick are right and everyone is wrong?

Rating only decide how many people watchs Anime on TV ? Japan may not have Hulu but they have other services from streaming.
In fact , A lot of popular anime doesn't have ratings at all yet they are popular .
Why do you think everyone claim OnePunchMan to be a hit popular anime ? Have you even seen any episode of OnePunchMan in Top 10 list of Japanese TV ranking.

Actually, both my uncle and aunt (who teach marketing and run an ad agency, respectively, and in fact, the latter had been one of his students) made pretty clear that ratings definitely affect the profitability of a show, meaning if it's low ratings, it has low profitability. I made sure to ask them on that front, and they told me. And considering it would literally be their business to know about profitability and ratings that's not even opinion mine or yours, but fact.

And like I said, as soon as this site's search engine is functional again, I WILL supply you with the list on Bandai's List that IrregularMaverick (that's the only reason I'm not able to give you the link). It's back from 2014 though.

Whatever Your uncle said was about American Program like "The 100 " or "Big Bang Theory" ! We are talking about Japanese anime on Japanese Television .

Currently , You just have opinion While I actually have fact , proof and Source .
Stop win an argument that you already lost.

Except ratings are what DETERMINE sales. You can't have higher sales if your ratings are bad, especially not in Japan when they don't even HAVE an online streaming service. It might work for countries outside Japan, but Japan itself cannot, especially considering Hulu basically was a bust in that region, thus all but ensuring Japan cannot stream on the internet. Also, if we go by sales, Pok?mon only barely made it to the top 5, which isn't exactly all that good.

Rating only decide how many people watching the show on TV , It never determine Sales.
That's why Most anime on Top selling DVD are lesser rating one.
In fact , there are many many anime merchandise of anime that has less rating .

Ash and friends also have a firm knowledge of right and wrong, yet they got tricked by a disguised Team Rocket multiple times, even Brock who was supposed to be the smart guy. Do you really think Mewtwo having a moral compass would be able to NOT fall for that if the show's protagonists couldn't do that with some of Giovanni's henchmen. In fact, Mewtwo still fell for Giovanni's lies despite the very likely fact that he was able to read minds.

Ash and Co never get trick into doing bad thing.
Furthermore , Mewtwo is far too smart and capable of reading mind !
He will not let his guard down and be Giovanni henchman again !

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Misty only express her love for Water pokemon in Kento and Orange leagne ! She never fully exploit her goal until the 2nd half of Jotho.
But she was still treated like Sidekick , Her goal never got any focus until at the end of Jotho journey where she competed in Whirl Cup.
But since it was her last series , Writers probably wanted a rap up her story .
Even Iris was treated like Sidekick , At least May is the protagonist of the game.

No, if she were treated as a sidekick, the writers would have been more explicit in the narration, like having the narrator every episode saying "Our hero and his sidekicks are continuing their journey," instead of "Our heroes", which basically dissuades the idea that she's a sidekick. And BTW, she actually saved the day most of the time, AND she was essentially responsible for getting Ash through several troubles. She's not a sidekick. At best, she's a mentor. Same deal with Iris, though in her case, she's not a mentor.

And for the record, she also had a fangirlish attitude to Prima, an Elite 4 member, and she's also attempted her goal in Bulbasaur and the Hidden Village. Heck, she even MENTIONED her goal in the episode where she captured Horsea.

THE LINK DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE HE GAVE YOU AN UNRELIBLE SOURCE !
Currently , I have source from Anime News network and Anime-biz that put pokemon in one of Top 5 spot for most profitable anime .
Just because you think Anime can't be popular without Rating , Doesn't mean your right.
Poke246 and IrregularMaverick are just member , That doesn't decide anything .
But TV-Tokyo airs anime , Their source far more believable then 2 member with their own freaking OPINION.

NBC also said that 30 Rock was their highest rated show, yet a good look at the ratings actually proved that if anything it was their lowest rated show. Besides, TVTropes also noted that XY was not doing too hot in Japan (if anything, it has far better reception in America than in Japan. Read "Germans Love Daniel Hasselhoff".). I'll even quote it for you:

Germans Love David Hasselhoff: The Western fandom mostly has high praise for XY, while the Japanese viewers are mostly bored with it and the anime franchise altogether.

Source: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/PokemonAnime

Also, I was referring to the search engine on this site, not search engines in general. For whatever reason, Pokecommunity disabled it's search abilities, and you can't even review your own posts because of it.

I DON'T CARE WHAT POKE246 AND IRREGULARMAVERICK SAYS ! I CARE WHAT TV-TOKYO SAYS AND IT CLAIM POKEMON TO BE ONE OF 5 MOST PROFITABLE ANIME.

Yeah, and NBC claimed that 30 Rock was one of its most rated shows, yet this proves otherwise: https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2012/04/27/30-rock-makes-blackface-okay-again/

What ? Are you claim that they are lying ? That the source form Anime-biz and ANN are false ? Only You , Poke246 and IrregularMaverick are right and everyone is wrong?

I'm saying we should take these claims with a grain of salt since networks can claim even the lowest rated show is actually a hit even when, by all logic, it's not. Like 30 Rock for example.

Rating only decide how many people watchs Anime on TV ? Japan may not have Hulu but they have other services from streaming.
In fact , A lot of popular anime doesn't have ratings at all yet they are popular .
Why do you think everyone claim OnePunchMan to be a hit popular anime ? Have you even seen any episode of OnePunchMan in Top 10 list of Japanese TV ranking.

Actually, based on what Poke245 stated, Japan doesn't do Hulu, Netflix, or ANY streaming. And for the record, even if they did, Poke245 even noted it's not even among the most viewed on the online streaming sites, and he even posted the links to prove it.

Whatever Your uncle said was about American Program like "The 100 " or "Big Bang Theory" ! We are talking about Japanese anime on Japanese Television .

Actually, he said this regarding Pokémon's ratings, and I even showed him the Japanese ratings as well.

Currently , You just have opinion While I actually have fact , proof and Source .
Stop win an argument that you already lost.

I cited my sources as well, among others. Also, proof and source are the same thing, and I DID provide my proof and source.

Rating only decide how many people watching the show on TV , It never determine Sales.
That's why Most anime on Top selling DVD are lesser rating one.
In fact , there are many many anime merchandise of anime that has less rating .

If people don't watch it, how can they even sell them? You don't sell something that people don't have a vested interest in or have even heard of. It's like selling merchandise for a Uwe Boll movie or claiming it's one of the most popular franchises. And just because it sells merchandise doesn't mean it's popular. Battlefield Earth, believe it or not, actually HAD a toy and merchandise line. Battlefield Earth, the movie that was infamous for being one of the worst movies ever made.

Ash and Co never get trick into doing bad thing.
Furthermore , Mewtwo is far too smart and capable of reading mind !
He will not let his guard down and be Giovanni henchman again !

Yeah, and he also was capable of reading minds back in the first movie, he still got tricked by him anyways.

 

[Famon]

No, if she were treated as a sidekick, the writers would have been more explicit in the narration, like having the narrator every episode saying "Our hero and his sidekicks are continuing their journey," instead of "Our heroes", which basically dissuades the idea that she's a sidekick. And BTW, she actually saved the day most of the time, AND she was essentially responsible for getting Ash through several troubles. She's not a sidekick. At best, she's a mentor. Same deal with Iris, though in her case, she's not a mentor.

And for the record, she also had a fangirlish attitude to Prima, an Elite 4 member, and she's also attempted her goal in Bulbasaur and the Hidden Village. Heck, she even MENTIONED her goal in the episode where she captured Horsea.

Oh , The Narrator should started with Our Hero Ash and his 2 sidekicks
Get real , It isn't that 1st time when narrator refer both protagonist and his sidekicks as heros .
Furthermore Gwen saved Ben multiple time and lector him like Misty But Gwen wasn't the protagonist of Ben 10.
Or Makuto from Idaten Jump who also has identical personality and role as Misty but she wasn't the protagonist.
In fact , Many many Battle related Cartoon or anime has a girl like Misty with her own dream and lecture the protagonist but they aren't the protagonist.
Even Yuzu isn't the protagonist of Yugioh Arc-V desptie playing a major role .

FYI : Misty only express her love for Water pokemon in Horsea episode ! She didn't reveal any goal.

NBC also said that 30 Rock was their highest rated show, yet a good look at the ratings actually proved that if anything it was their lowest rated show. Besides, TVTropes also noted that XY was not doing too hot in Japan (if anything, it has far better reception in America than in Japan. Read "Germans Love Daniel Hasselhoff".). I'll even quote it for you:

You do know that 30 Rock is a major award winning show and considered one of 30 best comedy

Spoiler:

From Wikipedia
30 Rock received overwhelming critical acclaim throughout its entire run, winning several major awards (including Primetime Emmy Awards for Outstanding Comedy Series in 2007, 2008, and 2009 and nominations for every other year it ran), and achieving the esteemed top ranking on myriad critics' year-end best of 2006-2013 lists.[2] On July 14, 2009, the series was nominated for 22 Primetime Emmy Awards, the most in a single year for a comedy series.[9] Over the course of the series, it was nominated for 103 Primetime Emmy Awards and won 16,[10] in addition to numerous other nominations and wins from other awards shows. Despite the high praise, the series struggled in the ratings throughout its run,[11] something of which Fey herself has made light.[12]


In 2009, Comedy Central and WGN America bought the syndication rights to the show, which began airing on both networks on September 19, 2011;[13] the series also entered into local broadcast syndication on the same day.[14] Today, 30 Rock is regarded as a landmark series.[15][16][17][18] Its series finale in particular has been named as one of the greatest in television history by several publications.[19][20][21] In 2013, the Writers Guild of America named 30 Rock the 21st best-written television series of all time.[17]

So , There is no wonder why NBC called 30 rock as a high rated series .
Just because Season 7 or 6 might have lower rating , that doesn't change the series overall popularity

Source: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/PokemonAnime

Also, I was referring to the search engine on this site, not search engines in general. For whatever reason, Pokecommunity disabled it's search abilities, and you can't even review your own posts because of it.

Ether way , You don't have any official source to support your claim.

Yeah, and NBC claimed that 30 Rock was one of its most rated shows, yet this proves otherwise: https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2012/04/27/30-rock-makes-blackface-okay-again/

That just another blog of some other guy with his own freaking opinion.
He claimed that Nobody watches 30 rock which is a BIG FAT LIE since 30 rock has 2.8 million viewer.

Spoiler:

From Wikipedia

The seventh season premiere, "The Beginning of the End", drew 3.5 million viewers,[24] both a significant decrease from the sixth season premiere, "Dance Like Nobody's Watching" (4.5 million),[25] and a significant increase over the sixth season finale, "What Will Happen to the Gang Next Year?" (2.8 million).[26] The third episode of the season, "Stride of Pride", was the lowest-rated in overall viewers, with 3.0 million tuning in,[27] although it was not a series low, a position which continues to be held by the sixth season episode "Nothing Left to Lose", which was seen by 2.8 million.[28] Several episodes demonstrated season highs, with "Mazel Tov, Dummies!" drawing 3.6 million,[29] and "Game Over" and "A Goon's Deed in a Weary World" drawing slightly below and above 3.8 million, respectively.[30][31] These three episodes also, in turn, demonstrated the best overall viewership for 30 Rock since March 2012.[32][33][34]
The series finale, the hour-long broadcast of "Hogcock!" and "Last Lunch", attracted an audience of 4.9 million,[35] demonstrating another season high in overall viewers[36] and an increase of two million viewers over the sixth season finale.[36] These two episodes were also the highest-rated of the series, in overall viewers, for two years.[36] Overall, with the inclusion of DVR viewership, the season averaged 4.6 million viewers,[37] even with the previous season.[38] However, it ranked ninety-ninth for the year, against all other primetime network programming, a thirty-one place improvement over the sixth season.[37][38]

I'm saying we should take these claims with a grain of salt since networks can claim even the lowest rated show is actually a hit even when, by all logic, it's not. Like 30 Rock for example.

Except , My source came from the Financial chart of TV-Tokyo.
And 30 rock is a very popular show and probably highest rated when NBC claimed it.

Actually, based on what Poke245 stated, Japan doesn't do Hulu, Netflix, or ANY streaming. And for the record, even if they did, Poke245 even noted it's not even among the most viewed on the online streaming sites, and he even posted the links to prove it.

My country doesn't have streaming site but that doesn't stop me from watching Anime.
I can watch Pokemon on youtube if I want too.

Actually, he said this regarding Pokémon's ratings, and I even showed him the Japanese ratings as well.

And I showed page from that very site that confirm Pokemon to be one of 5 most profitable anime on TV-Tokyo.
However , You choose to ignore it because it doesn't support you.

If people don't watch it, how can they even sell them? You don't sell something that people don't have a vested interest in or have even heard of. It's like selling merchandise for a Uwe Boll movie or claiming it's one of the most popular franchises. And just because it sells merchandise doesn't mean it's popular. Battlefield Earth, believe it or not, actually HAD a toy and merchandise line. Battlefield Earth, the movie that was infamous for being one of the worst movies ever made.

People simply doesn't watch pokemon on TV however there are many people who played pokemon game , read pokemon comics and watch pokemon online.
Furthermore , Many kids who watched Pokemon are now adult who buy pokemon toys for their Kids.
Digimon Xros war had the lowest rating But it made such a big Sales that it had another squeal called Digimon Hunter.

It proves how Anime make sales without rating !

Yeah, and he also was capable of reading minds back in the first movie, he still got tricked by him anyways.

Yet he read the mind of those scientist and killed them.
Mewtwo will not make the 2nd mistake of trusting Giovanni twice ! Specially when he knows what type of organization Team Rocket really is.

I cited my sources as well, among others. Also, proof and source are the same thing, and I DID provide my proof and source.

You didn't provide anything !
You kept on shouting What IrregulaMerick and Poke246 said ! Even though they are just member like you and me.
Now , Your trying using TV-tropes that claim Dekisugi to be Shizuka's future husband and Nobita stole her from him (Doreamon) .
Find something official like Mine and then come to argue.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Oh , The Narrator should started with Our Hero Ash and his 2 sidekicks
Get real , It isn't that 1st time when narrator refer both protagonist and his sidekicks as heros .

Except a hero is NOT a sidekick, and if you're going to do that, you need to be VERY precise in your words. Heck, Sky High even made clear the distinctions between a hero and a sidekick.

FYI : Misty only express her love for Water pokemon in Horsea episode ! She didn't reveal any goal.

She said, and I quote, "And I call myself a Water Pokémon Trainer..." when she realized what Horsea was trying to tell them all along (and based on what Dogasu aside, calling Horsea male aside, the whole exchange was indeed in the Japanese version as well).

You do know that 30 Rock is a major award winning show and considered one of 30 best comedy

Spoiler:

So , There is no wonder why NBC called 30 rock as a high rated series .
Just because Season 7 or 6 might have lower rating , that doesn't change the series overall popularity



Ether way , You don't have any official source to support your claim.



That just another blog of some other guy with his own freaking opinion.
He claimed that Nobody watches 30 rock which is a BIG FAT LIE since 30 rock has 2.8 million viewer.

Spoiler:

2.8 million viewers is actually pretty low ratings (even lower than Pokémon, currently). You want high ratings? Try NCIS, which generally is in the 20 million mark, and that's just within recent seasons (which are about to be 14 come September).

And it's not a "blog", it's a conservative news site. It's like calling CBS Evening News a blog, even though that show's reputation's spotty right now.

As far as winning awards, you ARE aware that there have been plenty of bad movies and shows that got awards simply because the people who gave them just liked it's political agenda and NOT for the content of its story, right? For example, the Master won several academy awards, enough that they actually had to avoid giving it all the awards simply because it won enough as it was. Both Lionel Chetwynd and Roger Simon (who work in Hollywood AND had some involvement in the Academy Award system) panned the movie and even stated pretty convincing arguments for why it was bad. Don't believe me, just watch this video:

https://pjmedia.com/blog/poliwood-takes-on-the-master/

In fact, the Oscars are so infamous for buying awards that it's actually a common saying that the Oscars are only there right now so Liberals can pat themselves on the back for promoting various causes. Besides, by your logic, "Butterfly" must have been a good film just because its lead won a Golden Globe, which was only because her husband bribed them. And don't get me started on Blue is the Warmest Color, which only won the Sundance festival because the judges there turned out to be huge supporters of Gay Marriage (the fact that France had just recently legalized gay marriage didn't help either), when it was little better than your standard porn flick, and even the people who starred the film utterly hated the experience and deeply regretted it.

Except , My source came from the Financial chart of TV-Tokyo.
And 30 rock is a very popular show and probably highest rated when NBC claimed it.

Breitbart claimed otherwise, however, regarding 30 Rock. And it winning awards simply doesn't cut it, especially when right now, they tend to give awards for political reasons rather than actual content.

My country doesn't have streaming site but that doesn't stop me from watching Anime.
I can watch Pokemon on youtube if I want too.

You do realize Youtube tends to remove episodes from its site due to copyright infringement, right?

And I showed page from that very site that confirm Pokemon to be one of 5 most profitable anime on TV-Tokyo.
However , You choose to ignore it because it doesn't support you.

No, I ignored it because I have enough cynicism of the industry regarding lying about their show to take it with a grain of salt. You want a show I don't like right now yet is STILL getting high ratings even with bad quality? Try Family Guy or even The Simpsons. In fact, a lot of people don't like Family Guy right now specifically BECAUSE of some of it's current actions right now.

People simply doesn't watch pokemon on TV however there are many people who played pokemon game , read pokemon comics and watch pokemon online.
Furthermore , Many kids who watched Pokemon are now adult who buy pokemon toys for their Kids.
Digimon Xros war had the lowest rating But it made such a big Sales that it had another squeal called Digimon Hunter.

It proves how Anime make sales without rating !

They might gain the games, but that's independent of the actual anime and thus should NOT be used as a measuring stick. Don't forget, Mario, Sonic, Zelda, and Mega Man had TV shows promoting their games, as did Donkey Kong Country, yet when those were cancelled, they had absolutely no impact on the games. And for the record, the comics aren't actually impacted by the anime either, not unless it's something like a manga/graphic novel adaptation of one of the Pokémon movies and/or was an animanga for an episode.

And Poke245 already confirmed that the online viewings for Pokémon were a bust as well (for goodness sakes, My Little Pony gets more viewership even online than Pokémon does).

Yet he read the mind of those scientist and killed them.
Mewtwo will not make the 2nd mistake of trusting Giovanni twice ! Specially when he knows what type of organization Team Rocket really is.

Yeah, if he read minds, he would have killed Giovanni the very second they met. That's what I would have done. Read his mind, noticed his words weren't in sync with his mind, then cause his head to explode and blow up his chopper.

You didn't provide anything !
You kept on shouting What IrregulaMerick and Poke246 said ! Even though they are just member like you and me.
Now , Your trying using TV-tropes that claim Dekisugi to be Shizuka's future husband and Nobita stole her from him (Doreamon) .
Find something official like Mine and then come to argue.

I cited Breitbart, I cited Anime News Network's Top 10 ratings, I cited PJMedia in this post, and I also referenced the time where Golden Globes. Last I checked, that IS providing sources and proof. Heck, I even linked them. I haven't actually gotten to citing Bandai's List yet, though, only because accessing old posts is down at the moment.

Also, I never used TVTropes to claim that about Doraemon. Stop making stuff up. I DID, however, cite TVTropes regarding Germans Love Daniel Hasselhoff in regards to the little amount of popularity the Pokémon anime has in Japan currently.

Edit: Okay, the posts are back up, kind of, and I did manage to search for the XY Ratings first part.

Here's the post:

https://www.pokecommunity.com/posts/8556080

I made a mistake, he didn't post the link in that page, though he certainly seemed to know a lot about this one, the Bandai/Cross Marketing survey. For starters, until BW, Pokémon consistently ranked Top 5 in the Bandai/Cross Marketing survey, even in AG which had less than stellar ratings. However, it eventually plummeted, and the only time it managed to rank high on that survey was the N episode. After that, it generally declined to 8th place at best, and that was back in 2014.

 

[J Ken]

I hope they give Ash a Rowlet and possibly a Popplio, though if they give him Popplio I hope it doesn't become Piplup 4.0 and at the very least gets to be more unique.

 

[Famon]

Except a hero is NOT a sidekick, and if you're going to do that, you need to be VERY precise in your words. Heck, Sky High even made clear the distinctions between a hero and a sidekick.

Who said Sidekicks can be hero ? Robin become hero even before leaving batman and becoming Nightwing.
However , There is a difference between Protagonist and sidekick .
Even a non-cast character can become a hero but a protagonist is always the protagonist.

She said, and I quote, "And I call myself a Water Pokémon Trainer..." when she realized what Horsea was trying to tell them all along (and based on what Dogasu aside, calling Horsea male aside, the whole exchange was indeed in the Japanese version as well).

This is coming from a guy who claim that Gardenia doesn't want to be grass pokemon Specialist , she's just a gym leader who loves Grass pokemon.
Misty called herself a Water pokemon trainer because she came from an Water pokemon Gym. That still didn't confirmed her goal .

2.8 million viewers is actually pretty low ratings (even lower than Pokémon, currently). You want high ratings? Try NCIS, which generally is in the 20 million mark, and that's just within recent seasons (which are about to be 14 come September).

That's still bigger then "Nobody " .

And it's not a "blog", it's a conservative news site. It's like calling CBS Evening News a blog, even though that show's reputation's spotty right now.

However , That news were simply a guy posting his opinion as he didn't show prof or source of his information.

As far as winning awards, you ARE aware that there have been plenty of bad movies and shows that got awards simply because the people who gave them just liked it's political agenda and NOT for the content of its story, right? For example, the Master won several academy awards, enough that they actually had to avoid giving it all the awards simply because it won enough as it was. Both Lionel Chetwynd and Roger Simon (who work in Hollywood AND had some involvement in the Academy Award system) panned the movie and even stated pretty convincing arguments for why it was bad. Don't believe me, just watch this video:

https://pjmedia.com/blog/poliwood-takes-on-the-master/

and I guess all those Magazine and critic that claim 30 rock to be one of best comedy are also bought.
Basically anyone who doesn't agree with you is ether Bought or bribed! Including Magazine , critics and award shows .

In fact, the Oscars are so infamous for buying awards that it's actually a common saying that the Oscars are only there right now so Liberals can pat themselves on the back for promoting various causes. Besides, by your logic, "Butterfly" must have been a good film just because its lead won a Golden Globe, which was only because her husband bribed them. And don't get me started on Blue is the Warmest Color, which only won the Sundance festival because the judges there turned out to be huge supporters of Gay Marriage (the fact that France had just recently legalized gay marriage didn't help either), when it was little better than your standard porn flick, and even the people who starred the film utterly hated the experience and deeply regretted it.

So ,Then I guess Halle Berry also bought her Oscar because nobody like Black girls like her .

Breitbart claimed otherwise, however, regarding 30 Rock. And it winning awards simply doesn't cut it, especially when right now, they tend to give awards for political reasons rather than actual content.

A mare site Vs Thousand of Magazine and critics corner who confirm 30 rock to be one of 20 greatest comedy show .
I have no reason to take Breitbart side.

You do realize Youtube tends to remove episodes from its site due to copyright infringement, right?

You do know that Youtude haven't removed the New episode of Pokemon XYZ yet ?

No, I ignored it because I have enough cynicism of the industry regarding lying about their show to take it with a grain of salt. You want a show I don't like right now yet is STILL getting high ratings even with bad quality? Try Family Guy or even The Simpsons. In fact, a lot of people don't like Family Guy right now specifically BECAUSE of some of it's current actions right now.

You choose to ignore it because they doesn't support your opinion !
After all , You jump into any other source that support your opinion even if its not reliable.
30 rock was NBC's highest rated show and currently NBC didn't claim it to be their high rated show.
It claim 30 rock to be Multiple Award winning show
https://www.nbc.com/30-rock
Ether way NBC didn't lied .

They might gain the games, but that's independent of the actual anime and thus should NOT be used as a measuring stick. Don't forget, Mario, Sonic, Zelda, and Mega Man had TV shows promoting their games, as did Donkey Kong Country, yet when those were cancelled, they had absolutely no impact on the games. And for the record, the comics aren't actually impacted by the anime either, not unless it's something like a manga/graphic novel adaptation of one of the Pokémon movies and/or was an animanga for an episode.

Except , TV-Tokyo confirm pokemon to be one of their top 5 profitable anime.
Also , Digimon xros War also had low rating among all Digimon series yet it had the highest sales allowing the series to have another squeal.
It supported by Wikipedia , TV-troupes and multiple other source.
Not to mention , other anime that are popular and classic yet had lower rating.
That should be prof enough how low rated anime can have higher sales.

And Poke245 already confirmed that the online viewings for Pokémon were a bust as well (for goodness sakes, My Little Pony gets more viewership even online than Pokémon does).

How many time I have to tell you that I don't care what Poke245 says !
That's Just his opinion , Not fact .
Give me source that supported by TV-Tokyo or other official source ! Just like my source.

Yeah, if he read minds, he would have killed Giovanni the very second they met. That's what I would have done. Read his mind, noticed his words weren't in sync with his mind, then cause his head to explode and blow up his chopper.

He didn't killed Giovanni when he blow up Team Rocket Headquarter ether.
Ether way , Only an idiot would think Meotwo will join Giovanni and help him in World Domination after he gain his moral compus just because Giovanni ask nicely.
Its like claiming that Ash will join Team Rocket and start stealing other people pokemon because Giovanni asked him nicely.

I cited Breitbart, I cited Anime News Network's Top 10 ratings, I cited PJMedia in this post, and I also referenced the time where Golden Globes. Last I checked, that IS providing sources and proof. Heck, I even linked them. I haven't actually gotten to citing Bandai's List yet, though, only because accessing old posts is down at the moment.

I cited TV-Tokyo , I also cited Anime news network that confirm pokemon to be one of 5 profitable anime , I cited Anime-biz ,
My source were far more reliable and official then bunch of mare site and member that your counting on .

Also, I never used TVTropes to claim that about Doraemon. Stop making stuff up. I DID, however, cite TVTropes regarding Germans Love Daniel Hasselhoff in regards to the little amount of popularity the Pokémon anime has in Japan currently.

TvTropes also claimed that Digimon Xros War had highest sales despite being lowest rated Digimon series which is back up by wikipedia and other source.
That proves that Animes can high sales despite low rating .
Are you gonna call TVtropes liar because now they disagree with you ?

Edit: Okay, the posts are back up, kind of, and I did manage to search for the XY Ratings first part.

Here's the post:

https://www.pokecommunity.com/posts/8556080/

I made a mistake, he didn't post the link in that page, though he certainly seemed to know a lot about this one, the Bandai/Cross Marketing survey. For starters, until BW, Pokémon consistently ranked Top 5 in the Bandai/Cross Marketing survey, even in AG which had less than stellar ratings. However, it eventually plummeted, and the only time it managed to rank high on that survey was the N episode. After that, it generally declined to 8th place at best, and that was back in 2014.

Where the hell is his Source ? I don't see any source .
It just him talking about how Pokemon is not popular without any profs or Source .
I actually have source that back up by TV-Tokyo .
As I said , I don't care about IrregulrMerick opinion ! I care about Tv-Tokyo information .

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Who said Sidekicks can be hero ? Robin become hero even before leaving batman and becoming Nightwing.
However , There is a difference between Protagonist and sidekick .
Even a non-cast character can become a hero but a protagonist is always the protagonist.

Ah, let's see, that coach guy from Sky High? Pretty much any medium that pretty clearly lists a distinction between Hero and Sidekick, using those words as if they mean two different things?

This is coming from a guy who claim that Gardenia doesn't want to be grass pokemon Specialist , she's just a gym leader who loves Grass pokemon.
Misty called herself a Water pokemon trainer because she came from an Water pokemon Gym. That still didn't confirmed her goal .

Brock came from Pewter Gym which was naturally a Rock-type gym. Last I checked, he definitely didn't want to become a Rock Pokémon Master or even Rock Pokémon Trainer, he wanted to become a breeder. Besides, you DO realize that Gary Oak, or rather, Blue/Green, when running Viridian Gym used Pokémon that, with the exception of Rhydon, weren't even of the Ground type, right? And it's pretty clear that Misty wanted to become a Water Pokémon Master even back then. It's not like she had to go for Water types especially when she technically wasn't running Cerulean Gym at the time (running away from that city, remember?), and as noted before, Brock wanted to become a Pokémon Breeder, even though he clearly could pursue a goal of being the best Rock Type Master if he wanted to simply because of his running a gym dealing primarily with rock types.

That's still bigger then "Nobody " .

Not according to most executives, though. I've actually seen shows with those ratings get cancelled, like Maureen, Heroes, GCB, etc., etc.

However , That news were simply a guy posting his opinion as he didn't show prof or source of his information.

Considering said guy is still working on Breitbart, it's pretty clear he had validation for his source. Otherwise, he would have met the same fate as, say, Dan Rather with the Killian Documents controversy, since it's unethical to post your opinion and treat it as fact.

and I guess all those Magazine and critic that claim 30 rock to be one of best comedy are also bought.
Basically anyone who doesn't agree with you is ether Bought or bribed! Including Magazine , critics and award shows .

Let's see, there's GamerGate, there's the fact that Butterfly and Scent of a Woman got Golden Globes for Best Female Newcomer and Best Drama (and the former was confirmed to have only gotten the award because the female lead's husband bribed her). There's Blue is the Warmest Color winning top movie at the film festival literally solely because of the two protagonists being a lesbian couple, despite it's quality being nothing more than a porn film at best, and even the protagonists utterly hating the experience. There's also ABC claiming that GCB was the best-rated series even when it not only lasted for only one season, but most people if anything engineered a boycott against the show due to it's extremely offensive portrayal of Christians. Need I continue to list more, because I've got more, or at least can find plenty of other examples. Heck, Animal Man and Hollow Man was rather notorious for being rated as the best by critics when they actually turned out to be genuinely terrible. To sum it up, most times, critics and magazines are NOT the mainstream of the public.

So ,Then I guess Halle Berry also bought her Oscar because nobody like Black girls like her .

Who said anything about Halle Berry? I never did.

A mare site Vs Thousand of Magazine and critics corner who confirm 30 rock to be one of 20 greatest comedy show .
I have no reason to take Breitbart side.

Lots of those same people claimed the same thing about Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain as well. Last I checked, while the gameplay definitely is impressive, everything else about it was terrible. Even various sites that previously claimed it was the best are now backpedalling and claiming it was terrible, though obviously using the addition of DLC worsening the game as a CYA.

You do know that Youtude haven't removed the New episode of Pokemon XYZ yet ?

Okay, fair enough.

You choose to ignore it because they doesn't support your opinion !
After all , You jump into any other source that support your opinion even if its not reliable.
30 rock was NBC's highest rated show and currently NBC didn't claim it to be their high rated show.
It claim 30 rock to be Multiple Award winning show
https://www.nbc.com/30-rock
Ether way NBC didn't lied .

Breitbart was founded specifically to offset the liberal bias in the media. I'd take that as more reliable than, say, Dan Rather of CBS.

Except , TV-Tokyo confirm pokemon to be one of their top 5 profitable anime.
Also , Digimon xros War also had low rating among all Digimon series yet it had the highest sales allowing the series to have another squeal.
It supported by Wikipedia , TV-troupes and multiple other source.
Not to mention , other anime that are popular and classic yet had lower rating.
That should be prof enough how low rated anime can have higher sales.

You DO realize Wikipedia is not considered a good source in various term papers due to it being edited by anyone, right?

How many time I have to tell you that I don't care what Poke245 says !
That's Just his opinion , Not fact .
Give me source that supported by TV-Tokyo or other official source ! Just like my source.

And I DID, Anime News Network. Heck, even other users agreed that the Pokémon Anime is doing absolutely terribly.

He didn't killed Giovanni when he blow up Team Rocket Headquarter ether.
Ether way , Only an idiot would think Meotwo will join Giovanni and help him in World Domination after he gain his moral compus just because Giovanni ask nicely.
Its like claiming that Ash will join Team Rocket and start stealing other people pokemon because Giovanni asked him nicely.

Gee, you think. I guess Mewtwo was an idiot for not killing Giovanni when they first met. Had it been me in Mewtwo's position, the very second on New Island I notice his mind is inconsistent with his spoken words, I'd blow his brains out.

I cited TV-Tokyo , I also cited Anime news network that confirm pokemon to be one of 5 profitable anime , I cited Anime-biz ,
My source were far more reliable and official then bunch of mare site and member that your counting on .

I cited Anime News Network regarding ratings, as well as video research. And I will try to find Bandai Cross Market Research when I can.

TvTropes also claimed that Digimon Xros War had highest sales despite being lowest rated Digimon series which is back up by wikipedia and other source.
That proves that Animes can high sales despite low rating .
Are you gonna call TVtropes liar because now they disagree with you ?

No, I won't call it a liar. However, what IS clear is that under Germans Love Daniel Hasselhoff, Pokémon is explicitly labeled as less popular under the Japanese audiences than under Western audiences.

Where the hell is his Source ? I don't see any source .
It just him talking about how Pokemon is not popular without any profs or Source .
I actually have source that back up by TV-Tokyo .
As I said , I don't care about IrregulrMerick opinion ! I care about Tv-Tokyo information .

I will find Bandai Cross Market Survey if I must. I just need to find the link to it, however. And FYI, I did make sure to ask IrregularMaverick for the link though for whatever reason he is gone.

 

[Famon]

Ah, let's see, that coach guy from Sky High? Pretty much any medium that pretty clearly lists a distinction between Hero and Sidekick, using those words as if they mean two different things?

You seriously using a Movie's made up philosophy !
Well , At the end the movie shown that entire philosophy is false and Sidekicks can become heroes.

Brock came from Pewter Gym which was naturally a Rock-type gym. Last I checked, he definitely didn't want to become a Rock Pokémon Master or even Rock Pokémon Trainer, he wanted to become a breeder. Besides, you DO realize that Gary Oak, or rather, Blue/Green, when running Viridian Gym used Pokémon that, with the exception of Rhydon, weren't even of the Ground type, right? And it's pretty clear that Misty wanted to become a Water Pokémon Master even back then. It's not like she had to go for Water types especially when she technically wasn't running Cerulean Gym at the time (running away from that city, remember?), and as noted before, Brock wanted to become a Pokémon Breeder, even though he clearly could pursue a goal of being the best Rock Type Master if he wanted to simply because of his running a gym dealing primarily with rock types.

Brock had only rock type when he left Gym! Even his brother Foster has rock pokemon.
Furthermore , Misty was never limited to Water pokemon ether ! She tried to catch any pokemon that she find cute like Clefairy or Ferfatched .

Not according to most executives, though. I've actually seen shows with those ratings get cancelled, like Maureen, Heroes, GCB, etc., etc.

well , Pokemon and 30 rock haven't got cancelled .

Considering said guy is still working on Breitbart, it's pretty clear he had validation for his source. Otherwise, he would have met the same fate as, say, Dan Rather with the Killian Documents controversy, since it's unethical to post your opinion and treat it as fact.

He's still working because he only give his own review about 30 rock like many youtuder.
But that doesn't make him right .

Let's see, there's GamerGate, there's the fact that Butterfly and Scent of a Woman got Golden Globes for Best Female Newcomer and Best Drama (and the former was confirmed to have only gotten the award because the female lead's husband bribed her). There's Blue is the Warmest Color winning top movie at the film festival literally solely because of the two protagonists being a lesbian couple, despite it's quality being nothing more than a porn film at best, and even the protagonists utterly hating the experience. There's also ABC claiming that GCB was the best-rated series even when it not only lasted for only one season, but most people if anything engineered a boycott against the show due to it's extremely offensive portrayal of Christians. Need I continue to list more, because I've got more, or at least can find plenty of other examples. Heck, Animal Man and Hollow Man was rather notorious for being rated as the best by critics when they actually turned out to be genuinely terrible. To sum it up, most times, critics and magazines are NOT the mainstream of the public.

Just because you think that they does not deserve those award , That doesn't mean everyone thinks just like you.
Also , Many program get cancelled for other reason beside rating .

Who said anything about Halle Berry? I never did.

if you think that Award winning doesn't count because they are bought then obviously Halle Berry bought her Oscar .

Lots of those same people claimed the same thing about Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain as well. Last I checked, while the gameplay definitely is impressive, everything else about it was terrible. Even various sites that previously claimed it was the best are now backpedalling and claiming it was terrible, though obviously using the addition of DLC worsening the game as a CYA.

Just because you hated Metal Gear Solid V : The Phantom pain , Doesn't mean everyone else hated it.
This is all you OWN FREAKING OPINION .

Breitbart was founded specifically to offset the liberal bias in the media. I'd take that as more reliable than, say, Dan Rather of CBS.

30 rock regard as 20 best comedy of all time by La Weekly , The New work time ,TV guide and Usa Today etc etc.

You DO realize Wikipedia is not considered a good source in various term papers due to it being edited by anyone, right?

You do know that a guy review is even less reliable.
At least , my claim supported by many official source , magazine and critic.

And I DID, Anime News Network. Heck, even other users agreed that the Pokémon Anime is doing absolutely terribly.

I cited Anime News Network regarding ratings, as well as video research. And I will try to find Bandai Cross Market Research when I can.

Anime News network also comfirm Pokemon as Top 5 most Profitable Anime.
Furthermore , It has its own list of Top 10 anime of all time and most of them were out of Top 10 Japanese ranking.

Gee, you think. I guess Mewtwo was an idiot for not killing Giovanni when they first met. Had it been me in Mewtwo's position, the very second on New Island I notice his mind is inconsistent with his spoken words, I'd blow his brains out.

nobody care about What will you do as Mewtwo !

No, I won't call it a liar. However, what IS clear is that under Germans Love Daniel Hasselhoff, Pokémon is explicitly labeled as less popular under the Japanese audiences than under Western audiences.



I will find Bandai Cross Market Survey if I must. I just need to find the link to it, however. And FYI, I did make sure to ask IrregularMaverick for the link though for whatever reason he is gone.

And Its proven that Pokemon is one of 5 most profitable anime which is enough .

I don't care about your Servey

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

You seriously using a Movie's made up philosophy !
Well , At the end the movie shown that entire philosophy is false and Sidekicks can become heroes.

It's not just in movies, it's also in various comic book tropes as well.

Brock had only rock type when he left Gym! Even his brother Foster has rock pokemon.
Furthermore , Misty was never limited to Water pokemon ether ! She tried to catch any pokemon that she find cute like Clefairy or Ferfatched .

She also cited water being her specialty regarding Oddish as well.

well , Pokemon and 30 rock haven't got cancelled .

Actually, 30 Rock DID get cancelled.

He's still working because he only give his own review about 30 rock like many youtuder.
But that doesn't make him right .

He's not a youtuber. And for the record, Dan Rather also did the Killian Documents thing, and last I checked, the fact that it was his opinion is EXACTLY the reason he got fired.

Just because you think that they does not deserve those award , That doesn't mean everyone thinks just like you.
Also , Many program get cancelled for other reason beside rating .

Are you kidding me? It's not just my opinion, I've seen plenty of people cite exactly the same thing regarding those citations.

And I do know many other programs get cancelled for reasons other than ratings (like for example, a key character got killed off, or the writers got caught in a massive scandal, or even the whole writing staff being killed off in a plane crash), but ratings ARE the primary factor in most cases.

if you think that Award winning doesn't count because they are bought then obviously Halle Berry bought her Oscar .

Not all award winning is bought. In some cases, they are genuinely earned, like The King's Speech. However, in most cases, it IS bought.

Just because you hated Metal Gear Solid V : The Phantom pain , Doesn't mean everyone else hated it.
This is all you OWN FREAKING OPINION .

Clearly, you haven't seen most of the reviews by known fans of the series publicly denouncing it, or played it for that matter, because it was very clearly bad. Chapter 2 literally rehashed most of its missions, with only a few actually advancing the story, most of the story was limited to cassette tapes, and it pulled a cheap plot twist for the sake of a plot twist despite it not making ANY sense to the storyline.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/718564-metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain/73963792

And for the record, Giantbomb was among those reviewers who quickly took it back when they initially claimed it was good and later said it was bad.

30 rock regard as 20 best comedy of all time by La Weekly , The New work time ,TV guide and Usa Today etc etc.

All liberal rags. Of course they'd claim it's the best. Anything that pushes their political agenda would have them claim it's the best, even if it's a poorly written piece like The Master.

You do know that a guy review is even less reliable.
At least , my claim supported by many official source , magazine and critic.

Yeah, and I cited an actual official source regarding Anime News Network and Video Research. And BTW, magazines right now ARE unreliable as are critics, precisely because they tend to use their political views as determining whether a film is good and NOT the actual content. Seriously, the state of this world is a mess right now when people can't even critically think...

Anime News network also comfirm Pokemon as Top 5 most Profitable Anime.
Furthermore , It has its own list of Top 10 anime of all time and most of them were out of Top 10 Japanese ranking.

How can they be the best when they aren't even within the top 10 rankings of viewership (especially when Poke426 already verified that Pokémon, even under online viewership, was bad).

nobody care about What will you do as Mewtwo !

It's called using logic.

And Its proven that Pokemon is one of 5 most profitable anime which is enough .

I don't care about your Servey

Ah, actually, no, if there's actual raw data, a survey DOES matter, especially if it proves whether or not it is among the top. And if Bandai/Cross Marketing Survey (Bandai is one of Japan's top toy companies) lists it as not having good sales, and it's proven by the data, chances are it IS that.

 

[RileyXY1]

Can we please get back on topic?

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Fine by me, I was getting tired of this anyway.

As far as the actual topic, assuming the writers pay attention to ratings, especially regarding other shows, they may consider bringing back Misty and possibly even Brock. Also, depending on the validity of the rumors, either Ash is going to challenge gyms, or he'll have a different goal to pursue in the region. We know it's pretty much guaranteed that Serena's going to leave the series after XY ends (her goal all but made that explicit). As far as what Ash's starter will be for the region, most likely, it will either be the grass type or the fire type.

 

[Famon]

Can we please get back on topic?

It is about Sun and Moon !
He claim that Pokemon is in near cancellention so there might not be a Pokemon Sun and Moon anime.
But I claim that Pokemon is TV-Tokyo's top 5 most profitable anime so it not near cancellation .

It's not just in movies, it's also in various comic book tropes as well.

In various comic troupes , Sidekick become heros and save the actual hero from dying ,

She also cited water being her specialty regarding Oddish as well.

Yet Oddish has nothing to do with Water , It was just a grass type pokemon!

Actually, 30 Rock DID get cancelled.

30 rock Season Ended , It like Claiming Big Bang Theory got cancelled because season 09 ended.

He's not a youtuber. And for the record, Dan Rather also did the Killian Documents thing, and last I checked, the fact that it was his opinion is EXACTLY the reason he got fired.

He is a reviewer who mainly use their own freaking opinion .
There is a difference between review and Document.

Are you kidding me? It's not just my opinion, I've seen plenty of people cite exactly the same thing regarding those citations.

Not everyone , Majority of people has different opinion.

And I do know many other programs get cancelled for reasons other than ratings (like for example, a key character got killed off, or the writers got caught in a massive scandal, or even the whole writing staff being killed off in a plane crash), but ratings ARE the primary factor in most cases.

Not in Japanese Animes case .

Not all award winning is bought. In some cases, they are genuinely earned, like The King's Speech. However, in most cases, it IS bought.

Yet you accuse 30 rock for bribing when it used to recieve 8.7 rating when it got award .

Clearly, you haven't seen most of the reviews by known fans of the series publicly denouncing it, or played it for that matter, because it was very clearly bad. Chapter 2 literally rehashed most of its missions, with only a few actually advancing the story, most of the story was limited to cassette tapes, and it pulled a cheap plot twist for the sake of a plot twist despite it not making ANY sense to the storyline.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/718564-metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain/73963792

And for the record, Giantbomb was among those reviewers who quickly took it back when they initially claimed it was good and later said it was bad.

Again , your using some random thread with just 10 post and claiming it to be everyone's opinion.
Even though , some post disagree with that opinion.

All liberal rags. Of course they'd claim it's the best. Anything that pushes their political agenda would have them claim it's the best, even if it's a poorly written piece like The Master.

Oh really , Your claiming 30 rock has political power and every other comedy series has none.
How desperate are you ?

Yeah, and I cited an actual official source regarding Anime News Network and Video Research. And BTW, magazines right now ARE unreliable as are critics, precisely because they tend to use their political views as determining whether a film is good and NOT the actual content. Seriously, the state of this world is a mess right now when people can't even critically think...

I cited Anime News network , Anime-biz , TV-Tokyo .
Everyone of those are far reliable source.
Also , What make you that random site are so fair ? Many people often use those site to write crap other others.

How can they be the best when they aren't even within the top 10 rankings of viewership (especially when Poke426 already verified that Pokémon, even under online viewership, was bad).

Just like FullMetal Alchemist brotherhood , Steins Gates , Clanned , OnePunchMan , Naruto are considered to be Best even though they aren't within Top 10.
Even AnimeNews put them of TOP 10 list of best animes.
Just like Digimon Xros War had highest sales with rating.

It's called using logic.

It not logic ,
If I were Ash then I would never let May to be stolen by Drew !
But it doesn't matter what I do , It matter what Ash do.

Ah, actually, no, if there's actual raw data, a survey DOES matter, especially if it proves whether or not it is among the top. And if Bandai/Cross Marketing Survey (Bandai is one of Japan's top toy companies) lists it as not having good sales, and it's proven by the data, chances are it IS that.

Except , you couldn't provide it !
Pokemon still has high spot on Bandai and even has it own site.
Furthermore , Pokken Tournament Will U was develop by Bandai Namiko studio that had high sales on UK .
Therefore , that 3 or 2 year old servey mean nothing ! Specially the rise of Nintendo Stock because of Pokemon go.

 

[Mana1]

I've had some reports about off-topic posts in here. Whilst I'm all for discussion, I do feel like it is getting a bit off track. It's OK to talk about whether Sun/Moon will be the end (or not exist at all) but to make a wall of text that is mainly about other TV shows being cancelled seems a bit... abstract.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Yeah, we should get it back on topic. Sorry for the disruption.

I really can't say anything I haven't already said before, so I'll just leave it at this:

Since it's going to be the 20th anniversary, they're probably going to bring Misty and maybe even Brock back. Also, thanks to a rumor someone posted, Ash might not even challenge gyms in Alola. And his likely starters will probably be either the grass type or the fire type. Only thing that's certain is that Serena is going to leave at the end of XY, meaning she obviously won't go to Alola.

Famon, if you really want to continue the argument with me, then do it either via VM or PM.

 

[Famon]

I can imagine an episode where a Mimikkyo secretly watch Pikachu playing with Ash and being loved by others.
Then it kidnaps Pikachu and hilariously pose as Pikachu in front of Ash and others.
It tries to pretend to be Pikachu despite the obvious bluff.
Pikachu break free and appear right in time to confront Mimikkyo but it run away crying.
Ash learn about Mimikkyo desparate need of Love and chase after it .

Another episode where Ash and Team Rocket see the warning post about Kitteruguma and believes it to be a savage vicious Pokemon.
But instate they find a big cute Pink bear.
James claim that there nothing scary about Kitteruguma and slap its back .
The Kitteruguma slap back and accidentally send James flying.

 

[Hikamaru]

So, on Serebii I came across interesting theories about Serena's fate at the end of XY. The people discussing mention XY is bringing tons of change to the anime, Serena being Ash's first canonical crush and the supposed connection between Alola and Kalos is making them believe that Serena may end up rejecting the offer to train with Palermo just so she can be with Ash.

However, Ash is also at the final of a major league for the first time and could end up winning the Kalos League. If Serena has to stay in Kalos, then Ash winning could give him an excuse to end his journey.

There's also the fact that next year is the anime's 20th anniversary and if the writers really want Ash and Serena to stay together they could end up replacing Ash with a new main character altogether.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

So, on Serebii I came across interesting theories about Serena's fate at the end of XY. The people discussing mention XY is bringing tons of change to the anime, Serena being Ash's first canonical crush and the supposed connection between Alola and Kalos is making them believe that Serena may end up rejecting the offer to train with Palermo just so she can be with Ash.

However, Ash is also at the final of a major league for the first time and could end up winning the Kalos League. If Serena has to stay in Kalos, then Ash winning could give him an excuse to end his journey.

There's also the fact that next year is the anime's 20th anniversary and if the writers really want Ash and Serena to stay together they could end up replacing Ash with a new main character altogether.

First of all, his first canonical crush was Giselle. Second of all, even among leads, Misty would be far closer to an actual crush, since Serena he just flat out ignores beyond standard friendship. Third of all, if they wanted Serena to continue on with Ash, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have given her a goal that made pretty explicit that she was a one-off ("Kalos Queen."). Fourth, if they really wanted to avert the premise of the female lead leaving after the current series, they would have done it with Iris when Best Wishes ended, and since they didn't do that despite being a golden opportunity in many ways, it's unlikely they'll do it now. Lastly, we're not sure if Ash is going to win the league. True, it's likely he is, but he still has to fight the Elite 4, and that's not even getting into whether the writers this time around will even bother having him retire after winning a league. Aside from the fact that Ash has won the Orange Islands league and the Battle Frontier (and the latter had the brains at the very least being as strong as the Elite 4 based on what Agatha and Scott stated, and possibly even stronger than them going by both Brandon and Noland), you also must remember that Masamitsu Hidaka isn't even working for the anime anymore, so there's very much a chance that they won't continue with the bit about Ash being retired when he won a league (though then again, Hidaka's departure didn't stop them from replacing Iris with Serena despite having a perfect opportunity to avert that trend line).

 

[Hikamaru]

First of all, his first canonical crush was Giselle. Second of all, even among leads, Misty would be far closer to an actual crush, since Serena he just flat out ignores beyond standard friendship. Third of all, if they wanted Serena to continue on with Ash, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have given her a goal that made pretty explicit that she was a one-off ("Kalos Queen."). Fourth, if they really wanted to avert the premise of the female lead leaving after the current series, they would have done it with Iris when Best Wishes ended, and since they didn't do that despite being a golden opportunity in many ways, it's unlikely they'll do it now. Lastly, we're not sure if Ash is going to win the league. True, it's likely he is, but he still has to fight the Elite 4, and that's not even getting into whether the writers this time around will even bother having him retire after winning a league. Aside from the fact that Ash has won the Orange Islands league and the Battle Frontier (and the latter had the brains at the very least being as strong as the Elite 4 based on what Agatha and Scott stated, and possibly even stronger than them going by both Brandon and Noland), you also must remember that Masamitsu Hidaka isn't even working for the anime anymore, so there's very much a chance that they won't continue with the bit about Ash being retired when he won a league (though then again, Hidaka's departure didn't stop them from replacing Iris with Serena despite having a perfect opportunity to avert that trend line).

Ignoring Hidaka's exit from the series, the new writers are already changing a lot with XY such as breaking a lot of long-standing trends, such as Greninja being Ash's first Water-type that isn't comedy relief and actually having a serious personality, or how Kalos became the first region where he catches: no Grass-type, a pseudo-legendary that fully evolves, and having a regional team that's all fully-evolved.