POLL: Which move is more of a disadvantage?

[EternalSeekerX]

As the title says, which move effect is worse from both a competitive in the meta and from an in game point of view?

-Moves that require one turn to charge or recharge?
-Moves which decrease your Pokemon stats after use?
-Doesn't really matter, they are both bad?

 

[Oblox]

I dont like moves that lower my stats, there are situations as stated above where the pokemon can take it but its still not nice.

 

[Hiatus]

-Moves that require one turn to charge or recharge?
-Moves which decrease your Pokemon stats after use?

I would say former when it comes to competitive, because here, every single turn matters; wasting even one could turn tables around for the opponent and yourself. In-game, I'm not too sure... I wouldn't say either of them matter too much, as we're battling against NPCs (even though some might utilize strategies) and not actual people.

 

[Hikamaru]

To me, it's recharge moves that are worse than the ones that self-lower your stats. The stat reductions can mostly be cured with a White Herb or by switching out, and there's literally no way to get around a recharge turn because it makes you vulnerable to attacks.

 

[PlatinumDude]

Charge turn moves are worse than stat-dropping moves, since you're left wide open to attack in most cases.

 

[Mawa]

I would say the 2 turn attacks. Not only you can be open for an attack from the opponent, but the opponent can switch and adjust his game!

 

[EternalSeekerX]

Take this with a grain of salt since I haven't played competitively for a good while, but from being around people that do, I'd honestly say that moves that require charging/recharging are honestly the worst moves to go with. Reason being is obvious--you're giving your opponent a free set-up turn--and that turn in itself can decide the whole match. Idk if hyper beam is still used in RBY games, but I legitimately think that's the one exception where a recharging move should really ever be used.

Even in-game, I still find them to be fairly terrible. They get the job done, but so can literally any other move provided you're high enough of a level, without the inconvenience of having to wait an extra turn to make a move.

Moves like Draco Meteor, V-Create, and similar moves aren't as big of a deal because even if they "drastically lower" your respective stats, they can still deal a respectable amount of damage if executed more than once. It's not just once and your Pokemon is useless....I believe there are some Pokemon that can afford to "spam" moves like DM and Victini can spam V-Create under certain circumstances without much hindrance to it, so there's really not much of a disadvantage here, whether you use it in-game or competitively.

I see, nice!! So in your opinion. Which moves are better in terms of damage? Moves like draco meteor or high critical hit moves like spatial rend?