DarkTerror said:
Sorry if you took any offense, but what I'm saying is, Pokemon isn't as good as it was, no matter how much you try to deny it. You see, everything good has to end sooner or later, and Pokemon is no exception. People would find it more fun to collect 151 Pokemon than 386. Most people don't have time to do all of that, unless they're in your same situation. The problem is, most people aren't in your same situation. You see, most people tend to spend more time either on schoolwork, or on their jobs, or hanging out with friends, etc.
However, if they bothered to try to collect all 386(Most people won't), it would take them a long time to do that, and until this happens, they'd probably just get bored of it after a while anyway. They either won't be satisfied, or just won't care anyway. I personally didn't care about my Pokedex when I was playing through Sapphire. All I did care about is just beating the game, and then I threw it away. 99% of my friends in real life that did buy it(Which were only about 7 or 8, all the others didn't buy it because they think that Pokemon is just too kiddy for them anymore) did the same thing(Buy it, beat it, throw it away). By my previous post, I wasn't trying to belittle Pokemon or anything, but I just think the new games are boring. I didn't like anything in R/S. There's no new features(Except for stupid stuff that I could care less about like graphics and new Pokemon, the new Pokemon designs plain suck, they obviously have ran out of ideas by now). I'd prefer the DS Pokemon game to be without any new Pokemon, just another RPG adventure but with an online multiplayer feature. That'd rock. But I'd rather see Pokemon die than just having a new RPG adventure, 500 Pokemon to catch, and new graphics and Pokedex.
Don't get me wrong, I do like Pokemon(If I didn't, I wouldn't be here), but I just don't like the way it's going at the moment. I think it will die eventually just like everything else, because people will eventually get bored of it and will hope it dies. No one would like to play through the same thing over and over and over again(Or at least most people wouldn't). Nintendo's going to notice that soon, and will either just stop producing more Pokemon games or will come up with some new ideas so people won't get bored.
In conclusion, this is just personal opinion, nobody should get so worked up over it, especially when it's said on the internet.
Again, I have to disagree wtih you. Most people would rather hunt down 386 different ones and give them more thigns to do, than hutn down 151 and beat it easy and be forced to buy a different game. They may eventually get bored of a longer hunt, but at least they got more gaming fun out of it in the long run. And if they can find time to collect 151, then they can find time to collect 386. They aren't on any time constraints. it's not like after a month they ahve to stop playing it. And a great majority of the people would rather just train to be the best than worry about the POkedex anyways. So in that case, it doesn't matter how many there is in terms of game replayability. People play it for fun, and do it for as long as they can. And they do that by having more thigns to do, which is what the newer games promise.
On another note, we aren't denying ir's not as popular as it used to be. If you read my last post, you would have realized that. we're just saying it's not nearl;y as dead as you think it is, and you can't be stereotypical and apply your beliefs to every other american gamer.
And not everything has to die. It may drop down to the bottom some time, but not everything dies. As long as there is a fan base, it will never die. so long as they ahve that Theme park they're going to build in Japan, it won't die. HEck, so long as they make money off of it, it won't die.
and teh newer games have a lot more than you're giving them credit for. LEt's recap:
Reb/Blue: Gym LEaders, bicycle, pixelated graphics, elite four, pokedex, 151 pokemon, Box system, and that was pretty much it. :\
Fire Red/ Leaf Green: Enhanced graphics, Vs. Seeker, Running shoes, Animated item usage, Berries, Berry Masher, Dodrio Mini Game, LInk up with other Gen. Games, Sevii Islands, Pokedex that sorts the pokemon in many more ways than the old one, new box system taht operates much better than before,choice of boy or girl character, breeding, personality, abilities, occasional Double Battles, new moves, smoother graphics, and of course new Pokemon.
Now I don't know what kind of player you are, but you msut be one of those extremist retro players if you look at anything new as sucky and stupid. :\ But most people would prefer sleeker, smoother graphics and an updated gaming engine to something so old.
And now you're being hypocritical. You say you want a new game, but you don't want any new pokemon? What's teh point in that? POkemon is what it's all about, not some bonus things you can do. And they did not run out of ideas. These pokemon were all invented before it was even released. And there are plenty more waiting to show themselves. Did you not read Blue's comment about the 1171 confrimed species of pokemon? :\ How are teh new pokemon any different than the old ones?
Before you come back, I want you to honestly think thorugh your agrument.You're too personal with the situation, and apply your personal beliefs to every situation. which is biased and unfair, and makes for a poor argument. So please, think it over before you post again.