Suggestion: Post Comments

[Sydian]

I feel like making them distinctive would just create unnecessary drama too. The way it is now, you can leave your opinion on someone's post - be it as negative or as positive - and the receiver would probably not care more than a few seconds (at least they shouldn't, come on) because they don't know who it's from anyway. Making the poster visible would just enable that person to backfire and it ends up doing more harm than good. And obviously it would also cause people to not want to leave a negative opinion anymore because it's not anonymous, so where's the point in that.

I'm gonna agree with everything Yoshikkko said, especially this part. I mean, if you wanna leave your name when you make a post comment, more power to you. Nice balls ya got there. If not, that's fine too. If someone is blatantly trolling and being rude, you can take it to hstaff since they can see who leaves post comments for everyone and they can handle it. I just don't see the point in making them visible. I think it'd cause more problems than it's worth.

 

[Jorah]

I still think there should just be an option in the user CP where you can disable post-comments so that people who can't deal with opinionated ones can just turn it off.

Oh and really, all these people bawwing about being trolled or whatever - get over itttt it's the internet, you don't know the person and if they'd say something rude or abusive to you then they're obviously not a friend so why would you care about that.

As it's against PC rules to troll, it'd be weird to say "lol stop bawwing" at post comments. But I think my memory is bad as I don't use this forum so much now.

I like your presumption that people who want to disable them due to uselessness just can't deal with opinions XD As mods can see who has given comments and most members (I think) know about this, I wonder how many of them get negative constructive comments from the so brave members.

 

[moon]

If we don't want them to be anonymous, we could just as well send a VM or PM. Maybe quoting the post in question for extra reference. So.

 

[Yoshikkko]

As it's against PC rules to troll, it'd be weird to say "lol stop bawwing" at post comments. But I think my memory is bad as I don't use this forum so much now.

Basically you know, trolling happens all the time and everywhere, you can't really fall back on that rule lol. And like Sydian said before, if someone is being blatantly rude or attacking you for the heck of it, you can take it to h-staff and problem solved, it doesn't need the poster visible. If someone calls you a loser or a fag or whatever once in a post-comment, it's just childish and not even worth dealing with (unless it's like constant, etc) and you should just ignore those kind of comments and get over it, yes.

 

[Abnegation]

The only reason I would rather that these aren't visible to the member is so that people don't go around VM'ing each other and getting into arguments over things. A negative comment (not a trolling one) should be fair game, without having to expect the person you gave it to to come at you and retort. If someone wants to be visible they can sign their name at the end of the post comment.

But the function should 100% have the option to be disabled by the user.

 

[Alice]

The thing is that if they aren't anonymous, people won't send troll post comments to begin with, so there's no reason to worry about fights being started because of it. That's the whole point.

Also, I know for a fact that one of mine (not a repeated troll, but negative still) did come from a mod, based on what they said. Kind of unfair that they can leave those comments anonymous to us, and we can't to them.

 

[Abnegation]

If you see a trolling post comment, report it to a higher staff member. Nobody is anonymous.

 

[Yoshikkko]

The thing is that if they aren't anonymous, people won't send troll post comments to begin with, so there's no reason to worry about fights being started because of it. That's the whole point.

Also, I know for a fact that one of mine (not a repeated troll, but negative still) did come from a mod, based on what they said. Kind of unfair that they can leave those comments anonymous to us, and we can't to them.

Yeah and people will also stop being honest and not use them at all anymore because they'll be attacked or judged if they express their opinion and it's not ego-stroking. They'll only be used for saying cute stuff to eachother and I thought that's what VMs were for.

Also, I don't know what they said to you but if it was trollish then, well, you can report it, and if it wasn't then I'm assuming it was just a negative opinion and nothing's wrong with that.

 

[Nihilego]

Completely agreed with what Yoshikkko said a few posts back here.

I'm thinking people might be a bit quick to call troll here. If it's really trolling, it's probably pretty obvious and should be reported, and if it's not then the fact that it's annoyed someone enough to leave a negative comment should suggest to you that there was something wrong with what you said. And let's face it; the only real place you're able to suggest a user change something in a post which was particularly bad or irritating without being attacked for it is in post comments. They almost need to stay anonymous for the sake of honesty.

 

[Oryx]

Although to be fair on the other side of this: to say that people have to be strong enough to take anonymous negative comments...you should be strong enough that you're willing to leave negative comments with your name. The way I see it is, if you're not willing to sign it, then you shouldn't say it. You know how so many websites are moving to Facebook comments? On many sites that I've seen do that, it's reduced people being negative and rude because it's connected to their identity. I can even see it on my school's newspaper site - they have both Facebook comments and website comments, and the Facebook comments are considerably kinder, more polite, and even if they are negative they're not phrased in a hurtful way.

I feel it's a little hypocritical to expect people to "suck it up" if they get a negative anonymous comment, when the person who posted it isn't even brave enough to sign their name to it. The way I look at post comments, is every once in a while I do get the urge to leave a negative post comment. I think about it, and think "do I feel strongly enough about this comment to deal with the person disagreeing with me?" If I do, I leave the comment and sign it. If not, I don't leave it at all. If your opinion is so negatively phrased that you're embarrassed to have it tied to your name, then you probably should be keeping that opinion to yourself. It's not a bad thing to have opinions that you don't share.

And if someone attacks you for commenting something negative:

all these people bawwing about being trolled or whatever - get over itttt it's the internet, you don't know the person and if they'd say something rude or abusive to you then they're obviously not a friend so why would you care about that.

And like Sydian said before, if someone is being blatantly rude or attacking you for the heck of it, you can take it to h-staff and problem solved

While I definitely don't agree with the first quote (I just quoted it because of how well it fits into both sides), the second post is true and it's even easier to report when it's a personal message, the button is right there.

Not a fan of victim-blaming when it comes to trolling though.

 

[Mana1]

I often leave comments of thanks and/or offer quick opinions in the hacking forums and I never thought to sign it...

The way I see it - if someone doesn't want comments they can disable it, so there is no point it being anonymous. I would rather think "oh that person said this nice thing about me, that was kind of them" or "this person thinks this, maybe I should ask them what I can change." etc.

 

[Sodapop]

Well, that would be a good idea.

 

[Yoshikkko]

Although to be fair on the other side of this: to say that people have to be strong enough to take anonymous negative comments...you should be strong enough that you're willing to leave negative comments with your name. The way I see it is, if you're not willing to sign it, then you shouldn't say it. You know how so many websites are moving to Facebook comments? On many sites that I've seen do that, it's reduced people being negative and rude because it's connected to their identity. I can even see it on my school's newspaper site - they have both Facebook comments and website comments, and the Facebook comments are considerably kinder, more polite, and even if they are negative they're not phrased in a hurtful way.

I feel it's a little hypocritical to expect people to "suck it up" if they get a negative anonymous comment, when the person who posted it isn't even brave enough to sign their name to it. The way I look at post comments, is every once in a while I do get the urge to leave a negative post comment. I think about it, and think "do I feel strongly enough about this comment to deal with the person disagreeing with me?" If I do, I leave the comment and sign it. If not, I don't leave it at all. If your opinion is so negatively phrased that you're embarrassed to have it tied to your name, then you probably should be keeping that opinion to yourself. It's not a bad thing to have opinions that you don't share.

While I do really agree with you on that, there's also those situations where people don't sign a negative post-comment out of fear of how the other person would react to them or think of them. It might be someone they're intimidated by, or are friends with and are afraid of maybe losing them when they express their opinion. Personally I appreciate it when my friends are honest with me but I know that a lot of people don't and they can take it the wrong way, and anonymity gives you the chance to still express your opinion in those kind of cases. What I mean to say is that some people take it personally when a friend has something negative to say about them (which should be completely fine when it's just honesty) and I can imagine that really discourages some people to leave their name, because they don't want to do harm (with a comment that, objectively, isn't harmful at all btw).

But yeah I know there are exceptions though, like you said, where people abuse it, but the thing is you can't really control that, and I think that making them distinctive would do more harm than having them anonymous does.

 

[Mr Cat Dog]

But yeah I know there are exceptions though, like you said, where people abuse it, but the thing is you can't really control that, and I think that making them distinctive would do more harm than having them anonymous does.

To play devil's advocate for a moment, what 'harm' can really arise from making them public? Surely transparency is the best disinfectant for situations like these?

 

[tj4bigred]

Edit: I completely misunderstood the question this thread was asking.

So it's about anonymity. I guess I think that if people are always more willing to be mean to someone or be a little bolder when they don't have to own up to it. Personally, I think you shouldn't worry about your opinion getting you ridiculed or ostrasized for being honest. If you have a belief you think is important, you shouldn't be afraid to stand up for it.

If you don't want other people to know what you think, you must not strongly feel for the issue.