5th Gen Pros and Cons Discussion Thread

[bwburke94]

Not enough space in the PC. 720 spaces - 649 mons = 71 spare slots for my NU team, assuming I have UU variations of those mons as well. There will be more than 71 mons in NU.

 

[PlatinumDude]

-Cool graphics
-The Dream World (hello Speed Boost Blaziken)
-The starters
-The Elite 4
-Pokemon with insanely high base stats

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

-Cynthia
- The legends
-Dive as a Hm again :D
- The city graphics :)
- and all the DP remake hints they have given us for gen 6 :P

 

[King Gumball]

The graphics
Cynthia coming back
Caitlin being an E4 member
99% of the pokemon
Seasons
The E4 typing
The game title
Finally a Man-O-War pokemon
Pokemon Musicals!!
The larger cities.

 

[GoldvsRed]

I could go on and on about how I love pretty much every aspect of this game, but all I have to say is this: the Champion's battle theme. Holy Shiftry, that was awesome.

 

[King Gumball]

If I buy B/W from the USA and use it on an Australian DSi will it work? Because the Japanese games do not work on American DSi only on American DS.

 

[Butterfree-Charizard]

Its not the game that I don't like (I love BW and the Gameplay). Its the most Pokemon that I don't like. Though there's only a certain Pokemon I like. But many I don't like. I mean look at these!

For god sake! I would prefer those guys on Deviant Art to make the Pokemon than those freaks! I have a bunch of talented watcher/friends there which they're more talented and smarter to make a Pokemon (Fakemon).

I agree its like its not even pokemon anymore.

 

[Alaskan Husky]

- Gigigear
- Chillarmy evo
- There are about seven or eight new Pokemon on my "hate" list (GroundGhost2, Water tadpole, Gigigear, Chillarmy evo, Gigear, Nageki, Dageki). Up until now, there have been only two.

Heck, I can deal with everything else, to be honest.

 

[Hamilton]

well, i change my mind
i haven't run into any problems other than language barrier and so far i can't complain :)
seriously, once i started playing, i stopped being skeptical

 

[King Gumball]

well, i change my mind
i haven't run into any problems other than language barrier and so far i can't complain :)
seriously, once i started playing, i stopped being skeptical

So do you know if the American game would work on an Australian bought DSi?

 

[sirboulevard]

How about everything. I live in nostalgia land, ill admit it. Game Freak turned this up to 11 and now im feeling emotions I cannot express on this forum. Black & White have toppled GSC.

 

[Zelda]

Merged "The Best of B/W" here since it seems reasonable enough to have this as one pros and cons discussion thread. Also, edited the first post to match the added topic. :)

 

[Maxite]

Pros:
I haven't been this excited about Pokemon since Diamond and Pearl came out.
If you're a Dark-type fan (of which I'm one of, behind Dragon), this generation will treat you kindly.
Lots of new and unique type pairings. First pure-Dragon final evos. First pure Flying type.

Meh:
Some Pokemon designs are bad. I'm not one to say "This doesn't look like a Pokemon!", but three of the legendaries that look like genies riding on clouds look almost identical.

Cons:
Only 156 Pokemon in the Isshu Dex? Short Dexes rarely do good things, especially when 10% of the Pokemon in the Isshu dex are either Event or Legendary Pokemon.
I haven't played the game yet (will be soon, so opinion is subject to change) but the region seems awfully small. Maybe the maps that I've seen are just highly deceptive, and the region is actually quite vast.





That's my thoughts so far. I'm sure as more details come out, I'll have more praises and scorns for the series.

 

[Livewire]

How about everything. I live in nostalgia land, ill admit it. Game Freak turned this up to 11 and now im feeling emotions I cannot express on this forum. Black & White have toppled GSC.

I didnt think it possible either, but i agree. Game freak just laid down a royal flush with B&W. They brought the house down. B&W will be considered the best Pokemon games we have, just watch.

 

[Fushigidane-Chan]

Cons:
-Gym Leaders and Elite Four are done horribly
-PokeDex is too small
-No Battle Frontier
-No post-E4 location with old Pokemon
-Isshu is too linear
-Gym Leaders no longer have animations
-Final starter evolutions are awful
-No Gym Leader rematches

 

[Planetes.]

CONS
-Gym Leaders and E4 Are way too weak-unless you can't heal between them
-Tons of the Pokemons are derp
-No prevos/evos of old pokemon
-Plasma's story went from cool to derp
-only 8 routes
-rushed, didn't live up to the hype
-pseudo-legend was wasted horribly and a lot of legends were too
-laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame champion

PROS
Unique Concepts
New Take on Pokemon
Lots of new features
Good starters
Cool Gym Designs
good typing for pokemon
two rivals

 

[JP]

Can anyone confirm if

Spoiler:

battling Kanto Champion Blue is possible?

Because if thats the case, I'm so adding that to my Pros list haha.

And what the hell? There's no Gym Leader animations? That's so very disappointing. It's something pretty basic now, for them to remove it is saddening. Hopefully they rectify this with the third game.

 

[fenyx4]

Cons:
-Gym Leaders and Elite Four are done horribly
-PokeDex is too small
[S-HIGHLIGHT]-No Battle Frontier[/S-HIGHLIGHT]
[S-HIGHLIGHT]-No post-E4 location with old Pokemon[/S-HIGHLIGHT]
-Isshu is too linear
[S-HIGHLIGHT]-Gym Leaders no longer have animations[/S-HIGHLIGHT]
-Final starter evolutions are awful
[S-HIGHLIGHT]-No Gym Leader rematches[/S-HIGHLIGHT]

OK, the lack of Gym Leader rematches is inexcusable. All that does is severely detract replay value.


Removing animations from Gym Leaders seems like a step backwards. You'd think both Pokemon and Pokemon League members could be animated... Old Pokemon could at least be added in a Safari Zone similar to Emerald's expansion...

The lack of a Battle Frontier I kind of expected, but it is still a let-down... Is there a Battle Tower at least?

DAIKENKI is still my primary "Con" until Sugimori artwork is revealed...hopefully that can rectify the situation...

I really hope "Pokemon Gray Version" will be worth the wait, considering all of these Cons mentioned so far. :\


When the designers mentioned they wanted to "break" some parts of past Pokemon games, I think they broke a bit too much. "A bit" may be an understatement, unfortunately...
And is the Follow-Me feature from HGSS still in there?

 

[JP]

OK, the lack of Gym Leader rematches is inexcusable. All that does is severely detract replay value.


Removing animations from Gym Leaders seems like a step backwards. You'd think both Pokemon and Pokemon League members could be animated... Old Pokemon could at least be added in a Safari Zone similar to Emerald's expansion...

The lack of a Battle Frontier I kind of expected, but it is still a let-down... Is there a Battle Tower at least?

I really hope "Pokemon Gray Version" will be worth the wait, considering all of these Cons mentioned so far...



And is the Follow-Me feature from HGSS still in there?

Pretty sure there's no Follow-Me feature. Though, no Gym Leader rematches is odd... has this actually been confirmed? I'm very disappointed by the lack of animations for the leaders, but no rematches either? Yikes.

 

[Fushigidane-Chan]

Can anyone confirm if

Spoiler:

battling Kanto Champion Blue is possible?

Well, his theme is there, but there's no confirmation on whether he appears or not. Personally? I doubt it.

Is there a Battle Tower at least?

There is the Battle Subway, which is essentially, and for all intents and purposes, the same thing.

And is the Follow-Me feature from HGSS still in there?

No, unfortunately. :/

Though, no Gym Leader rematches is odd... has this actually been confirmed?

The game was hacked, and while E4 rematch teams were found, Gym Leader rematch teams weren't. It was sort of expected they'd save that for the third version, though.