Republican 2012 Candidates

FreakyLocz14 said:
Planned Parenthood has always had the minds of young women of color who they trick into thinking there are no alternatives. The young women who cannot afford abortions are often paid for by the states, and many PP facilities get state funds for providing family planning services (not limited to abortion) to primarily low-income areas. While not always, they often are areas dominated by racial minorities.
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Again, so? As stated by the other person above, Planned Parenthood is there for the low income communities. It has nothing to do with the fact that there is a greater number of minorities in that group. Are you suggesting that Cain actually has some legitimacy to that statement?

I'm not even going to deal with the "tricked" part of your statement. Its your bias and really has nothing to do with the issue thats being discussed. All I ask is that you keep parts like that out of them so that this discussion doesn't go into an unrelated question that we know will end badly.

EDIT: To clarify after Live_Wire's post (not sure if I was clear before), how does any of these claims relate to Cain's claims?
 
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Has anyone decided on a candidate or changed their previous decision?

If so, explain why.
 
I haven't changed my decision, but I would like to bring up another topic. Though I do not like most of Cain's stances, and I will not vote for him, how do you guys think that constituents who either support or have considered supporting Cain think about the sexual harassment suits that he admitted to settling out of court?
 
Ron Paul has a real shot if those clowns drop-out early. He ranks 3rd-4th in early states, ahead of Bachmann. Those are the polls that matter, because we will be seeing some of the clowns who fail to get in the Top 3 in a single primary or caucus drop-out at that point.
 
I personally find it odd that this story breaks when he is leading in national polls.

Its the curse. Once you hit top, someone is going to dig up your dirty laundry to knock you down.

Personally, I'm VERY interested in the skeletons that Paul has in his closet.
 
Mr. X said:
I personally find it odd that this story breaks when he is leading in national polls.

Its the curse. Once you hit top, someone is going to dig up your dirty laundry to knock you down.

Personally, I'm VERY interested in the skeletons that Paul has in his closet.
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The only ones I know of are that some ghostwriter for a publication in his name published some racist newsletters.
 
But, thats the thing... How many people knew what Herman was involved in before it hit news? Thats right. Not many.

Im not talking about 'bad boy, don't do that again' skeletons. Im talking about the 'holy crap man, why did you do that?' kind of skeletons.
 
Mr. X said:
I personally find it odd that this story breaks when he is leading in national polls.

Its the curse. Once you hit top, someone is going to dig up your dirty laundry to knock you down.

Personally, I'm VERY interested in the skeletons that Paul has in his closet.
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Rumor has it that Rick Perry himself had something to do with it being leaked to Politico.
 
Live_Wire466 said:


Rumor has it that Rick Perry himself had something to do with it being leaked to Politico.
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Didn't some people say that Rick Perry's staff were the ones who told told that one Tea Party group to tell Michele Bachmann to quit?
 
I thought Cain admitted (inadvertently) that he leaked the story himself a while back by talking with people about it. And did anyone see the video of Perry acting drunk and/or high in a speech in New Hampshire? What a sad lot the Republican field has become. I used to think that Romney was okay (for a Republican) but ever since I read about his time as a Mormon pastor when he tried to prevent a woman from getting a Mormon Church-approved abortion she needed to have in order to have a life-saving operation I've hated the guy for being a two-faced jerk.

If only there were someone who was honest and at the same time not crazy or extreme.
 
I try to stay away from most politics, but i'll have to agree with Locz on this. Out of all the Republicans, Ron Paul is proably the best choice.


Anyway, RonPaul>BarrackObama>Theotherrepublicancandidates.
 
Mr. X said:
I try to stay away from most politics, but i'll have to agree with Locz on this. Out of all the Republicans, Ron Paul is proably the best choice.


Anyway, RonPaul>BarrackObama>Theotherrepublicancandidates.
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My Top 3 choices in order of preference:
1) Ron Paul
2) Gary Johnson
3) Jon Huntsman
 
Jon Huntsman is the most moderate of them. As expected though, his budget plans cater to the rich. But I still think he deserves a bit more coverage.
 
Okay, so maybe I'm a little late to this revelation, but I only just heard about it last night. It seems that Cain is a closet Pokemon fan.



After hearing about this, and also that the sexual harassment settlement dates back to 9/99 I'm willing to believe Cain is trolling everyone.

I hope he wins the nomination now.
 
I know Scarf, I think that he googled for a quote, and didn't look past "Donna Summers" before he copied and pasted it into his speech. xD

These sexual harassment suits are finally becoming more concrete. From what I have watched the past couple of days, he asked a woman to perform oral sex on him, and he also reached up her skirt, which would really constitute as sexual assault. I don't think that there was enough information to say either way if he was liable, or exactly to what extent the allegations were. So I think as more information surfaces, Cain is going to plummet. Gingrich and Ron Paul will join Romney as the top tier candidates. Not jumping out of my seat for Gingrich...ugh.
 
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I know Scarf, I think that he googled for a quote, and didn't look past "Donna Summers" before he copied and pasted it into his speech. xD

These sexual harassment suits are finally becoming more concrete. From what I have watched the past couple of days, he asked a woman to perform oral sex on him, and he also reached up her skirt, which would really constitute as sexual assault. I don't think that there was enough information to say either way if he was liable, or exactly to what extent the allegations were. So I think as more information surfaces, Cain is going to plummet. Gingrich and Ron Paul will join Romney as the top tier candidates. Not jumping out of my seat for Gingrich...ugh.
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One Cain is toast, that makes Gingrich, Paul, and Romney the top-tier. Perry's 15 minutes of fame are up, and soon will be Cain's. Paul has a real shot, but it won't be easy.
 
I don't put much stock in all these women coming up and saying he harrassed them.

The only ones, in my mind that are truthful and should matter are the ones that have been settled in court. Other then those, any other claims have a greater chance of being made up then they do being true.
 
Perry completely kicked himself out of the race tonight. It's amazing that Newt Gingrich is still alive and fighting after so many years in Washington.
 
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