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Having a good lead can do a lot of things. With a good lead, you can get in some status, or a Hypnosis. With a bad lead, enemies can either KO you early, or force a member of your team to take a hit they don't want to.
 
Good leads are generally fun Pokemon. Crobat, Jumpluff, Scarf Transform Mew, etc.

There is no best physical sweeper, but some good ones are Garchomp, Metagross, Dragonite, Salamence, Breloom, Machamp, Medicham, Scizor...
 
However, they are one time uses. As Anti said,reserving an entire slot for that one use is ridiculous. Many pokes that have other uses makes perfect leads. Swampert, Yanmega, etc, all make great leads, and are actually useful later on.

You are just about out one pokemoin when you reserve aspot just for leading.
 
Well that's exactly it. I don't know what I want. If there are certain pokes for certain slots (special sweeper, special wall etc) can someone just list a team that has all the slots filled that's a pretty decent team? There must be a cookie cutter team and moveset no?
 
Hi, people. I like making teams, breeding, and training Pokemon, but when it comes to making a team I'm always brain-dead. Anyway, I am trying to build a new team, and I would really appreciate if anyone could tell me a 6th member that could aid my team. Here are the 5 Pokemon in my team and a few other notes:

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Tangrowth @Leftovers
Leaf Guard
Impish
252 HP/ 228 Def/ 30 Spd
~Leech Seed
~Sleep Powder
~Knock Off
~Power Whip

Yeah, a Smogon Standard. I should probably stick to these until I have more team making experience, eh? Anyway, Tangrowth has done wonders for me. There are better walls out there, I guess, but I really like Tangrowth. The weakness to ice, however, hurts me ;_;

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Tyranitar @ ??
Sand Stream
Jolly
252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 6 HP
~Crunch
~Dragon Dance
~Earthquake
~Ice Fang/Ice Beam

Dragon Dance Tyranitar. This thing is very powerful once it set up, and can dent a few things before he does so. Ice Fang seemed appealing due to the Dragon Dance boost, but I'm guessing Ice Beam does more to walls that try to stop Tyranitar. Or is Stone Edge a better choice? I don't know, but until now an Ice Attack helps.Item too, pl0x?

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Starmie @ ??
Natural Cure
Timid
162 HP/ 132 SpA/ 216 Spd
~Surf
~Rapid Spin
~Recover
~Ice Beam/ThunderBolt
Mah Spinner. This thing, too, has helped me out in a bunch of situations. I picked Ice Beam over T-Bolt for Dragons and Grass Types, but I'm not sure if that is really a smart move. I've been running this thing on Wise Glasses as a filler and for a small kick, but I'm guessing it's not the best. My dilemma here is on the last attack, I guess, because even though Ice Beam has been proved useful, maybe Thunderbolt will too, and even more.

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Snorlax @Leftovers
Thick Fat
Careful
170 HP / 120 Def / 220 SpD
~Rest
~Sleep Talk
~Body Slam
~Crunch
As you might or might not have noticed, that's a Sleep Talk Snorlax with the EV's for a Curselax. Yeah, might fix that later; but in the meantime, this fat guy is one of my favourite. Of course, when I wanted to build my team, I was all 'Well, Blissey', but I decided to go with Snorlax in the end. And it has never let me down. It takes Special Attacks like the beast it is and usually enver leaves the field before hacing taken someone down or at least crippled him badly. Also, I left Crunch for ghosts, and it has fared well, though i'm considering EQ...

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Magnezone @??
Magnet Pull
Modest
174 HP / 252 SpA / 84 Spe
~Magnet Rise
~Substitue
~Discharge
~Hidden Power Ice (63)
I used to have Electivire here, and it did help quite a bunch, but I decided to try Magnezone just to see what happened. It has let me down a few times, but luckily for him I'm forgiving :P I chose Discharge over Thunderbolt because I'm somewhat more of a defensive player on everything I do and crippling more opponents sounded nice. Discharge, however, has failed me. I've had Magnezone for relatively a long while, and I can count on one hand the times it has paralyzed opponents with Discharge >_>'. So, is Discharge worth it? Or should I plain out change Magnezone? ^^'.

Ok, this are the 5 Pokemon in my team currently, and I need help on a 6th Team Member. I probably have to many weaknesses like to be listed, so I need a Pokemon that can work wonders >>'. I don't know if it should be an offensive Pokemon, a Deffensive Pokemon, or a supporter. Things that have crossed my mind are: Salamence; I have a MixMence I trained a while ago and he... He is cool, I guess. Bronzong; to help me out with Tangrowth's Ice Weakness and to take Outrages or something. Plus, Reflect/Light Screen and Stealth Rock support is very much appreciated. Spiritomb; just 'cause I think he's cool. Swampert; 'cause i liek mudkipz. And many others, though I don't know why something tells me none is a good pick. Soo... Help, someone?
 
kman300 said:
Hey guys. I'm working with kids this summer and one of them has a bunch of cheated pokes that were raised to 100 per rare candy cheat. (ledgendaries etc)

I'd like a team that I can make to mop the floor with him and the other 15 kids or so that have pearl/diamond.

I have diamond only. What 6 pokes do you recommend with EV's and move sets that's an all round team, standard team, very popular or w/e that can take anything they throw at me. Keep in mind non of theirs have ev's or good move sets (most likely anyways). I have sapphire as well but would rather not restart that game if it's not needed.

Thanks
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Wow, we're in pretty similar shoes.

One of my friends is being constantly harassed by this noob who says that Blast Burn is always better than Heat Wave, and this noob's calling my friend a dumbass for saying the inverse. Not to mention, this kid's got a shitload of lv100 legendaries to show off, as well as a Wonder Guard Red Gyarados.

That's one reason I'm raising a team; to kick his ass. Presumably, since this kid rare candied all his pokemon to lv100, they're not gonna be EV trained. He probably won't be using items either, and if he does, they're probably noob items (i.e. Silk Scarf, Sharp Beak, etc.)

I need some good, solid advice on team roles; here's my current candidates for the big battle:

Opener
Jolteon @ Focus Sash
Timid
6 HP/252 SPATK/252 SPD
- Baton Pass
- Agility
- Substitute
- Charge Beam

Special Sweeper
Togekiss @ Lum Berry
Timid
6 HP/252 SPATK/252 SPD
- Nasty Plot
- Roost
- Aura Sphere
- Air Slash

Physical Sweeper
Garchomp @ Life Orb
Jolly
6 HP/252 ATK/252 SPD
- Swords Dance
- Fire Fang
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw

Physical Wall
Skarmory @ Shed Shell
Impish
252 HP/6 ATK/252 DEF
- Spikes
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Roost

Special Wall
Blissey @ Lefties
Bold
252 DEF/200 HP/58 SPDEF (? I still have yet to trade a Chansey from my FireRed to Emerald and breed for a good one.)
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Softboiled
- Heal Bell

Mixed Sweeper
Electrivire @ Expert Belt
Mild
138 ATK/120 SPATK/252 SPD (another Pokemon I haven't really bred for yet.)
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Flamethrower
- Cross Chop

Rapid Spinner/Stealth Rocker
Donphan @ Passho Berry
Impish
252 HP/58 ATK/200 DEF (3rd Pokemon not obtained yet)
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake

So I need moveset and EV spread suggestions for the Pokemon I don't have yet, especially for 'Vire and Blissey.
 
Fabian the Fastman said:
Wow, we're in pretty similar shoes.

One of my friends is being constantly harassed by this noob who says that Blast Burn is always better than Heat Wave, and this noob's calling my friend a dumbass for saying the inverse. Not to mention, this kid's got a shitload of lv100 legendaries to show off, as well as a Wonder Guard Red Gyarados.

That's one reason I'm raising a team; to kick his ass. Presumably, since this kid rare candied all his pokemon to lv100, they're not gonna be EV trained. He probably won't be using items either, and if he does, they're probably noob items (i.e. Silk Scarf, Sharp Beak, etc.)

I need some good, solid advice on team roles; here's my current candidates for the big battle:

Opener
Jolteon @ Focus Sash
Timid
6 HP/252 SPATK/252 SPD
- Baton Pass
- Agility
- Substitute
- Charge Beam

Pretty good. Assuming Charge Beam is there to give the BPer that extra boost, right? Always sub the first turn; he'll likely switch into a counter, and trust me, you don't want Jolteon to be hit too hard. I also suggest Petaya Berry >>>> Focus Sash. You'll be subbing, which ruins your Focus Sash. After a few subs, Petaya Berry will bring you up a SpA stage, so technically, after a Charge Beam, you'll be passing on a NP to Togekiss.

Special Sweeper
Togekiss @ Lum Berry
Timid
6 HP/252 SPATK/252 SPD
- Nasty Plot
- Roost
- Aura Sphere
- Air Slash

I like it, NP is the best set. If you want, try out these EV's: 252 HP, 152 SpA, 104 Spe

Physical Sweeper
Garchomp @ Life Orb
Jolly
6 HP/252 ATK/252 SPD
- Swords Dance
- Fire Fang
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw

Grand, you could try Sub > Fire Fang and Outrage > Dragon Claw because, seriously, a Swords Danced Outrage HURTS. And with sub, you have a turn of survivability.

Physical Wall
Skarmory @ Shed Shell
Impish
252 HP/6 ATK/252 DEF
- Spikes
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Roost

Dislike 252/252/6 sets on Skarm, but it's usable.

Special Wall
Blissey @ Lefties
Bold
252 DEF/200 HP/58 SPDEF (? I still have yet to trade a Chansey from my FireRed to Emerald and breed for a good one.)
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Softboiled
- Heal Bell

Hmm...I'd like to see 40 HP/252 Def/216 SpD for more special sponging.


Mixed Sweeper
Electrivire @ Expert Belt
Mild
138 ATK/120 SPATK/252 SPD (another Pokemon I haven't really bred for yet.)
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Flamethrower
- Cross Chop


Never use 'Vire. It's walled by too many things. I'd use something like a Scarfed Heatran or Choice Banded Weavile to revenge kill:

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Modest
252 SpA/42 HP/ 216 Spe
HP Ice/Dragon Pulse (if the former is too hard to get)
Fire Blast/Lava Plume/Overheat/Flamethrower
Earth Power
Explosion

Rapid Spinner/Stealth Rocker
Donphan @ Passho Berry
Impish
252 HP/58 ATK/200 DEF (3rd Pokemon not obtained yet)
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake

Donphan is outclassed, but whatever.

So I need moveset and EV spread suggestions for the Pokemon I don't have yet, especially for 'Vire and Blissey.
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I like you're team. Wonderguard Gyarados is retarded since everyone hits it for super effective. Good luck kicking the hackers undeserving ass.
 
Thanks! And yeah... ain't nothing like showing arrogant little kids they're not the best in the world.

EDIT: Forgot... Forry could run a good set similar to Donphan.
 
Forry is great, but I just noticed, you lacked a serious fighting resist. I'd either replace Vire or Phan with either a Weezing or Gliscor.
 
Okay, so I'm just on my last week of holidays and decided that I could maybe finish off my Gallade and do a last mnute EV training spree. Anyways, I'm aiming for 3 poke's at the end of it all that will look like this:
Infernape @ Life Orb
Jolly <6HP/252Attack/252Speed>
Swords Dance
Flare Blitz
Close Combat
Thunderpunch
Standard Physical Attacker. Nuf said. Wanna be original and MixApe is too common so this would be a bit of an unpredictable switch in. They'll think he's carrying CB. lolwut?

Gengar @ Wide Lens
Timid <6HP/252Sp.Attack/252Speed>
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Thunder Bolt
Focus Blast
Standard Gengar with Wide Lens. Wide Lens is for the accuracy as Hypnosis and Focus Blast are an important part of this moveset. No more said.

Heracross @ Flame Orb/Wide Lens
Adamant <6HP/252Attack/252Speed>
Swords Dance
Megahorn
Close Combat
Facade
Well I'm thinking Flame Orb to be original but Wide Lens would increase the accuracy of Magehorn. I'll be using Swarm to power up Megahorn. Not sure, never made a Heracross set before.

So, uhm, yeah, tell me what you think. They aren't going to be in my team but I'll put them in as substitutes or replacements if one of my team poke's isn't working.
 
Go Stone Edge > Thunderpunch on Nape. It's more useful and more powerful.
 
How's this for an Umbreon set? I already have Gliscor so I was thinking of making this guy a Special Wall.

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Careful Nature (+SpD, -SpA)
252 HP /56 Def /200 SpD
- Baton Pass
- Mean Look
- Toxic
- Wish

EDIT: I feel kinda stupid now. I meant Special Wall, not Special Sweeper >_>
 
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Umbreon cannot do the job of a special wall well, due to its weaknesses and its inability to prevent setups (eg. if a Togekiss Nasty Plots, what can it do?)

I wouldn't recommend a special wall per se as judging by my previous battles, noone runs them and more often than not they provide free switch ins. Your best bets should be either Blissey or Shuckle (the latter in Sandstorm, which Tyranitar or Hippowdon can set up):

Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm, 252 Def/80 SpA/176 SpD
Natural Cure

Seismic Toss
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave
Softboiled

Shuckle @ Leftovers
Impish/Relaxed/Bold, 252 HP/252 Def/4 SpD
Sturdy/Gluttony

Toxic
Encore
Rest
Stealth Rock/Knock Off/Body Slam/Sleep Talk
 
Uh there are a lot of downsides to using Shuckle > Blissey if you haven't noticed, I would say go Blissey. Shuckle can wall physical stuff but would take a huge hit, and if Stealth Rocks are up on the field it would rob it of 25% health everytime it switches in. It still has more weaknesses than Blissey, including most notably the Water weakness.
 
Aquilae said:
Umbreon cannot do the job of a special wall well, due to its weaknesses and its inability to prevent setups (eg. if a Togekiss Nasty Plots, what can it do?)
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Yawn! But yeah, I agree that Umbreon shouldn't be walling stuff.

Aquilae said:
I wouldn't recommend a special wall per se as judging by my previous battles, noone runs them and more often than not they provide free switch ins. Your best bets should be either Blissey or Shuckle (the latter in Sandstorm, which Tyranitar or Hippowdon can set up):
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And I agree again. Having a Pokémon designed just to wall Sp. Atks, that's not called Blissey, is going to be a deadweight more often than you expect. One other alternative is using Special Sponges. I use Lanturn it works great, since it has a huge number of resistances, and both its weakness are very predictable.
 
King Tyranitar said:
I like you're team. Wonderguard Gyarados is retarded since everyone hits it for super effective. Good luck kicking the hackers undeserving ass.
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One more thing... Jolteon's main purpose is to BP off an agility to Togekiss, so when Togekiss NP's, he's not only deadly, but he's fast too.
 
Yay or nay?

Weavile @ Focus Sash
Jolly Nature
252 Atk / 216 Spd / 40 HP
- Swords Dance
- Ice Shard
- Night Slash
- Brick Break
Gengar @ Life Orb
Timid Nature
252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
- Hypnosis
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
Starmie @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
160 HP / 132 Sp.Atk / 216 Spd
- Thunderbolt
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
- Surf
Hariyama@Leftovers
76 HP / 252 Def / 180 Atk
Impish Nature
- Knock Off
- Whirlwind
- Force Palm
- Stone Edge
Gliscor @ Leftovers
Impish Nature
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Atk
- Earthquake
- Aerial Ace
- Stealth Rock
- Roost
Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm Nature
252 Def / 216 Sp.Def / 40 Sp.Atk
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Toxic
- Softboiled
 
hey guys, i just recieved a beauty of a chimchar in a trade, and i wanna utiliize its nasty IVs and naive nature. Im pretty much wondering if for the chim listed below, is there a better moveset than a standard mixape (include ev spreads and items)

Chimchar- Naive
31/13/14/31/21/31
 
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