Request an Individual Move Set Thread

[homsar]

I'm looking for a moveset on a EV'd Frosslass I received in a trade. Currently it has the moves Ominous Wind/Blizzard/Ice Beam/Hail. Im think of using it as weather support or spikes/thunder wave support. Any suggestions?

 

[ABYAY]

Well...That's a Faillass. lol try this.

Froslass@Leftovers/Focus Sash
Timid
252sp.atk/252speed/6HP

Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Spikes/Shadow Ball/Destiny Bond
Thunder Wave

You'll have to breed for Spikes. Otherwise, you could try this.

Froslass@Choice Scarf *...wtf?*
Lonely
204atk/112sp.atk/196speed

Shadow Ball
Ice Beam
Wake-Up Slap
Destiny Bond

No bolting here sadly, but you could toss it in there at your own expense. Wake-Up Slap seems like a joke, but it 2HKOs Tyranitar and OHKOs Weavile, which you outspeed. Destiny Bond will down anything troublesome. Lastly, there's Choice Specs if you wanna give it a go.

 

[homsar]

Spikes is a egg move, I did not know that. Thanks for the sets, I think mine is best suited for that first set.

 

[.]

Need a set for a Rest Cresselia and a Rest Bronzong.


I was thinking of the following:

Cresselia @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP, 108 Def, 148 SpD
Rest
Charge Beam
Reflect/Thunder Wave/Sleep Talk
Ice Beam


Or maybe Bronzong

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP, 96 SpD, 152 Def, 8 Att (EV's slightly changed from Smogon for more survivability)
Gyro Ball
Reflect/Sleep Talk/Reflect/Stealth Rock
Hypnosis
Stealth Rock/Reflect/Sleep Talk


What would do better at countering Mamo, Duggy, Chomp, etc...

 

[Dark Azelf]

Need a set for a Rest Cresselia and a Rest Bronzong.


I was thinking of the following:

Cresselia @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP, 108 Def, 148 SpD
Rest
Charge Beam
Reflect/Thunder Wave/Sleep Talk
Ice Beam


Or maybe Bronzong

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP, 96 SpD, 152 Def, 8 Att (EV's slightly changed from Smogon for more survivability)
Gyro Ball
Reflect/Sleep Talk/Reflect/Stealth Rock
Hypnosis
Stealth Rock/Reflect/Sleep Talk


What would do better at countering Mamo, Duggy, Chomp, etc...

Either would work, im not a fan of Rest-Zong, nor Rest cress, as both are offensively retarded making it an easy and essentially a free switch in to become set up fodder.

Both have great utility moves so they should be utilized.

Anyways, if you DO use rest -talk zong, more attack needs to be invested, aka 152.

Just get wish support if your that worried about recovery.


Bronzong@Leftovers / Shed Shell
252 HP / 152 ATT / 8 def / 96 sp.def
Relaxed Nature
Trait : levitate
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Earthquake
- Gyro ball

OR

Bronzong@Leftovers
252 HP / 72 ATT / 112 DEF / 74 SP.DEF
Relaxed Nature
Trait : levitate
- Hypnosis
- Stealth Rock / Reflect / Light Screen
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake / Reflect / Light Screen




Cresselia@Leftovers
20 HP / 252 DEF / 236 SP.ATT.
Modest Nature
- Ice Beam
- Thunderwave / Charge beam / Psychic / Hidden power {Ground/Fighting}
- Moonlight
- Reflect

So you dont get owned by Pursuit, and this set allows you to ohko said Chomp with ice Beam.

Moves in second slot depend on what you want to hit, T-Wave slows stuf down, Charge Beam for Gyara, Psychic for Machamp etc, HP Fight to hit T-Tar and Weavile switch ins and HP Ground for Heatran.

Best used with Wish support ^^.



OR

Cresselia@Leftovers
252 HP / 108 Def / 148 Sp.D
Bold Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- ice Beam
- Thunderwave / Charge Beam / Psychic.


W/E >_>.

 

[.]

How about Suicune? Can it do well against Mamo, etc..? I REALLY want to try it out. Thanks for the sets by the way D_A <3

 

[Dark Azelf]

How about Suicune? Can it do well against Mamo, etc..? I REALLY want to try it out. Thanks for the sets by the way D_A <3

CB Earthquake HURTS. IIRC it did like 43% ~ to my Forretress, so i dont think Cune can take repeated beatings from it.

 

[.]

Of course it hurts, but I think Cune can OHKO Mamo and Duggy w/ Surf and either OHKO or 2HKO with Ice Beam.

I'll replace Suicune later, but I want to try it out. Is Ice Beam/Surf/Rest/Calm Mind a good moveset? Can I have EVs that support this moveset?

 

[Dark Azelf]

Of course it hurts, but I think Cune can OHKO Mamo and Duggy w/ Surf and either OHKO or 2HKO with Ice Beam.

I'll replace Suicune later, but I want to try it out. Is Ice Beam/Surf/Rest/Calm Mind a good moveset? Can I have EVs that support this moveset?

If you let cune get below 80 % youll die, as eq already does 40%, so you cant switch in.

Duggy cant even do squat to cune anyways with its eq lol

Anyways, Sleep Talk-less Rest is not good in D/P, so much stuff gets free switch in.


Try CroCune.


Suicune@Leftovers
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF
Bold nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Surf
- Calm Mind

Owns.

 

[.]

Can I PP stall other water types?

 

[Dark Azelf]

Can I PP stall other water types?

Yes, only water absorbers.

Because you 2hko other non water absorb water types with +6 surfs lol.

 

[.]

I'll try it out. Suicune looked so impressive from vids. Does GlisBlissCune makes a good walling trio or not?

 

[Dark Azelf]

I'll try it out. Suicune looked so impressive from vids. Does GlisBlissCune makes a good walling trio or not?

Its ok. Just watch out for Mixape, Grass Knot hits Cune for 100 Base power >_<, NP Grass Knot OHKO's it also.

 

[.]

Couldn't Scarftran come in on a GK and OHKO it with Earth Power?

 

[ABYAY]

Maybe, but if you come in on Close Combat, you're screwed. Otherwise, you're safe (O noes HP GROUND!) However, if you switch it in on MixApe, then it's going to know you're Scarf'd 95% of the time.

For Rest-Talk Cresselia, if you want it to counter MixApe, then Psychic is a must. Charge Beam hits Gyarados and can break a stall war, and Ice Beam is for Dragons.

 

[.]

Prediction is easy, but I could also come in on a Flamethrower, and people could guess I'm a nub thinking a Fire boost will win me the match.

 

[sims796]

How are these EV's for this set?

Tangrowth@Leftovers
Nature:Impish
EV:252 HP/200 Def/58 Atk
Power Whip
Knock Off
Leech Seed
Tickle

Ignore the Tickle, I'm just having fun with that for a while. But are the EV's sound? That, or

252 HP, 220 Def, 36 Atk

But that seems like overkill to me.

 

[kman300]

Hey guys. I'm working with kids this summer and one of them has a bunch of cheated pokes that were raised to 100 per rare candy cheat. (ledgendaries etc)

I'd like a team that I can make to mop the floor with him and the other 15 kids or so that have pearl/diamond.

I have diamond only. What 6 pokes do you recommend with EV's and move sets that's an all round team, standard team, very popular or w/e that can take anything they throw at me. Keep in mind non of theirs have ev's or good move sets (most likely anyways). I have sapphire as well but would rather not restart that game if it's not needed.

Thanks

 

[.]

Well, what are you looking for? You'll need omething along these lines:

Special Sweeper
Special Wall
Physical Sweeper
Physical Wall
Status Absorber
Cleric/Late Game Sweeper/Good Lead

List the Pokes you intend to use.

 

[sims796]

There isn't a position for "good lead" reserved on a team, as Anti had said better than me:

also looking for a pokemon just to lead sounds king of silly. Yeah they get you off to a good start but after that it's 6 vs. 5 essentially (ahem, 5 + death fodder!) My most successful teams had awful leads and they turned out okay.

But the first four, yeah, those are the most basic parts of team building, and we can't live without the basics. Personally,I don't feel a "status absorber"is most important to reserve a spot for. Aromatherapy is still a very killer move, and you can't negate secondary effects of moves (Fire Punch, for instance) from affecting something that's not the absorber. It's useful to have, but not "TEH BASEIKS".

The other two to me are more optionary, and what you want to add, or,more importantly what you need to add to make the team work. Mixed walls, cleric, etc.