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Oh, sorry, I just saw your Avatar. My bad. HE.
 
I was just recommending my opinion on what a viable Luvdisc moveset is, Smogon's analysis is not really serious considering they actually put attacks on luvdisc =O

Anyways as I said the most Luvdisc can do to get by is annoy and setup Rain Dance and Safeguard, abusing Swift Swim and confusion. Focus Sash was there because Luvdisc did not have the defenses to take a hit and would allow an almost guaranteed Rain Dance.

I strongly believe Luvdisc has the movepool to annoy if the said player is lucky. In that case Attract + Confusion is only a 25% chance of the pokemon moving, 50% chance that the Confusion will work first turn.

In any case I outlined the superiority of Qwilfish to Luvdisc as it gets Twave when Attract and sweet kiss can be automatically nulled by switching out. Taunt stops a lot of setuppers and statusers.
 
Aquilae said:
I was just recommending my opinion on what a viable Luvdisc moveset is, Smogon's analysis is not really serious considering they actually put attacks on luvdisc =O

Anyways as I said the most Luvdisc can do to get by is annoy and setup Rain Dance and Safeguard, abusing Swift Swim and confusion. Focus Sash was there because Luvdisc did not have the defenses to take a hit and would allow an almost guaranteed Rain Dance.

I strongly believe Luvdisc has the movepool to annoy if the said player is lucky. In that case Attract + Confusion is only a 25% chance of the pokemon moving, 50% chance that the Confusion will work first turn.
& 50% chance the gender is the same :P Does Attract work against Genderless? I never tried it.

In any case I outlined the superiority of Qwilfish to Luvdisc as it gets Twave when Attract and sweet kiss can be automatically nulled by switching out. Taunt stops a lot of setuppers and statusers.
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Oh, I know. I was really critisizing the fact that it is Luvdics ONLY options. Seeing that it only works against pokes of the different gender, and it get's taken out by a Quick Attack. Don't worry, I'm not really getting on you, but on Luvdisc, for her poor options.

I mean, it might work against me, I get haxed in standard battles (wifi or not) far too many times. Ask DA. However, that being her only options? I always say annoyers suck, but Luvdisc takes it to a new low. Of course, tha's even hoping that Sweet Kiss, with 75% accuraccy, hits in the first place.

I don't know what Luvdisc did to Game Freak, but she deserves better than that. Same with Farfeche'd. Oh, & Flareon. He needs it most.
 
sims796 said:
Oh, I know. I was really critisizing the fact that it is Luvdics ONLY options. Seeing that it only works against pokes of the different gender, and it get's taken out by a Quick Attack. Don't worry, I'm not really getting on you, but on Luvdisc, for her poor options.

I mean, it might work against me, I get haxed in standard battles (wifi or not) far too many times. Ask DA. However, that being her only options? I always say annoyers suck, but Luvdisc takes it to a new low. Of course, tha's even hoping that Sweet Kiss, with 75% accuraccy, hits in the first place.

I don't know what Luvdisc did to Game Freak, but she deserves better than that. Same with Farfeche'd. Oh, & Flareon. He needs it most.
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yeah farfeched is rubbish but is an uber compared to luvdisk!
 
Alright, that was fun, but I have a serious question. What's the standard set for Espeon? Leafeon?

I can't find the thread.

EDIT: I MEANT ESPEON! Sorry.
 
sims796 said:
Alright, that was fun, but I have a serious question. What's the standard set for Espeon? Leafeon?

I can't find the thread.

EDIT: I MEANT ESPEON! Sorry.
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You mean Espyjump ?


Espeon@Leftovers / Salac Berry
Timid Nature
132 HP / 122 SP.DEF / 252 SPEED
- Psychic
- Calm mind
- Baton Pass
- Substitute

132 hp for 304 hp, which = max leftovers recovery.

EDIT:

Spammy previous page is spammy >=[
 
Which would be better in my team?

Azumarill @ Choice Band
Adamant
Huge Power
-Aqua Tail
-Iron Tail
-Rollout
-Waterfall

OR

Empoleon @ Expert Belt/Choice Specs
Hasty
Torrent
-Surf
-Blizzard
-Ice Beam
-Water Pulse

Thankies~
 
They're both terrible movesets, but I can't even fix it. I need to know the rest of the members of your team first.
 
Here goes...

Infernape @ Charcoal
Careful
Blaze
-Flare Blitz
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot

Dragonite @ Persim Berry
Naughty
Inner Focus
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Fire Punch
-??? (considering Waterfall or Earthquake)

Garchomp @ Life Orb/Shell Bell
Gentle
Sand Veil
-Dragon Claw
-Dragon Rush (replace w/ Fire Fang?)
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance

Raichu @ Magnet
Naive
Static
-Thunderbolt
-Nasty Plot
-Volt Tackle
-Brick Break

Note: I have reservations about going pure-physical for my Raichu since he can't learn Swords Dance/Bulk Up. ><

Lucario @ Wide Lens
Quiet
Steadfast
-Aura Sphere
-Psychic
-Flash Cannon
-Foresight (anti-Wondertomb)

Weavile @ Scope Lens
Modest
Pressure
-Dig/Aerial Ace
-Avalanche
-Night Slash
-Swords Dance

6th slot will be either Azumarill or Empoleon... Weavile's just a placeholder...
 
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Konvict said:
Here goes...

Infernape @ Charcoal
Careful
Blaze
-Flare Blitz
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot

Dragonite @ Persim Berry
Naughty
Inner Focus
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Fire Punch
-??? (considering Waterfall or Earthquake)

Garchomp @ Life Orb/Shell Bell
Gentle
Sand Veil
-Dragon Claw
-Dragon Rush (replace w/ Fire Fang?)
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance

Raichu @ Magnet
Naive
Static
-Thunderbolt
-Nasty Plot
-Volt Tackle
-Brick Break

Note: I have reservations about going pure-physical for my Raichu since he can't learn Swords Dance/Bulk Up. ><

Lucario @ Wide Lens
Quiet
Steadfast
-Aura Sphere
-Psychic
-Flash Cannon
-Foresight (anti-Wondertomb)

Weavile @ Scope Lens
Modest
Pressure
-Dig/Aerial Ace
-Avalanche
-Night Slash
-Swords Dance

6th slot will be either Azumarill or Empoleon... Weavile's just a placeholder...
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This entire team needs work, so I cannot suggest either. If you want the best help, I suggest you make a new thread, and you will get a better answer. But until then, all the moveselts are effed up, and adding one of those two now will only make it worse.
 
Well, now, not ALL the movesets are messed up. All the NATURES are fubar, but the movesets on Dragonite and Garchomp look about right (with Earthquake and Fire Fang, respectively).

By the way, wide lense increases your accuracy. So why have it on something with 100% accurate moves?
 
Konvict said:
Err, I was thinking of that thing that ups Sp. Atk...
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Well, you've got Choice Specs, which ups your Sp. Atk by x1.5, however you can only use one attacking move until you switch out. Then there is Life Orb which ups both attack stats by x1.2, however it comes at a cost of 10% HP every time you use an attacking move. And you won't need foresight anyway; if you come up against somebody who uses Wondertomb, then they're a hacker and, in my eyes, you automatically win the battle. Simple as that.
 
umbros said:
Well, now, not ALL the movesets are messed up. All the NATURES are fubar, but the movesets on Dragonite and Garchomp look about right (with Earthquake and Fire Fang, respectively).

By the way, wide lense increases your accuracy. So why have it on something with 100% accurate moves?
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Yes, they are. Having half the moves right doesn't mean anything. He has two type attacks on almost every poke, I don't see any EVs, the items are terrible, the team settup is bad (especially since he has no walls), etc. Having Wide Lens is the least of his worries.


I'm not trying to make you feel bad, Konvict, nor am I trying to sound like a jerk, but I won't sugarcoat it, this team needs major work. I can't work in Azumarill or Empoleon until the problems in this team is fixed. I STRONGLY advise you to create your own thread, and you'll get much more help.



EDIT: Well, I was hoping for a Magnezone set, please. I was planning on using it as my main sweeper, but Smogon sucks all sorts of arse.
 
Magnezone's analysis has two good sets. EVs might need some work.
 
sims796 said:
EDIT: Well, I was hoping for a Magnezone set, please. I was planning on using it as my main sweeper, but Smogon sucks all sorts of arse.
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Magnezone@leftovers
172 HP / 252 Sp.A / 84 Speed
Modest Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden power {Ice]
- Substitute
- magnet Rise

Screws up steels good and proper >=]. 84 speed evs puts you above min speed Skarmory.


Magnezone@Life Orb
88 HP / 88 Atk / 248 SpA / 84 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden power {Ice]
- Explosion / Metal Sound
- magnet Rise / Flash Cannon


Yeah....



Or you can use Scarf if you want to be more "sweepy"

Magnezone@Choice Scarf
Timid/Hasty Nature
6 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED
- Hidden power Ice
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Explosion / Tri Attack

Since its slow, 240 Speed which Timid grants@Scarf, would put you above max sped Azelf, Raikou and Starmie IIRC.
 
Ok, so I've decided to start coppletely over. This is gonna be my first ev-trained team so I want it to be really good so I want to make sure I have the right pokemon first. Tis is the team I was thinking of -

Empoleon
Infernape/Lucario
Snorlax/Blissey
Dusknoir
Garchomp
Roserade

Is this ok so far?
 
Ok. Will do, but first i should go with Lucario over Infernape and Snorlax over Blissey right?
 
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