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[Azonic]

I use the following physial pikachu:
Chu@Light Ball
Adamant
252Att/252Spd/6HP
Thunderpunch
Brick Break/Focus Punch
Return
Agility

If you insist on Phicical pikachu try this set!

Light Ball (Obviosly)
6 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature
-Thunderpunch
-Brick Break
-Focus punch/
-Substitute (may as well try to take a hit)

Pikachu doesnt really work as phisical sweeper though.

Why have Light Ball on a physical Pikachu? It only doubles the Special Attack stat. ._. Pikachu can't physically sweep for crap. It has a base 55 attack stat, and it won't even to 5% to Blissey. Defenses also suck, and Speed is the only stat that is anywhere near average. Don't use physical Pikachu. =/

 

[Aquilae]

Light Ball doubles both Attack and SpA ._. And Pikachu's attack stat is 5 points higher than its SpA ._.

Regardless I would recommend the Mixed Sweeper set. Always use +Speed because Pikachu needs all the speed it can get. Sub/Encore is pretty meh, the stuff that would try to status you would be either faster or would switch out, Dusknoir is also a special case considering it gets Shadow Sneak.

 

[devilicious]

It only doubles the Special Attack stat. ._.

https://www.smogon.com/dp/items/light_ball

Doubles Pikachu's Attack and Special Attack.

 

[sims796]

I know, mabey its me being picky but I like my pokemon to be able to do good defending, attacking and be good all round. I dont like settling one job on one pokemon as if they down say....your phisical sweeper you are screwed when blissy comes out, better to be balanced on all fronts.

That is also known as being wishy-washy. Yes, certain pokes must be assigned one job, trying to force it to be all around will greatly weaken most pokes. If your physical sweeper is dead, you should have a back-up threat to wipe out Blissey.

A team with every poke all round phails to teams with specialized pokes.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Well, i was looking at Crawdaunts stats and it looks as though it has the good offensive capabilities to be a sort of mix sweeper so to speak..


Crawdaunt@Life Orb
252 ATT / 70 SP.ATT / 188 SPEED
Naughty Nature
Trait : Hyper Cutter
- Ice Beam
- Crunch
- Surf
- Super Power


This spread 2hko's(53% minimum) max hp / min sp.def neutral Skarmory with surf, OHKO'S Garchomp with Ice Beam, Does 89.92% - 105.74% to max hp / max def bold blissey with super power and 2hko's all max hp and max def Celebi, Cresselia and Dusknoir with Crunch =D (By 2hko, i mean doesnt just scrape 2hko's, i mean really REALLY dents them). It even does 50.33% - 59.21% to Max hp / 100 def neutral spiritomb with Crunch.

Main issue is its ass speed, 193 isnt enough =[, but with an Agility passed to it,from say Zapdos or something, i think it will be capable of hurting ALOT of things. I was contemplating HP Grass and Electric for bulky waters namely Gyarados, and swampert, but i figured it to be pointless tbh. I also know its walled hard by swampert, Bronzong, Suicune etc, but meh...


Opinions, thoughts, suggestions ?

 

[Ambient]

Well, i was looking at Crawdaunts stats and it looks as though it has the good offensive capabilities to be a sort of mix sweeper so to speak..


Crawdaunt@Life Orb
252 ATT / 70 SP.ATT / 188 SPEED
Naughty Nature
Trait : Hyper Cutter
- Ice Beam
- Crunch
- Surf
- Super Power


This spread 2hko's(53% minimum) max hp / min sp.def neutral Skarmory with surf, OHKO'S Garchomp with Ice Beam, Does 89.92% - 105.74% to max hp / max def bold blissey with super power and 2hko's all max hp and max def Celebi, Cresselia and Dusknoir with Crunch =D (By 2hko, i mean doesnt just scrape 2hko's, i mean really REALLY dents them). It even does 50.33% - 59.21% to Max hp / 100 def neutral spiritomb with Crunch.

Main issue is its ass speed, 193 isnt enough =[, but with an Agility passed to it,from say Zapdos or something, i think it will be capable of hurting ALOT of things. I was contemplating HP Grass and Electric for bulky waters namely Gyarados, and swampert, but i figured it to be pointless tbh. I also know its walled hard by swampert, Bronzong, Suicune etc, but meh...


Opinions, thoughts, suggestions ?

I think it has potential, highlighted in that set. Maybe it'd be of more use with a Brave nature in a Trick Room team, if not Speed passed ideally from Ninjask, Jolteon or Zapdos. But I can see it playing successfully in the OU tier, any idea why it's not BL?

 

[devilicious]

I've used a similar Crawdaunt on UU with Hidden Power [Grass] instead of Superpower and it worked very very well.

Agility + Petaya Pass from Masquerain = ♥

 

[Anti]

Well, i was looking at Crawdaunts stats and it looks as though it has the good offensive capabilities to be a sort of mix sweeper so to speak..


Crawdaunt@Life Orb
252 ATT / 70 SP.ATT / 188 SPEED
Naughty Nature
Trait : Hyper Cutter
- Ice Beam
- Crunch
- Surf
- Super Power


This spread 2hko's(53% minimum) max hp / min sp.def neutral Skarmory with surf, OHKO'S Garchomp with Ice Beam, Does 89.92% - 105.74% to max hp / max def bold blissey with super power and 2hko's all max hp and max def Celebi, Cresselia and Dusknoir with Crunch =D (By 2hko, i mean doesnt just scrape 2hko's, i mean really REALLY dents them). It even does 50.33% - 59.21% to Max hp / 100 def neutral spiritomb with Crunch.

Main issue is its ass speed, 193 isnt enough =[, but with an Agility passed to it,from say Zapdos or something, i think it will be capable of hurting ALOT of things. I was contemplating HP Grass and Electric for bulky waters namely Gyarados, and swampert, but i figured it to be pointless tbh. I also know its walled hard by swampert, Bronzong, Suicune etc, but meh...


Opinions, thoughts, suggestions ?

I honestly wouldn't worry about 2HKOing Leftovers Skarmory since they are so rare (they all have Shed Shell). Besides, SR will screw over Leftovers Skarmory or even hail (lol) damage, so I'd invest in more speed.

Forretress is kinda in the same boat, only its recovery is horrible and it can't hurt Crawdaunt. And for the record, I agree that Hidden Power would be a rather futile attempt at "beating" bulky waters (especially those with HP electric for Gyarados).

EDIT: Oh, I like the set BTW. lol

 

[Dark Azelf]

I've used a similar Crawdaunt on UU with Hidden Power [Grass] instead of Superpower and it worked very very well.

Agility + Petaya Pass from Masquerain = ♥

I honestly wouldn't worry about 2HKOing Leftovers Skarmory since they are so rare (they all have Shed Shell). Besides, SR will screw over Leftovers Skarmory or even hail (lol) damage, so I'd invest in more speed.

Forretress is kinda in the same boat, only its recovery is horrible and it can't hurt Crawdaunt. And for the record, I agree that Hidden Power would be a rather futile attempt at "beating" bulky waters (especially those with HP electric for Gyarados).

EDIT: Oh, I like the set BTW. lol

In UU, i would say 100% yes to HP Grass, due to Quagsire, Gastrodon and that other Water/Ground i cant quite recall the name of XD. Swampert is the only thing it would it HARD in OU. Suicune and other bulky waters dont take too much from GP Grass or Electric sadly (apart from Gyarados) =[..

I may possibly cut down the speed just to beat min speed Skarm and invest more in sp.att..hmmm..

 

[devilicious]

If you don't plan on passing speed to it, I think 177 Speed is enough.
Since I was passing Agility, I went with 192 so I could outspeed Swellow after the pass.

 

[SmashBrony]

There are less than six Pokemon that meet that criteria. Please, if you're going to play in Uber battles, USE UBERS.

I'm gonna use this as a standrad team...

I'm gonna use this as a standrad team...

& the list is off of smogon that says those pokemon are also used in uber battles.
( I could'nt figure out the edit thingy...)

 

[devilicious]

They're used in uber battles, but in conjuction with ubers.

Also, why would you want a Standard team with Pokémon usable in ubers if you're not going to battle ubers?

 

[airconditioning]

Doesn't mean that an entire team of those guys can take on Ubers easily. It's like using UUs against an OU team- it's not impossible, but you need to be REALLY good to do it. And forgive me for being frank, but you're not giving off that 'expert battler' vibe. =/

 

[SmashBrony]

They're used in uber battles, but in conjuction with ubers.

Also, why would you want a Standard team with Pokémon usable in ubers if you're not going to battle ubers?

I figured that the pokemon that can fight ubers would the best choice againt any standrad foes.

Doesn't mean that an entire team of those guys can take on Ubers easily. It's like using UUs against an OU team- it's not impossible, but you need to be REALLY good to do it. And forgive me for being frank, but you're not giving off that 'expert battler' vibe. =/

I'm gonna fight an foe in the standrad field sometime...
I decided on these pokemon so far:
Metagross
Blissey
Garchomp

hmm...pehaps I should have a supportive psyically defensive pokemon, like Scizor or Forretress that can hurt the foe when needed....& desite the years I sent playing the game, I'm practially new, since i don't have anyone else in the family that liked playing the game like I do...& i'm like a prisoner in my own home...(well, prisoner is a REALLY strong word for it, but I don't what else to descibe it as...)

Altough they're not used in ubers(not that it matters any, as this is a standrad field team), I was strongly considering Azelf or Gengar as my special sweeper...
or I may have Porygon-Z, or even Yanmega...

 

[sims796]

NO.

Just because it is good in ubers doesn't make it good in OU. You must completely revamp your team for uber, leaving you unable to handle OU. Shedinja is a great example.

 

[SmashBrony]

NO.

Just because it is good in ubers doesn't make it good in OU. You must completely revamp your team for uber, leaving you unable to handle OU. Shedinja is a great example.

...I should've specifeid the ones with high stats, like Blissey or Tyranitar....
Anyway, I'll be using gengar as my special sweeper...still wondering what my last 2 pokemon will...I guess I'll focus on the 4 & then analze their weaknesses & cover them with the last 2...

 

[BobberyJo]

That's not the point he was making. The Uber Tier has a completely different metagame.
You need different EV's, movesets and etc.

Just becasue something is good in OU doesn't meen it's good in UBers.
Also, just because somehing is bad in OU doesn't meen it's bad in UBers.

A good example is shedninja.

 

[Sexycheese]

I quite like shedinja but its hp makes you want to scream as it is easily downed by weather and status effects but anyway does anyone have a moveset for it please? by the way shedinja is UU right?

P.s: Sims I dont want to be seen as rude but you say balanced pokemon fail against specialists? My win record would suggest otherwise.

 

[Magmortified]

...I should've specifeid the ones with high stats, like Blissey or Tyranitar....
Anyway, I'll be using gengar as my special sweeper...still wondering what my last 2 pokemon will...I guess I'll focus on the 4 & then analze their weaknesses & cover them with the last 2...

If you're going to use things like Gengar, then, good gosh, man, just build a straightup OU team and build a seperate Ubers team. This is better to ensure success in both tiers instead of trying to make an interchangeable team that quite likely succeeds in neither.

As the others have said, the OUs that work out in Ubers require very different standard sets. Those standard sets don't tend to work out the best in OU. By definition of packing an interchangeable team you're going to need two different variants of the same Pokemon for general success. Which raises the question of why you're not using a seperate team altogether?

 

[Dark Azelf]

I quite like shedinja but its hp makes you want to scream as it is easily downed by weather and status effects but anyway does anyone have a moveset for it please? by the way shedinja is UU right?

P.s: Sims I dont want to be seen as rude but you say balanced pokemon fail against specialists? My win record would suggest otherwise.

Whos to say you havent been battling compete nubs ? Win records are irrelevant =p. Anyways, i wouldnt say balanced pokemon fail, so to speak, but they wont do certain jobs as good as specialist pokemon, a good example would be Mesprit who can do ANY job basically, from Spiking, to tanking, even sweeping etc vs Hippowdon at physical walling, in comparison of physical walling Mesprit pales to hippow.

Shedinja is BL. Buts its usable in ubers, as there are less things that kill you there, the only real Spiker in Uber are the not so common Skarmory, Forry and Deoxys Defense. Weather changers you have to fear is basically t-tar. its actually fun to switch into Kyogre and go OLOL, but be careful, some of them pack toxic just to hit sheddy.


Shedinja@Focus Sash / Lum Berry
Adamant Nature
252 ATT / 4 DEF / 252 SPEED
- X-Scissor
- Shadow Sneak
- WIll-o-wisp / Toxic
- Swords Dance


Def evs are for if your passing it subs, and let face it, those last 4 evs havent got anywhere better to go lol.


OR


Shedinja@Choice Band
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 4 DEF
Adamant Nature
- X-Scissor
- Shadow Claw
- Shadow Sneak
- Aerial Ace

Obligatory CB Set.

Spoiler:

Shedinja@Life Orb *Stalling Ninja*
252 HP / 252 def / 6 SPEED
- Sandstorm
- Double Edge
- Rest
- Substitute

Only use with Abomasnow, t-tar and Hippow support

OLOL