Request an Individual Move Set Thread

[airconditioning]

We were talking about Deoxys Speed here, not Deoxys Attack. Speed doesn't like Shadow Ball, because it does ass to everything it's supposed to counter. As for Attack, I have no idea what the standard for him is. So I guess Shadow Ball works, but I have no idea. :|

 

[Pogiforce-14]

oh, okay. a friend of mine who claims to be good at pokemon says Deoxys-S was bad, and that Deoxys-A and Deoxys-D were better. I just picked the one of the two that sounded more appealing to me. :\

 

[airconditioning]

Your friend seems pretty slow on the uptake. Deoxys Speed was bad- when it was an Uber. It has since been moved down to OU, where it's been fitting in quite well. 95 base Atk/ SAtk isn't so bad when you can outrun everything and hit everything SE.

 

[sims796]

And it isn't soo powerful either. Priority moves are it's bane. As is Grumpig.

 

[Pogiforce-14]

not familiar with the acronyms, SE lost me. My friend doesn't like D/P, so he refuses to keep up with it. He was just going off of what Advanced was.

I honestly don't build my teams around OU, UU, Uber though because I have never battled in a league set up before. just PBR randoms and friends around the neighborhood. I used to run Deoxys in my party, and my friend would say "you know Deoxys is an uber, and if you're going to use him your opponent's allowed to use an entire team of ubers on you if they want." in the end though it wasn't the possible threat of uber aggression that got me to stop using him, but how unfair he was against those people I were playing who didn't use Ubers. (save for a friend using Wobbuffet, but that wasn't that hard to overcome.)

 

[sims796]

Super Effective.

Deo does it much.

 

[Pogiforce-14]

Ah. yes he does. Forgive me if I sound like a noob, I'm still learning. (hope my team advice thread gets approved soon)
Smogon recommended a life orb on Deoxys, and for a while I was using it, but I needed hte life orb on my Infernape, plus I hear there's a rules clause in some matches that disallows two pokemon holding the same item. (though I only have one life orb anyway). so I put an expert belt on Deoxys instead. not as strong as expert belt, but since he SEs most everything he gets almost as much benefit from it.

 

[sims796]

Not many people plays with item clause.

 

[Ársa]

I've actually been wondering, why not use Fire Punch on D-E?

Deoxys-E@Life Orb
Adamant
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Fire Punch
Superpower/Brick Break
Zen Headbutt
Rock Slide/Pursuit

Bronzong:

Fire Punch does 50.00% - 58.88% vs Standard Sassy Bronzong. (High 2HKO)

Blissey:

Superpower does 76.75% - 90.20% vs 252HP/252Def Bold Blissey. (2HKO)
Brick Break does 48.18% - 56.72% vs 252HP/252Def Bold Blissey. (Medium 2HKO)

Celebi:

Fire Punch does 35.15% - 41.34% vs 252HP/220Def Bold Celebi. (3HKO)
Pursuit does 38.61% - 45.30% vs 252HP/220Def Bold Celebi. (Switch) (3HKO)

Gengar:

Pursuit does 118.70% - 139.31% vs Standard Gengar. (OHKO)

Cresselia:

Pursuit does 2/5 of jack all vs Resttalk Cresselia. (1,000,000,000,000,000KO) >_< [/jks]

OHKO's Machamp, Heracross, Breloom with Zen Headbutt. OHKO's Tyranitar, 2HKO's Blissey, 2HKO's Resttalk Lax (Possible OHKO with Stealth Rock). I think you get the idea.

~T_S

 

[ABYAY]

Question T_S; what does it do vs. Dragons with Ice Punch (if used), and what does it do to Skarmory/Forry with Fire Punch?

It looks very interesting, and I may actually try it sometime.

 

[Aquilae]

And the reason you are using a physical Deoxys is? It wouldn't get past most physical walls due to its low attack and it would have to sacrifice EVs in Attack and two moveslots to KO common physical walls.

Special Deoxys can use Superpower to effectively get rid of most special walls, netting a 2HKO as well, and it can deal more damage on Celebi (~60% with Ice Beam), Cresselia (~30% with Shadow Ball), and around the same damage with HP Fire on Bronzong. (42% - 49% with max SpA, but without +Speed Deoxys wouldn't outrun as much as it could)

 

[moments.]

Can I get the set for a Mixed Sweeper Sharpedo?
Anyone have any suggestions on changes? Currently he looks like this straight from Smogon;
Sharpedo @ Life Orb
Nature : Hasty
Ability : Rough Skin
EV's : 76 Atk / 180 SpA / 252 Spe
Earthquake
Crunch
Surf
Ice Beam

It is an awesome set but I want to know if there is any way to make him stronger or another set which works better for coverage etc.

 

[mintyfresh*]

hey guys,

i was thinking of making a lead support infernape. Tell me what you guys think of this set.

Infernape (male)
Naive Nature
252 HP, 212 Speed, 44 Spec Attk
Substitute
stealth Rock
will o wisp
Focus Blast/ Fire Blast *which one?

 

[BILLYBOB]

Help with my team....

Hello guys i need one more pokemon to complete my team i was wondering if you guys can help me pick the right one.Here is my team now:
Heatran
Bastidon
Torterra
Empolean
Salamence
?

So plz tell me what my 6th pokemon should be, ice, electric, dark, psychic or specific names anything would help..Thanks:)

 

[Romo_Owens]

Hey could somebody please suggest a moveset for a Calm Mind Cresselia?
I was thinking a 252 HP/52 DEF/204 SP. DEF spread, calm nature but I don't know what to do with the moves. Due to it's stats, Cresselia is one of the best walls in the game but I can't decide which moves to use.
I was thinking:

-Ice Beam/Psychic: I Don't know which one STAB or type coverage
-Moonlight
-Calm Mind
-Thunder Wave/Light Screen/Safeguard/Energy Ball
I can't decide on the last spot either I go with Thunder Wave, a status condition move, a support move like reflect light screen or safeguard, or energy ball/grass knot as another direct attack. What do you guys think? Because I'm not sure

 

[Matt-O]

First of all, this belongs in S&M. Secondly, what are they all doing? Is Torterra your Physical wall? Is Salamence Special, Physical or Mixed? What you need isn't based on types, it's based on what jobs are unfilled.

 

[BILLYBOB]

Heatran is my pokemon against leaf type, empolean is for fire and rock,Salamance is my defence and counter against dragon types.And Bastidon is my physical wall.

And sorry for posting it here.Im new!

 

[Matt-O]

Okay, then post it in Strategies and Movesets will be more than happy to help you. Be ready to get your team torn apart though, that's what the tend to do.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Hey could somebody please suggest a moveset for a Calm Mind Cresselia?
I was thinking a 252 HP/52 DEF/204 SP. DEF spread, calm nature but I don't know what to do with the moves. Due to it's stats, Cresselia is one of the best walls in the game but I can't decide which moves to use.
I was thinking:

-Ice Beam/Psychic: I Don't know which one STAB or type coverage
-Moonlight
-Calm Mind
-Thunder Wave/Light Screen/Safeguard/Energy Ball
I can't decide on the last spot either I go with Thunder Wave, a status condition move, a support move like reflect light screen or safeguard, or energy ball/grass knot as another direct attack. What do you guys think? Because I'm not sure

Is outclassed by Jirachi as a calm mind sweeper =p. But W/E.

Cresselia@leftovers
96 HP / 252 Sp,A / 160 Speed
Timid Nature
- Calm mind
- Moonlight
- Psychic
- Charge Beam / Ice beam / Hidden Power Fighting

Hits 270 Speed, allowing Cresselia to outspeed Adamant Heracross and KO it with Psychic after a Calm Mind.

Hp Fight is for T-Tar and Weavile, which may probably the best choice tbh.




@T_S, for Physical Deoxys i use: - Fire Punch / Super Power / Ice Punch / Zen Headbutt. @Choice Band, but still blegh.Special outclasses it.

Pursuit isnt good on it in OU, only in ubers where it can revenge kill Deoxys Attack with it. As everything else take 2% from it lol.

 

[airconditioning]

Don't worry about your team. Anything can beat the Elite Four.