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Ice Punch >> Ice Shard, for a main reason. Yache Berry Garchomp has become the standard, far superior to ScarfChomp. Ice Punch OHKO's through Yache Berry, and Weavile outspeeds Garchomp commonly, making it a good revenge killer to it.

~T_S
 
Unless of course, it's a ScarfChomp, which is growing in popularity suddenly (I fought 6 on the Official Server just this night) I dunno, it may be my biased opinion, but I feel Weavile isn't a good sweeper, and makes a decent revenge killer.
 
lucaslucario said:
weavile finishes off because of his speed his attacks arent good
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What? Weavile has 120 base attack and 125 base speed. That's not good for you? He can even suprise kill Medicham and Gallade with Shadow Claw. We are talking about probably the best Dark-type pokemon, excluding Darkai, who is Uber.
 
Team

This is my team so far.

Heracross
Megahorn
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Pursuit
Nature: Adamant
EV: 252 atk/sp, 4 hp
Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Guts

Heracross starts as the starter of my team.

Tyranitar
Crunch
Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Stone Edge
Nature: Jolly
EV: 252 atk/sp, 4 hp
Item: Focus Sash

Focus Sash will allow it a chance to set up a dragon dance or possibly act as a revenge killer.

Garchomp
Outrage
Earthquake
Swords Dance
Nature: Jolly
EV: 252 atk/sp, 4 hp
Item: Yache Berry

Typical Garchomp set up. Hopefully Tyranitar will come out before Garchomp for the added bonus of it's ability to activate.

I can't decide on the remaining 3 pokemon. What I would like for them is to be able to survive sandstorm wether it be an immunity or leftovers to be equipped. Also I was looking for them to be 2 defensive pokemon and 1 offensive with one of those being able to set up toxic spikes, stealth rock, or spikes.

Can anyone help with pokemon suggestions? I'll figure out the moveset and EV spread on my own.
 
crystalvelox said:
This is my team so far.

Heracross
Megahorn
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Pursuit
Nature: Adamant
EV: 252 atk/sp, 4 hp
Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Guts

Heracross starts as the starter of my team.

Tyranitar
Crunch
Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Stone Edge
Nature: Jolly
EV: 252 atk/sp, 4 hp
Item: Focus Sash

Focus Sash will allow it a chance to set up a dragon dance or possibly act as a revenge killer.

Garchomp
Outrage
Earthquake
Swords Dance
Nature: Jolly
EV: 252 atk/sp, 4 hp
Item: Yache Berry

Typical Garchomp set up. Hopefully Tyranitar will come out before Garchomp for the added bonus of it's ability to activate.

I can't decide on the remaining 3 pokemon. What I would like for them is to be able to survive sandstorm wether it be an immunity or leftovers to be equipped. Also I was looking for them to be 2 defensive pokemon and 1 offensive with one of those being able to set up toxic spikes, stealth rock, or spikes.

Can anyone help with pokemon suggestions? I'll figure out the moveset and EV spread on my own.
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Forretress can be used a physical wall that can set up any of the three spikes you mentioned

Forretress@Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Gyro Ball
-Rapid Spin
-Stealth Rock/Spikes/Toxic Spikes
-Rest/Explosion/Earthquake

And as said, Blissey is the special wall in the standard metagame

Blissey@Leftovers
Calm Nature
EVs: 252 Def, 216 Sp Def, 42 HP or Sp Atk
-Softboiled
-Toxic/Thunderwave
-Aromatherapy/Heal Bell/Ice Beam
-Seismic Toss

Ice Beam is just so Gengar doesn't laugh at your attempts to wall him.

lucaslucario said:
when i used him he totally sucked
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Personal experience does not count when talking about a commonly used pokemon, for instance we have no idea whether you were using the standard, or some variant of that which you claim sucks. Yes some movesets are better than others, some are more situational, doesn't mean a pokemon sucks.

Every pokemon has a purpose, even Luvdisc, who's attempts at even being used gets laughed at til the opponent can no longer continue

crystalvelox said:
Does the Skarm-Bliss work anymore?
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Unfortunately not, way too many sweepers care not about that combo (Infernape is the main one), Gliscor and Hippowdon are among the most common physical walls now, and or course Blissey retains her title as THE special wall
 
Blissey I'm a little hesitant about using since sandstorm really cuts into it surviving. What are some of the other special walls?
 
The only ones I can think of that aren't effected by the Sand, don't really work as walls since they lack instant recovery moves

Registeel, Empoleon, Bronzong are the ones I'm talking about

Besides using a whole team based on one weather condition doesn't really work nowadays, Blissey is fine in the Sand anyway since her Leftovers negate the Sandstorm damage and she has Softboiled to heal herself with
 
I wasn't actually trying for a particular team based on weather condition anyway it just sort of turned out that way. I first started out with using Garchomp found Tyranitar was better than Hippowdon (IMO). Thought a scarf heracross would make a good choice as a starter. Then I started thinking about defensive pokemon that I could switch heracross with and garchomp if I ran into a Focus band weavile with an EV spread of 252 atk/sp. Anyway I thought that blissey sort of reliead on the leftovers a bit because it recovers like 40hp every turn. So physical walls are skarmory, gliscor, bronzong. Any idea for an offensive pokemon as a final slot. Since my team is mostly physical orientated special would be the likely choice than.
 
Since my team is mostly physical orientated special would be the likely choice than.
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Specs luke is highly effective
vance gave this set above here it is
Lucario @ Choice Specs
Modest
252 SpA/252 Spe/6 HP
Aura Sphere/Focus Blast
Vacuum Wave
Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball
Dragon Pulse/HP Ice

2HKO's standard Bliss with Focus Blast, which is awesome. Bold Blissey (252 HP/252 Def/6 SpD) gets 2HKO'd by Aura Sphere. It's a matter of accuracy vs. power. Focus Blast is Base 180, whereas Aura Sphere is Base 135.
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now my turn any1 know a good pokemon that goes with these 2 for the battle tower
suicune,breloom
special sweeper preffered but anyother will do if effective
 
I used Focus Blast on Gengar, it's accuracy is horrid...Aura Sphere never misses...
 
JesseRocket said:
Anyone? :) Thank you guys <3
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First, try and get 31 in HP or one defensive stat. The chance of getting 31 IVs in two stats (not necessarily the stats you need!) is 1/1024, so I won't ask you that.
Second, even thought Dustox has a nice attacking movepool, it is a defensive pokemon. So:
@Leftovers
252 EV HP/84 Def/90 SpA/84 SpD
Calm/Modest/Bold nature
~Bug Buzz
~Sludge Bomb/Shadow Ball/Energy Ball/Psychic (the only pokemon that are weak to Posion and not Bug are Jumpluff, Breloom, Tropius and Sky Forme Shaymin, and Posion is a horrid attacking type, so it's not neccesery)
~Roost
~Toxic/Light Screen
 
Froslass said:
First, try and get 31 in HP or one defensive stat. The chance of getting 31 IVs in two stats (not necessarily the stats you need!) is 1/1024, so I won't ask you that.
Second, even thought Dustox has a nice attacking movepool, it is a defensive pokemon. So:
@Leftovers
252 EV HP/84 Def/90 SpA/84 SpD
Calm/Modest/Bold nature
~Bug Buzz
~Sludge Bomb/Shadow Ball/Energy Ball/Psychic (the only pokemon that are weak to Posion and not Bug are Jumpluff, Breloom, Tropius and Sky Forme Shaymin, and Posion is a horrid attacking type, so it's not neccesery)
~Roost
~Toxic/Light Screen
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Thank you so much! :D I really needed to know all this, so I am very grateful! <3
Rep points for helping me! :)
 
can some1 please tell me a decent special sweeper which is not gengar for the battle tower
 
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