Respect the Bivalve pokemon : - Uber RMT [Stall]

[Dark Azelf]

Dark Azelf really needs to stop trying to build stall teams =/ lol

Team Overview.

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Team In Depth
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Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 HP/6 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Fire Punch

Lead and set up sr apparently lol (Why not use SR, since its broken >=]?). Also my initial switch into physical stuff like Tyranitar, Bulk Up Dialga, Rayquaza. Fire Punch for rapid spinner forry. Earthquake for STAB and Dragon Claw for coverage and for the Dragons.
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Giratina @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP/252 Def/16 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse
- Roar
- Sleep Talk
- Rest

Absorbs status for me and Phazes. Dragon Pulse >> Claw because it breaks groudons subs. Also is my Rapid Spin blocker ^__^.
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Heracross(M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 HP/6 Atk/252 SDef
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Megahorn
- Knock Off
- Toxic

Eat support cross lol ! Ohai there Darkrai and Deoxys etc. Brick Break is for screens and STAB. Megahorn is for STAB and its best STAB imo. Hera's new toy from plat, knock off allows it to screw things up and Toxic to beat up and wear down things.
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Latias (F) @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 112 HP/192 Spd/204 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Grass Knot
- Dragon Pulse

My wish support and Kyogre and what not counter. Grass Knot hits Kyogre AND groudon. Protect scouts / for Pursuit and activates Wish. This ev spread outspeeds Jolly Garchomp. Dragon Pulse for STAB and it chosen >> Draco Meteor because the -2 s.att would be counter productive on a defensive poke.


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Cloyster (M) @ Nevermeltice / Leftovers
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP/240 Atk/16 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk) / Brave Nature (+Att, - Spd)
- Ice Shard
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes / Ice Beam
- Toxic Spikes

THE BIVALVE POKEMON. A weird choice and a weird set, but it does what i want it to do. Sets up assorted spikes and Spins. With Nevermeltice (rofl) Ice Shard pretty much OHKO's Rayquaza and strips aff ~50% from 176 hp standard Latias, and pretty much OHKO's Ray with SR up just with Lefties, so meh. This ev spread still has 400 defense so it can still take a physical beating. Shame its sp.def is like 2 >_<, it is actually pretty hard to switch this guy in, oh well at least it does more than forry =/ Ice Beam could be used >> spikes for a solid STAB and because i never seem to have the time to set up both lots of spikes, no im not using surf due to the sun lol.

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Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 6 HP/252 Def/252 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Softboiled
- Psych Up

Obligatory fat anti special attacker pink thing. Psych Up goes lololol at Calm Minders, whilst bolt beam hits pretty much everything that i want it to (Lati@s and Kyogre etc). Softboiled is for healing and is obligatory.


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[U][SIZE=3][B]Team check[/B][/SIZE][/U]

 
This is an evaluation of the team. Do they all come together?

    * Have a special wall? Yes (Latias and Blissey)
    * Have a physical wall? Yes (Giratina, Cloyster and Groudon)
    * Have resistances to Dragon, Ice, Electric, Psychic, Dark, Ghost, Bug, Fighting, Ground, Water, Fire, Steel and Rock? The team resists them all.
    * Have a Spinner? Yes (Cloyster)
    * Have a phazer? Yes, (Giratina)
    * Have a weather changer? Yes (Groudon)
    * Have a Spiker/Stealth Rocker? Yes, this team has them all.
    * Have a sleep talker? Giratina

[U][B][SIZE=3]Threat List[/SIZE][/B][/U]


 
[U][B] Ubers[/B][/U]

 
Mewtwo : - Blissey, Latias and [COLOR=black]Heracross[/COLOR] eats those without a fire move. 
    
Mew : - You cant counter this since its very versatile but [COLOR=black]Heracross[/COLOR] would be my best counter.

Wobbuffet : - If you can't switch out, you can't counter it. Therefore, Wobbuffet is impossible to counter. 

Lugia :  - Blissey sets up on it, so does Cloyster in addition to Heracross Toxicing it and Knocking off its item.
    
Ho-oh : - Giratina can stall it out and so can latios to an extent. Blissey lols at special sets.
    
Latios and Latias : - [COLOR=black]Heracross to some extent[/COLOR], Blissey and in addition Cloyster can strip ~50% from them with Ice Shard.
 
Kyogre : - Latias and Blissey.
    
Groudon : - Latias can Grass Knot it and Giratina can Roar away any boosts.
    
Rayquaza : - Groudon would be my initial switch in and Cloyster can drill it with ice shard. Also SR prevents this from coming in too much.
   
Deoxys-A : - [COLOR=black]Hera can take hits and own it[/COLOR] and Giratina beats all physical. Ice Shard from cloyster also owns it.
   
Deoxys-D : - [COLOR=black]Heracross[/COLOR].
   
Palkia : - Latios (is faster and can revenge) and Blissey combined.
     
Dialga : - Physical : - Groudon, Specs : - Blissey and Mixed is beaten with prediction aka blissey takes draco and then Latias/Groudon can come in freely
    
Giratina : - Those without rest lose to toxic, calm mind is handled by Blissey. Those with Dragon Claw and rest talk are spiking fodder for cloyster. Latios drills it with Dragon Pulse too. 
    
Darkrai : - Giratina takes sleep and then [COLOR=black]Heracross[/COLOR] is fine with it.
   
Manaphy : - Blissey, Latios combined.


 [U][B]Non ubers[/B][/U]

 
Metagross : - Groudon, Giratina.

Garchomp : - No one really uses it, but groudon would be my initial switch into it and Latias can revenge all non scarf and Cloyster can waste it with Ice Shard.
   
Blissey : - Groudon.
    
Heatran : - Latios, Blissey, Giratina wastes pp to.
    
Weavile : - [COLOR=black]Heracross[/COLOR] and i doubt it can get pasts cloyster, groudon or giratina lol
    
Tyranitar : - Groudon.
   
Skarmory : - Cloyster spins its stuff away and sets own spikes in addition to Blissey T-Bolting it.
  
Forretress : - Well Cloyster spins its stuff away and it gets worn down quickly anyways by surf =p. I guess this is a good time for flamethrower on blissey right ? lol 
    
Magnezone : - Nothing fears it bar cloyster who can just switch lol.
    
Ninjask : - Giratina @ Roar. Also SR >> Nubjask.
   
Heracross : - Giratina.
     
All Chlorophyll Pokemon (such as Tangrowth and Exeggutor) : - Cant really get past anything bar cloyster =/ lol
   
Shedinja : - Toxic, Spikes, SR, Pursuit, Knock Off
 
Swift Swimmers : - Get walled by bliss and Latios combined, groudon cancels rain too.

Jirachi : - Special =  Blissey and Giratina can blow it away, Groudon (Non-Grass Knot). Physical = Giratina and Groudon.

Bronzong : - Cloyster fodder and it can get past Giratina either.

Problems : - Lack of perish song, but psych up and T-Spikes should make up for it T__T.

Well thats it, rate away. Please and thanks =3

Just a note : -If you think about copying my teams which has happened recently with people posting one on another forums as their own (you know who you are, you pitiful plagerising noob ) im active on pretty much every major forum so i will find you and "your" rmt on said forum will be closed quicker than you can whistle ^___^ Kthnx.
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Really solid team, even though you're using gimmicks :p

Sadly, a Mixed Mewtwo is pretty troublesome, as it OHKOs Blissey, and hitting Heracross for 55% minimum. Meaning if you switch either of them in, they will be 2HKO'd easily, and since you listed them as you main counters to Mewtwo, the chances of this happening is pretty high. Of course, you'll have to resort to Latias to stop it, since Groudon takes 93% minimum from Grass Knot, or 73% minimum from Ice Beam. Latias takes it reasonably well, since Ice Beam does, at most, 78% to your spread.

So...Focus Punch / Flamethrower / Ice Beam / Shadow Ball Mewtwo HURTS.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Really solid team, even though you're using gimmicks :p

Sadly, a Mixed Mewtwo is pretty troublesome, as it OHKOs Blissey, and hitting Heracross for 55% minimum. Meaning if you switch either of them in, they will be 2HKO'd easily, and since you listed them as you main counters to Mewtwo, the chances of this happening is pretty high. Of course, you'll have to resort to Latias to stop it, since Groudon takes 93% minimum from Grass Knot, or 73% minimum from Ice Beam. Latias takes it reasonably well, since Ice Beam does, at most, 78% to your spread.

So...Focus Punch / Flamethrower / Ice Beam / Shadow Ball Mewtwo HURTS.

Did you factor Soul Dew for the calcs because i got : - 49.85% - 58.66% from LO Ice Beam o.0

Well that does look slightly problematic, but at the same time it cant really come in on anything bar cloyster really.

And if i predict well it cant Focus Punch Bliss or if i attack it. Tbh Brick Break is more scary for this team.

Well what i could do is put SR on Bliss and a really bulky Bold Kyogre >> Groudon so the rain would stop its flamethrowers against Heracross who would be a near 100% counter for it then.




Thoughts ?

 

[wolf]

Very nice team Dark_Azelf!^^ Hmm... Seems a little weak to Ice Beam: Groudon, Giratina, and Latias would hate it... Yeah, I agree with Vance, you are weak to Mewtwo with: Brick Break/ Ice Beam/ Flamethrower/ Shadow Ball. Groudon could be switched with Kyogre since sunny weather doubles the fire power to Hera... Eh, sorry, but I don't see anything else to do... Oh, I noticed that DD Gyara could sweep this team like no other, but with Kyogre in, it can Thunder it away.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Very nice team Dark_Azelf!^^ Hmm... Seems a little weak to Ice Beam: Groudon, Giratina, and Latias would hate it... Yeah, I agree with Vance, you are weak to Mewtwo with: Brick Break/ Ice Beam/ Flamethrower/ Shadow Ball. Groudon could be switched with Kyogre since sunny weather doubles the fire power to Hera... Eh, sorry, but I don't see anything else to do... Oh, I noticed that DD Gyara could sweep this team like no other, but with Kyogre in, it can Thunder it away.

Yeah ill probably put in Kyogre.

But who uses Gyarados in ubers ? Besides i doubt it can even get past Latios or even Groudon (especially in the sun) lol

| Gyarados | Usage | 73 |
| Gyarados | Ability | Intimidate | 100.0 |
| Gyarados | Item | Leftovers | 50.0 |

73 people used it with leftovers being the main item, with that, it aint gonna be sweeping anyone.

In addition a +1 leftovers waterfall struggles to do anything to blissey in the sun so t-bolt time =].


Thanks guys anyway.




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For Kyogre


Kyogre@Leftovers
252 hp / 252 def / 6 sp.def
Bold Nature
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Roar / Thunder
- Toxic / Thunder

either this or rest talk idk, help ?

 

[wolf]

Yeah ill probably put in Kyogre.

But who uses Gyarados in ubers ? Besides i doubt it can even get past Latios or even Groudon (especially in the sun) lol I have seen a few...I saw one once when I battled in Uber, I was wtf!




73 people used it with leftovers being the main item, with that, it aint gonna be sweeping anyone.

In addition a +1 leftovers waterfall struggles to do anything to blissey in the sun so t-bolt time =]. K, I see, that is fine.


Thanks guys anyway.




EDIT : -

For Kyogre


Kyogre@Leftovers
252 hp / 252 def / 6 sp.def
Bold Nature
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Roar / Thunder
- Toxic / Thunder
Toxic HURTS Giratina (if it doesn't have rest talk), Lugia (or you could just zap it!), and other walls. You already have Giratina to have Roar, and that will shallow his movepool ever more.

either this or rest talk idk, help ?

Comments in Bold!^_______^

 

[Opposite Day]

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Cloyster (M) @ Nevermeltice / Leftovers
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP/240 Atk/16 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk) / Brave Nature (+Att, - Spd)
- Ice Shard
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes / Ice Beam
- Toxic Spikes

THE BIVALVE POKEMON. A weird choice and a weird set, but it does what i want it to do. Sets up assorted spikes and Spins. With Nevermeltice (rofl) Ice Shard pretty much OHKO's Rayquaza and strips aff ~50% from 176 hp standard Latias, and pretty much OHKO's Ray with SR up just with Lefties, so meh. This ev spread still has 400 defense so it can still take a physical beating. Shame its sp.def is like 2 >_<, it is actually pretty hard to switch this guy in, oh well at least it does more than forry =/ Ice Beam could be used >> spikes for a solid STAB and because i never seem to have the time to set up both lots of spikes, no im not using surf due to the sun lol.

Just a simple thought, but doesn't the sun make the power of Ice-type moves to be lowered to 50% too?
(I see you are considering Kyogre, so this is probably immaterial for your team)

 

[luke]

No, Sun only doubles the power of Fire-type moves and diminishes the power of Water-type moves.

 

[Opposite Day]

My apologies, I was mistaken. Sorry to have bothered you.

 

[Syaoran]

I'm not sure how Heracross can work here... how well does it take Nasty Plot Dark Pulse from Life Orb Darkrai? I think SD Scizor might work here instead so you have a stat upper of your own in case you're facing other stall.

 

[Archer]

I'm not sure how Heracross can work here... how well does it take Nasty Plot Dark Pulse from Life Orb Darkrai? I think SD Scizor might work here instead so you have a stat upper of your own in case you're facing other stall.

That seems like a decent idea, although I think the general idea was to deal with Deoxys, and Scizor can't really do this as well. (Hera resists Superpower, for example.)

 

[Dark Azelf]

Well scizor takes like 90% from a Nasty Plot LO Focus Blast, even with maxed out sp.def and a careful nature so...eh. Whilst heracross takes both focus blast and dark pulse very well due to its great sp.def and resistances >_<.

Anyway ive discovered that whist Mixtwo is a pain on paper that it cant really get past latias and if it does, groudon finishes it and so does giratina. I could also move ~100 def evs from both giratina's and groudons def and put them in S.Def for more insurance.

I tested Kyogre and it was kinda a liability =/.

 

[Syaoran]

Darkrai isn't easy to handle... it doesn't seem that clear to me that you'd switch Giratina right into it to take the sleep, because after all it IS weak to Dark Pulse so you'll be taking a big risk here if misplayed. If anything, Heracross could be the better sleep talk user, while Scarf + Sleep Talk could be very handy (I supposed it outspeeds o_O).