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Now, I've been thinking of Starmie. What would be a good set? The Spinner? Then I could use Bronzong. I don't know.

I hate lucky, high risk moves. Absolutely hate em. However, I would use it on Forry, simply because it has the defenses to use it. So I'll consider it. I wish I could give Raichu another move other than Focus Blast, because it misses at the worst parts.
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There are a few lovely sets for you.

Starmie@leftovers
172 HP / 120 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED
Timid Nature
Trait : Natural Cure
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Recover
- Rapid Spin

Thats the spinner.


Starmie@leftovers
40 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED
Timid Nature
Trait : Natural Cure
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Recover
- ice Beam

Counter star.


Both the above sets needs 31 Speed ivs so you can outrun gengar with only 216 speed evs <<Dont worry, ill breed you one from my own starmie, if this is a problem, mine has 31 in speed by all chances =)


Starmie@Choice Specs
6 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED
Modest Nature
Trait : Natural Cure
- ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- hydro pump / Surf
- Grass Knot / Psychic.

Modest specs hydro pump is capable of doing like 35% to blissey and snorlax fears it =o

Starmie@Choice Scarf
90 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 168 SPEED
Modest Nature
Trait : Natural Cure
- ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- hydro pump / Surf
- Hidden power Fighting / Grass Knot / Psychic

Revenge kill, smash that Scarf garchomp locked into outrage, lol at that weavile who thinks its faster with HP Fighting. Grass Knot and Psychic are fillers.


Think you could Focus Punch/Substitute/ grass Knot or Encore/Thunderbolt Raichu <<Something along those lines.@Mild Nature ?
 
That would be a great help if you could breed Starmie.

The problem is, I am unable to breed Raichu at the moment. So I am stuck with Timid, with a crappy Hidden Power. At least until I get to Brooklyn for the weekend. Plus, with a fickle Base 100 Speed, wouldn't Hasty be better?

I was thinking about Slowking. How would that fare?

EDIT: Not that I will, but if I WAS to replace Gya, what would be a good Swampert set?

Swampert@Leftovers
Nature:Relaxed
EV:
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
EQ
Roar
 
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sims796 said:
That would be a great help if you could breed Starmie.

The problem is, I am unable to breed Raichu at the moment. So I am stuck with Timid, with a crappy Hidden Power. At least until I get to Brooklyn for the weekend. Plus, with a fickle Base 100 Speed, wouldn't Hasty be better?

I was thinking about Slowking. How would that fare?

EDIT: Not that I will, but if I WAS to replace Gya, what would be a good Swampert set?

Swampert@Leftovers
Nature:Relaxed
EV: 240 HP / 212 DEF / 56 SP.ATT
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
EQ
Roar.
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Filled in the blank evs lol, but yeah, that movesets fine, mixpert ftw ! No honestly it really is win, mine survived a Draco meteor from a specs mence, although it wrecked it, it still survived, which i find amazing, with no sp.def evs and a Relaxed Nature =0


Slowking ?, what does that accomplish.

Also, yeah, Hasty is fine i suppose on Raichu, but theres not really alot between 299 speed with mild and 328 with Hasty/Naive speed thats particularly threatening, however if you wish to outrun base 90 and 95 speed pokemon hasty is viable.


Starmie ill try and get done, quickly, itll give me something to do, besides that damn HAX battle tower lawl. Ill try and get you an Encore/Sub/Thunderbolt/Focus Punch Raichu aswell, either from smogon or ill breed it myself, i need one myself anyways so ill clone it xp setting a sub up and encoring no-damage moves it fun, you can delete Encore for grass knot if you wish but itll be there for if ya want it.. Oh, yeah, i owe you a Vulpix aswell dont i ?



Which set are you interested for for starmie btw, so i know the details and stuff for breeding? What do ya want on raichu , Mild, Hasty, naive, or Rash ?
 
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Rather, instead of Raichu, could you instead breed a Mudkip? I can do Raichu in my spare time (and I want my original ID on Chu), but I have no acess to Mudkip at the time, and I don't have time for Starmie at all. I can do Raichu, since I already have one with flawless speed & great SP.Atk (& Flawless HP :laugh:). This would be a great help.

Swampert should answer my Gya problems. Since it can survive anything Gya has, I can then counter with Roar (& Raichu can take it from there). Unless it Taunts me and it probably won't.

EDIT:Oh, whichever starmie you feel is best. Well, anything except Scarf. I have Sceptile handling Speed. And I was thinking King as a SP.Wall, but not so much now. Yeah, the speed for Chu is important for me, it allows me to hanlde Mence, and lazy Garchomp trainers.
 
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Rather, instead of Raichu, could you instead breed a Mudkip? I can do Raichu in my spare time (and I want my original ID on Chu), but I have no acess to Mudkip at the time, and I don't have time for Starmie at all. I can do Raichu, since I already have one with flawless speed & great SP.Atk (& Flawless HP :laugh:). This would be a great help.

Swampert should answer my Gya problems. Since it can survive anything Gya has, I can then counter with Roar (& Raichu can take it from there). Unless it Taunts me and it probably won't.

EDIT:Oh, whichever starmie you feel is best. Well, anything except Scarf. I have Sceptile handling Speed. And I was thinking King as a SP.Wall, but not so much now. Yeah, the speed for Chu is important for me, it allows me to hanlde Mence, and lazy Garchomp trainers.
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Sure, i have a great swampy, so i can do that no probs. DO J00 LIEK MUDKIPZ ?? <lol


Ill breed you an awesome Timid Starmie, and you can use whichever set you want for it.


In all honesty Gyara kinda counters swampy =X, unless you run HP Electric or Stone Edge......
 
All I need for it is to have Roar. I'll be set then. I'm not scared of "Gya", but if it Dances, at least twice, I'm in trouble. I need something able to switch in & scare it away with a mighty Roar. After that, Raichu can take it out, or Sceptilce will have a chance.

EDIT:YESH, I JOO LEIK MUKIPZ!!1!!!!
 
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All I need for it is to have Roar. I'll be set then. I'm not scared of "Gya", but if it Dances, at least twice, I'm in trouble. I need something able to switch in & scare it away with a mighty Roar. After that, Raichu can take it out, or Sceptilce will have a chance.

EDIT:YESH, I JOO LEIK MUKIPZ!!1!!!!
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Gyarados uses Taunt !!

Swampert cant use Roar after the Taunt =X


Hopefully starmie can handle that though.
 
Well, the system died, but my final choice was Sceptile. I've made up my mind on this.

Sceptile@Life Orb***Geico(Switch your Car Insurance, RIGHT NAOW!)
Nature:Jolly
EV:252 ATK, 252 SPD, 6 SP.DEF/HP/Who Cares?
Leaf Blade
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Swords Dance
Physical Sweeper. Well, I needed a hard hitter, so I thought Lucario. But I wanted a grass type, so I thought Breelom. But I wanted speed, so...Sceptile! Physical, that is. Hits just about all but Skar, Zong, Tangrowth, but those are dealt with by others.


Gyarados@Leftovers***Dragoon
Nature:Adamant
Waterfall/Ice Fang
Stone Edge/EQ
Dragon Dance
Taunt
EV:212 HP/16 ATK/180 DEF/100 SPD
Bulky Sweeper. Standard Tauntdos. Painful when played right, although I may give him a wii bit more ATK. Might try out Icequake.

Swampert@Leftovers***Cypress/Slough/Bayou-which sounds better?
Nature:Relaxed
EV:EV: 240 HP / 212 DEF / 56 SP.ATT
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Earthquake
Roar
Bulky Water. Really, not a point in ATK? How good will it be physically, then? This is great, now I can feel safe using Lefties on Forry over Shed Shell. I can afford to lose Forry, with a bulky water as backup.. Not as my main wall, but as back up.


Raichu@Focus Sash***Sparks
Nature:Timid
T-bolt
Grass Knot
Focus Blast
Nasty Plot
EV:MAX SP.ATK/MAX SPD/6 SP.DEF
Special Sweeper. He abuses Focus Sash for powerful moves. Wish he had a bit more speed, but meh. I really hate Focus Blast, missing every two moves or so, but I have no choice.


Forretress@Leftovers***Comet
Nature:Relaxed
Rest
EQ
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock
EV:MAX HP/88 ATK/164 DEF
Physical Wall. Also my Spinner, & Trap setter. Because he is my prime wall, Explosion is not an option. Stealth Rock over Spikes for I dislike Sashers more. This is a matter of opinion, so.


Grumpig@Leftovers***Lumas
Nature:Calm
Psychic
Calm Mind
Rest
Magic Coat/Shadow Ball
EV:MAX HP/52 SP.ATK/200 SP.DEF
Special Wall. With Rest, & Aromatherapy, it makes it a hell of alot easier for him to wall. If I give him Shadow Ball, can he handle Cressy? Magic Coat is just fun to play. It always is. I got rid of that God awful inaccurate non-chargin Chage Beam.


Vileplume@Black Sludge***Petals
Nature:Calm
Energy Ball
Hidden Power [ICE]
Aromatherapy
Sleep Powder
EV:244 HP/90 SP.ATK/140 SP.DEF/30 DEF
Cleric. My team favorite! He is also a limited mixed wall. I discovered this when I accidentally gave him DEF EV's while training him in SP.DEF. His typing allows him much survivability. Although he has many weaknesses, not all are seen that often. You can kiss my arse, he's in!
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So, how does it look now?

Without a point in attack, how good is it?
 
sims796 said:
So, how does it look now?

Without a point in attack, how good is it?
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Ok, but Wheres your Gyarados counter ?


Seriously, you cant do anything to it... Its gonna taunt the hell out of swampy.


And by removing Gyarados, CB Hera says hi !
 
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Maybe I should give Swampy Stone Edge?

Ah, so I can't lose Gya for Swamp. Maybe I can give Zap Cannon to Forry. This is difficult. I mean, Raichu can handle Gya, but I lose Raichu in the process. Man, this is hard.
 
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Maybe I should give Swampy Stone Edge?

Ah, so I can't lose Gya for Swamp. Maybe I can give Zap Cannon to Forry. This is difficult. I mean, Raichu can handle Gya, but I lose Raichu in the process. Man, this is hard.
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I know, countering stuff this gen and in this metagame is really hard, im often made angry because i miss certain threat, and then when i remember them im like disfndnfdjngfdg XD


Starmie w/Recover/ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Surf
Sceptile / Raichu < CB Raichu ??
Vileplume
Gyarados.
Forry
Grumpig

How bout that ? It covers weaknesses Very well.
 
Damn damn damn damn.

I don't wanna choose between Sceptile & CB Raichu. They both are so great.

Well, if you could breed Staryu Mudkip, it'll be easier to decide.

Ah, if you could name Staryu "Twinkle", Mudkip "Marsh", & Vulpix "Foxy", that'll be nice.

This is difficult because I'm not trying to just make a team, I'm trying to make a team that I can say "This is my signature team. When you think sims796, you'll think this team.". Know what I mean? This is tough, because I don't wanna simply settle on anything.

I might borrow my friend's Emerald just to get t-Punch on Sceptile.
 
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Damn damn damn damn.

I don't wanna choose between Sceptile & CB Raichu. They both are so great.

Well, if you could breed Staryu Mudkip, it'll be easier to decide.

Ah, if you could name Staryu "Twinkle", Mudkip "Marsh", & Vulpix "Foxy", that'll be nice.

This is difficult because I'm not trying to just make a team, I'm trying to make a team that I can say "This is my signature team. When you think sims796, you'll think this team.". Know what I mean? This is tough, because I don't wanna simply settle on anything.

I might borrow my friend's Emerald just to get t-Punch on Sceptile.
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Yeah, i know what you mean, Its kinda hard to use favorites and cover up weaknesses....

Ill nickname the pokes for ya though....
 
sims796 said:
Originally Posted by sims796
Sceptile@Life Orb***Geico(Switch your Car Insurance, RIGHT NAOW!)
Nature:Jolly
EV:252 ATK, 252 SPD, 6 SP.DEF/HP/Who Cares?
Leaf Blade
Thunderpunch
Dragon Claw
Swords Dance
Physical Sweeper. Well, I needed a hard hitter, so I thought Lucario. But I wanted a grass type, so I thought Breelom. But I wanted speed, so...Sceptile! Physical, that is. Hits just about all but Skar, Zong, Tangrowth, but those are dealt with by others. With T-Punch, I can now cause much havok to Gya who will otherwise cause me much greif. If it gets in one Dragon Dance, I


Gyarados@Leftovers***Dragoon
Nature:Adamant
Waterfall/Ice Fang
Stone Edge/EQ
Dragon Dance
Taunt
EV:212 HP/16 ATK/180 DEF/100 SPD
Bulky Sweeper. Standard Tauntdos. Painful when played right, although I may give him a wii bit more ATK. Might try out Icequake.


Raichu@Focus Sash***Sparks
Nature:Timid/Hasty
T-bolt
Grass Knot
Focus Blast/Focus Punch
Nasty Plot
EV:MAX SP.ATK/MAX SPD/6 SP.DEF
Special Sweeper. He abuses Focus Sash for powerful moves. Wish he had a bit more speed, but meh. I really hate Focus Blast, missing every two moves or so, but I have no choice. Currently breeding a Hasty Chu, that has Focus Punch. For surprise lissey hits. With proper prediction, I can 2HKO Bliss.


Forretress@Leftovers***Comet
Nature:Relaxed
Rest
EQ
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock
EV:MAX HP/88 ATK/164 DEF
Physical Wall. Also my Spinner, & Trap setter. Because he is my prime wall, Explosion is not an option. Stealth Rock over Spikes for I dislike Sashers more. This is a matter of opinion, so.


Grumpig@Leftovers***Lumas
Nature:Calm
Psychic
Calm Mind
Rest
Magic Coat/Shadow Ball
EV:MAX HP/52 SP.ATK/200 SP.DEF
Special Wall. With Rest, & Aromatherapy, it makes it a hell of alot easier for him to wall. If I give him Shadow Ball, can he handle Cressy? Magic Coat is just fun to play. It always is. I got rid of that God awful inaccurate non-chargin Chage Beam.


Vileplume@Black Sludge***Petals
Nature:Calm
Energy Ball
Hidden Power [ICE]
Aromatherapy
Sleep Powder
EV:244 HP/90 SP.ATK/140 SP.DEF/30 DEF
Cleric. My team favorite! He is also a limited mixed wall. I discovered this when I accidentally gave him DEF EV's while training him in SP.DEF. His typing allows him much survivability. Although he has many weaknesses, not all are seen that often. You can kiss my arse, he's in!


Any glaring weaknesses, that CAN'T be revenge KOed?
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Well, I've fixed up my weaknesses. Or at least most. Gya is not as scary of a threat anymore with T-Punch. Dragon Dance T-tar can cause some issues, so Sceptile must be kept alive. Chomp can't handle too many Dragon Claws from Scep either. Getting in at least one Swords Dance won't be too hard at all.
 
I'm going to say that ScarfTran with HP ELECTRIC can cause you some issues. Everytime it comes in, it is able to KO something at the least. (Other than Grumpig, but I don't know what it can do in return...)

~T_S
 
Grumpig stops Heatran cold. Dead cold. With a resistance to fire, it can proceed to Calm Mind up, and figt back with Psycic. not very effective, but painful with CM.

On top of that, Scarf makes it easier to take out.
 
Meh, nothing too serious, if it must resort to Explosion. It is the only way to really hurt me. I'll just have to finish him fast, before he does too much damage.
 
To true. Other than that, I cannot really see anything.

The current battle I am in is making me realize how scary good Jirachi is.... (4-1, and now 2-1. Jirachi is paralyzed and tearing through him. ;))

~T_S
 
I frackin hate hax. Thats why I have Magic Coat.
 
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