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RMT OU Smogon, shoddy battle.

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Zurich

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    This is my first rmt for competitive battle. I am doing pretty good with it but i think that i can do better.
    If i can make any changes plz tell me.
    Each of the next movesets are self-explanatory.

    Shaggy.
    *image removed*
    Relaxed/Leftovers 252 HP / 162 Atk / 96 Def
    Toxic spikes
    Gyro Ball
    Rapid Spin
    Explosion


    Sphiro.
    *image removed*
    Adamant/leftovers 120 HP / 252 Atk / 136 Speed
    Dragon Dance
    Dragon claw
    Earthquake
    Fire blast


    Mozilla.
    *smogon.com link removed*
    Timid/Choice Scarf 4 HP / 252 Sp.atk/ 252 Speed
    Thunder Bolt
    Tri attack
    Dark pulse
    Ice beam

    Koga.
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    Modest/lum berry 252 HP / 152 Sp.Atk / 104 Speed
    Nasty Plot
    Air Slash
    Aura sphere
    Roost


    Poseidon.
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    Bold/leftovers 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Sp.Atk
    Wish
    Surf
    Ice beam
    Hidden power electric


    Goku.
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    Adamant/life orb 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
    Close Combat
    Sword Dance
    Extremespeed
    Stone Edge


    Did some changes: September 16
    (this team is not definitive)
     
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    Ewww Tbolt and Eball are a bit redundant
    Be a man, go focus blast, or blissey COMPLETELY walls you.

    Honestly looks like every other team, 100% offensive.

    BulkyGyara lead is not very good, as lots of Gengars are leads and Azelf could give him trouble.

    You are EXTREMELY SR weak. I suggest you run a spinner SOME WHERE.

    2 Flyer's AND a sasher?

    yeah, that won't get you the win tbh.

    This team is pretty standard.
     
    then don't post RMT threads for help

    With prediction monotype flying can win.
    Prediction is the key to any win, but in my upcoming video on YT, it SHOWS that every one can over predict you.
     
    Well the recommend me an other lead for my team,
    Maybe forretress or bronzong can be a good option.
     
    Zong is a common lead, because he's a good bulky starter.

    I tend to lead Hippo "OMG SS TEAM!"
    yeah, it's bulky hard to OHKO gets up rocks etc. You want to set up the late game early, you'd be suprised what happens when you WAIT to set up rocks :D
     
    yeah i have hippo in my team but not as a lead.
    Also roar can be a good choice for him, but deffinitly SR is better.
    So then i replace gyarados with hippowdon.
    Also, togekiss should habe roost over Flamethrower?
     
    Depends

    Fthrow is a nice choice for added coverage, but it isn't necessary for NPKiss to sweep.

    NP kiss NEEDS roost, so that it can set up roost off the damage, and sweep the game. If you have something like wish support or something of the sort, Roost isn't necessary, but Kiss is a bit slowish and fragile to take too many hits. Which is why I liked roost.
     
    Jirachi is the wish and light screen supporter.
    As you said togekiss is a bit fragil and slowish wich is a big problem, but light screen really helps to weaken ice and electric types wich may OHKO it, so roost can be a better option than fthrower to keep him alive.
    But flamethrower is useful for killing metagross, bronzong and such.
    Both are good choices for him.
     
    I don't like Energy Ball on Gengar Focus blast please.
    It's not necessarily a bad set, but I just can't stand BulkyDos, and you're just mixing both bulky and sweeper. just go for standard DD/Waterfall/EQ/Stone Edge and 252/252. Extremespeed is ok but Endure and Salac Berry beats Focus Sash. Otherwise faster sweepers like Garchomp and Salamence take it out too easily. Also use Gyarados wisely because without it Mixape and Garchomp destroy your team.
     
    Okay, the team's looking okay, miles ahead of most peoples first.

    Personally I like Thunder Fang for Gyara switch ins but Gyara will win that fight in the end. Or should. So Ice Fang will be good.

    Never say Togekiss is fragile, a little tip. I love running Kiss with a Bold Nature, it has excellent Sp. Def and Bold gives it enough hits to survive UnStabed Stone Edges at the least. And gives you an oppertunity to Nasty Plot.
    And Aura Sphere hits most Ice types harder than Flamethrower. Recovery moves are liked on anything Bulky enough to pull it off. Which Togekiss is. And even some that arn't.

    Now unless your really really worried about Swampert, than you don't need Energy Ball. HP [ice] works fine. He can also use WoW, there's some better options than Energy Ball.

    You might want to change your mind on Light Screen, it really comes down to Flamethrower vs. EQ. Which one do you want Jirachi to U-Turn on. And it doesn't need any attack ideas, not that set anyways.

    Well that's all the comments I have for now, I'm not sure any of that made sense, I'm suprised I'm still managing to keep my eyes open.

    Edit: Romo_Owens, I believe, on Smogon's server at elast, Garchomp is no more. I need to clarify that though.
     
    Cool team. What's stopping Gyarados from ripping it in two?
     
    My thoughts:
    Electivire >>> Lucario for your team.
    Since you are running Energy Ball to take care of some pesky water threats, Electivire will take Thunderbolts/Punches aimed at your Gyarados and Togekiss as well as absorbing Thunder Waves coming from Blissey that will come out at your Gengar.
    Without Garchomp, Electivire is broken really.
     
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    My thoughts:
    Electivire >>> Lucario for your team.
    Since you are running Energy Ball to take care of some pesky water threats, Electivire will take Thunderbolts/Punches aimed at your Gyarados and Togekiss as well as absorbing Thunder Waves coming from Blissey that will come out at your Gengar.
    Without Garchomp, Electivire is broken really.
    Click to expand...

    About that...yeah...um...>_>

    Anyways, just from experience with NP Togekiss, Roost is necessary. If you don't use it, Togekiss is a terrible choice. It has to be able to heal of damage it takes since it's slow. It's very bulky so it's not like it recovers off 50% and takes 90%. It is an absolute necessity on Togekiss.

    KT is right about the Gyarados weakness. I'd replace Lucario with something like Porygon2. Your team isn't very fast and para support would be a real help, plus is covers your glaring Heatran weakness and of course the Gyarados one as well.

    EDIT: You could replace something other than Lucario, just seems like dead weight honestly.

    And in case I failed to make it clear earlier, Electivire is anything but broken. Garchomp wasn't even a good solution to it unless you wanted your Yache Berry and "uncounterability" gone.
     
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    Thank you for your comments, they are really helpful.
    So, hippowdon will be lead, and i will replace lucario maybe with porygonZ.
    As archer said, i will give gengar modest nature and choice scarf.
     
    Use 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Atk on Hippowdon. I don't know what all the SDef is for >_>

    Also Timid for Gengar or Deoxys-S WILL 6-0 you.
     
    Is that Hippowdon's Smoh-Gone spread? 252 HP/156 Def/96 SpDef/4 Spd is better here. Hippowdon seems a little bit random here, only Jirachi and it resist Sandstorm.

    Ah, this is the reason Hippowdon shouldn't be in the team, LO DD Mence. Everytime you switch in and attack, with SR down, you are losing 47.5% of your health.

    PorygonZ needs to be Timid.

    Wow, 2 Nasty Plot sweepers on one team? REE-DUNN-DANT!

    Jirachi I know nothing about.

    Its a ScarfGar.
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    Wow, 3 special sweepers, one physical one, something that ruins your whole team and a Jirachi. Brilliantly planned. Even the gods wouldn't think of such a good team. REMAKE. NOW.
     
    So do you recommend to change nasty plot and put something else?
    also, choice scarf porygon Z is a good option?
     
    And that's it for this thread folks, closed by request. :D

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