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Running Away

Dizzy said:
I've been kicked out of my house for an Entire week :( and I didn't even do anything bad. Sometimes I run away. Sometimes I try to kill myself :-\
Really Dizzy? Yikes....
I know life is tough, but you have to think of what might happen if you did kill yourself. Suicide equals a one way ticket to.....you-know-where.

Oh, no! Never! I'm just to pleased with my life to run away. Besides, where would I possibly go? There are not a lot of job opportunities for someone with a 9th grade education. I'm stunned though, to see how kids, even as young as 6 years old, can possibly run away from their own family. Of course, if you're not pleased with your life, the thought might burn more brightly in your mind. But there are just so many other ways that you can fix your problems...without having to relate to running away.
 
I don't care if I die though, nor does anyone else. I'll only be born again -_-. My life Freekin sucks though, I swear sometimes I wish I could take it all back.
 
Dizzy said:
I don't care if I die though, nor does anyone else. I'll only be born again -_-. My life Freekin sucks though, I swear sometimes I wish I could take it all back.

how can you be sure that youll be reborn ofcouser its probably your religion or beleif, but how can you be sure?
*remembers what I started in the passion of christ thread, involving religion discussion*
ill just...heh...go on my merry way...heh
 
How Can you be sure that you actually die. Is there really a heaven or ****? A Rebirth? Tartarus and Thanatos? Gaia's Womb? How can you be sure of anything?
 
Dizzy said:
How Can you be sure that you actually die. Is there really a heaven or ****? A Rebirth? Tartarus and Thanatos? Gaia's Womb? How can you be sure of anything?
Dizzy....

Answer me this.

Is suicide a bad thing?
 
It's not, Especially if it's for Faith. Suicide is portrayed as heresy and being bad, but we're all going to die sometime. Right? I'm just so out of it.
 
i ran away alot. One time i ran away for 3 days. the reason i'm home is 'cause the cops found me, chased me for three miles, hopped a fence and takaled me. When i came home, my parents said they didn't know. they said i was spending the week at a friends house. the cops found me stealing out of an open car.
 
yea but i beleive that when we live we chose the way we want to experience life...desitiny is bull shista! and so is religion. in my oppinion how do we even know jesus was really a divine being? i mean he died after all...i know he "sacrificed himself" but howcome there wasnt a book written till about 400 (approx?) years after bc?
and the 10 commendments are a gimmick of the code of hamurabi. jew's are semetic liek assyrians, the founder of the code of hamurabie, which was created several 100s of years before the 10 commendments were created...if you want ill talk more about how its bs...
 
I got kicked out for 8 Days buddy. Three miles is nothing :/ Try running 4 Miles to the next town away from these kids who want to kick your *** for no reason ^_^.
 
if i were in that kind of situation id run my buns off...sheesh...or go psycho with a base ball bat like that dude in that movie...lol
 
I'm getting kicked out of my house again this week o.o... See ya I guess. Maybe I should just die ^_^
 
Why are you getting kicked out? Doesn't your mom live w/ you. If she does, WHY IS SHE KICKING YOU OUT!?
 
I thought you were so happy with your recently engaged girlfriend?

We can get into faith and religion a whole lot, I'm quite knoledgable about faith, psychology, and philosphy. It's frightening how the three are so closely related.

Wing Zero has taken a very... scientific perspective, if you will. This is here because of this, this is the way it is because of that, cause and effect, input and output. Though maybe historically verifyable, certain inconsistencies in faith are inherint, nobody and nothing is perfect. Everything is based off one another, like a giant building. We cant get to the top, where we are now, without things like the hamurabi code. The fact that the ten commandments are claimed to be devine may either:
1) Be false
2) Be true, and coincidental
3) Illustrate historical flaws
Let's take the first example: the claim that the true commandments is divine is 100% false. It is simply a glorification of the hamurabi code, no more, no less. In this case, we can look at the psychology of why ppl would look at the ten commandments and believe it to be true and why something like the hamurabi code wouldn't persist. We can also get into the metaphysics of god; is god simply an idea, something to look up to? Is god an existing entity with a thought process? Does god exist only in our heads? I can talk all day about this, but I'd like to tie this in with Dizzy's suicidal thoughts.

Dizzy, when you answered the question about if suicide is bad or not, you justified suicide with faith. If you believe that committing suicide is good, then I'm not going to try to change your set of beliefs. That's brainwashing. I will, however, share with you my opinions and why I think that way. But to understand, you first need to realize what I think of history: History is simply whichever lable is able to persist for the longest period of time. Think about it... are you a terrorist or a liberator? A philanthropist or thief? It's all based on which perspective you take. This perspective is predetermined by whichever body is in power- since America is the world strongest power with many allies and we call certain people terrorists, the "terrorist" lable is going to persist for the longest period of time, therefore become the most common interpretation of events. Though things can be attempted to be taught two-sidedly, there is really no way to accomplish this to a full extent, backing my reasoning.

The same applies to religion. If you hold the set of beliefs that committing suicide is good, that's fine, that's how you were raised, that's what you believe. I'm not here to say differently. However, there are several things you need to consider: 1) How will your family feel? 2) How will your friends/girlfriend feel? 3) Are you willing to stake your very existence on the fact that you may be reincarnated? 4) Do you really believe you are accelerating the ineviteable by committing suicide?
1) a) If your family truely doesn't care, then I can see why you are thinking suicidal thoughts. However, chances are that you simply percieve them not to care, which is a common teenage psychology problem.
1) b) If you think they really deep down inside care, by killing yourself you are devastating them in more ways than you may imagine. Through childhood, you can try to understand, but you can never fully appreciate what your parents have done for (and to) you. Think about the consequences- do you have any sibblings that look up to you? Do you have a girlfriend that loves you? Do you have friends that like you? Do you have any rm2k games to finish before you commit yourself (*cough*ancientrebirth*cough)?

2) I purty much covered this...
3) You obviously believe in reincarnation. However, there is only one major faith, Hinduism (I think... can't really remember...) that believes in reincarnation and the caste system. Actually, I think it was Budhism, because of Nirvanah. It could be either, or both. I just can't remember..... Anyway, if you are going to stake your very existence on the theory of reincarnation, first think practically: Budhism is just one religion- if you truely believe in all this religon stuff, chances are the biggest religions with the most people is the "true" one. But I say that not in regard to Christianity, but to Judaeism, Christianity, and Islam because they are all based on the same concepts and ideas with just a few separating points. That aside, we can not really answer the questions of the universe (heaven exist?Afterlife?Reincarnatin?God?), so you are taking considerable risk for yourself.

4) There are three things constant in life: Death, Taxes, and homework from my math teacher. Death is (as of now) ineviteable. Do you believe that living is forestalling the ineviteable? Would you rather take the risk of |-|3LL and commit yourself to self-destruction, or would you rather give religion the chance that it deserves and play it safe? You tell me. You're the suicidal one.

If you read this whole thing, you're crazy. But I hope I provoked your thoughts into thinking differently.
 
Dosent hinduism contradict budishim? Becuse budashism you get a final nervanha wihile in the other you are sent to re-do life untill you get it right?

And i've been kicked out of my house for 3 mmonth's before..thank god i had a job.
 
For the sake of avoiding controversy and division, I don't like to see regular topics spiral down into debates like these...people end up hating each other over these sort of things...believe me, I know. I was exiled from pokemon zeo over this sort of thing.

Anyway, to try and keep on the regular topic at hand, I have wanted to run away at times. If I had the means to survive guaranteed to me, I would disappear from the face of the earth, never to be seen by society again. I think a good place to go would be Amish country or some wooded area in the northeast. I hope at least some of you know by now how much I hate today's society...I want to get away from it so very much. I just want to be gone, no one would ever hear from me again.
 
good golly crap almighty I've thought about running away a WHOLE lot when I was little...

I had packed some clothes and food bars and alof of bread and I was gonna run away that very night...but something stopped, and I'm glad I did

oh yeah, genius in france!
 
When I was going to run away, I packed a bunch of clothes, toys, and food into this big beach-suitcase I had. ^_^;; I was 7 at the time, and I planned to run away after dinner. I think I decided not to because the suitcase was heavy, lol. I think I wanted to run away because my friend wasn't coming to visit for another 2 weeks and I thought my mom could do something about it but she wasn't. XD;;
 
I haven't ran away, but one of my friends brothers tried to when he was 5. He couldn't though, as he was too short to reach the keyhole. (Bless him :D) I've never really contemplated it... although my brother has threatened to many a time. He never will though. I know him too well.

~ MCD
 
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