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Shoddy Team- Revised and Remade

Anti-Pop said:
Stone Edge is useless on Gliscor...I don't know why people use it besides "Gyarados switch-ins" which is the saddest excuse to use something I've ever seen in my life. Use whatever the other option was.

As for this quote:

"Starmie does [counter Gyarados and Weezing], but if they have Blissey they keep switching and I'm walled."

Or you could put your thinking cap on and predict the obvious Blissey switch-in and let it have fun with CBtar ;) Always works.

EDIT: BTW you're really CM Missy weak.
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I use Taunt on my Gliscor, SE was there just if it turned out to be useful.

Missey is Blissey right? Isn't Luke and Tar able to counter it, or am I just getting Missey all wrong?
 
King Tyranitar said:
I use Taunt on my Gliscor, SE was there just if it turned out to be useful.

Missey is Blissey right? Isn't Luke and Tar able to counter it, or am I just getting Missey all wrong?
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Missy is Mismagius. >=[ Luke and Tar are slower than Mismagius and are whacked by HP Fighting and after a Calm Mind... =/ Luke isn't a counter to Blissey either. It hates Thunder Wave and gets smashed by Flamethrower upon switching in and might suffer a Burn, making it difficult to OHKO Blissey.
EDIT: D_A beat me to it. >=[
 
Dark_Azelf said:
Missy = mismagius @Calm Mind/HP Fighting/Shadow ball/Sub
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Things like this make me miss Azelf :( It outspeeds Missy, right?

Dancing Salamence 1.1 said:
Missy is Mismagius. >=[ Luke and Tar are slower than Mismagius and are whacked by HP Fighting and after a Calm Mind... =/ Luke isn't a counter to Blissey either. It hates Thunder Wave and gets smashed by Flamethrower upon switching in and might suffer a Burn, making it difficult to OHKO Blissey.
EDIT: D_A beat me to it. >=[
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I never switch Luke into a healthy Blissey :D I switch it in when it's an obvious Softboiled or Seismic Toss.


I haven't gotten to use Gardy yet, no good battles pushed me far enough. Up for a Shoddy Battle Dance Salamence?
 
King Tyranitar said:
Things like this make me miss Azelf :( It outspeeds Missy, right?



I never switch Luke into a healthy Blissey :D I switch it in when it's an obvious Softboiled or Seismic Toss.


I haven't gotten to use Gardy yet, no good battles pushed me far enough. Up for a Shoddy Battle Dance Salamence?
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Azelf can go kill itself eating a Shadow Ball with STAB and it's super effective.
EDIT:Yeah, I'm up for a match.
 
Azelf loses to Missy? You learn something everyday. Anyway, I've just challenged you.
 
CM Mismagius/Missy is really tough to counter. No version of Blissey really...beats it. Tyranitar has to worry about WoW and HP Fighting so meh. Spirirtomb and Snorlax are fairly reliable counters. It's actually a pretty tough set to get around.

And despite Azelf being faster, it can't come in and win really. Azelf can't really OHKO Mismagius and that 105 base special defense, especially when it CMs. Mismagius really hammers it with Shadow Ball on the switch-in or after taking an unboosted Psychic from the elf.
 
Well that just ruins my day. A BL can sweep my team. Fantastic.

Gardevoir is nice and all, but it's basically a Blissey with more kick (inflict status and hit pretty hard) ]

I need something that hits hard specially, perhaps Mixape? I lack an offensive fire type.
 
If it doesn't Sub up first thing you can be sure it has WoW, and ToxicBliss would be able to beat it. Non-Sub Mismagius is very easy to counter given your team.

If you want a more surefire Mismagius counter you could always make Ttar Careful 252 HP/216 SpD for it, and it would get rid of Mismagius easily.
I think the pure power of max att CBtar is more preferable, so it would be easier if you would combine both Starmie and Gardevoir in one slot in the form of Vaporeon.

Surf/HP Electric/Wish, the last slot should be either Roar or Protect, depending on what you would need. I would go with Taunt on Gliscor, namely because it would serve as a PsuedoHazing method and would free a slot for Protect on Vaporeon.

Just go Taunt/EQ/Ice Fang/Roost on Gliscor, it has no business using Stone Edge anyways, Ice Fang hits harder and Gyarados isn't countered by Gliscor.

I don't think CBtar needs 198 Speed to be honest. Adamant 88 is probably the max you would need to run to beat Skarm.

For the last slot you should use Metagross with Bullet Punch, either CB or LO. This would provide support against Mismagius, namely the SubCM variant, and would down SubSeeders which would annoy you terribly otherwise.

I would advise you to go with CB Meteor Mash or LO Ice Punch to get rid of Gliscor opening the path for Luke/Ttar to sweep.
 
That sounds awesome! I always wanted to try Gross but I never made a team that could support it.

So, my team should look like this?

CBTar/Vaporeon/Metagross/Gliscor/Blissey/Lucario

Right?
 
Sweeping Missy without Sub is not a good sweeping Missy anyways ;)

As for the current lineup, it looks okay after skimming it over. Watch out for opposi8ng CBtars and stuff though.
 
King Tyranitar said:
Metagross @ Life Orb
"Wish I were uber..."
Adamant
Clear Body
252 HP, 244 Att, 14 Def
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Those EVs were for surviving CB Dugtrio's Earthquake and after Life Orb damage you still die even though you have those EVs unless it does minimum damage and you can't escape. >=[ You're better off making those EVs pumping Speed or something like outspeeding Impish O Speed EV Gliscor so you won't get damaged by Earthquake before you smash Gliscor with Ice Punch. And, if I'm correct and did the right calculating Bullet Punch does this much to Dugtrio with Life Orb:
Damage: 154 - 182
Damage: 72.99% - 86.26% to Adamant Dugtrio with 0 Defense and HP EVs.
Correct me if I'm wrong in calculating but you won't OHKO while it OHKOs you most likely with CB Earthquake because of the 10% Life Orb recoil.
 
Advice on new EV's? And should I use Ice Punch > Explosion?
 
King Tyranitar said:
Advice on new EV's? And should I use Ice Punch > Explosion?
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Probably 204 EVs in Speed taking those from HP or just take all 12 useful Defense EVs, which should outrun Impish 0 Speed Gliscor. Explosion is to commit suicide right before you die (If you can survive the hit or if you're faster) and do a big hit to your opponent, most likely KOing them. Ice Punch can do huge damage to Gliscor without dying while Explosion does almost 2x the damage Ice Punch does at the price of killing yourself. I'd run Explosion, because 2 Meteor Mashes= 1 Ice Punch so you don't need Ice Punch just for Gliscor because it can Roost before you with that set of EVs if you don't change them, making an Ice Punch as strong as a Meteor Mash on the turn it uses Roost.
 
So, 12 Spe EVs > Gliscor w/ 0 Spe? I don't wanna take away any Att EV's, Bullet Punch absolutely murders most stat uppers/switch ins/Weaviles who think "Lol outsped"
 
King Tyranitar said:
So, 12 Spe EVs > Gliscor w/ 0 Spe? I don't wanna take away any Att EV's, Bullet Punch absolutely murders most stat uppers/switch ins/Weaviles who think "Lol outsped"
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204 EVs in Speed should outspeed that kind of Gliscor. You know, we have HP EVs in the world, have you heard of it? :D Take away from that to not touch Attack and weaken Metagross.
 
I'm really starting to consider Heatran over Metagross. It covers my fire support, and it can use Lucario to it's advantage on taking those fire attacks and Will O Wisps.

If I choose Heatran, which set would be most effective on this team?
 
King Tyranitar said:
I'm really starting to consider Heatran over Metagross. It covers my fire support, and it can use Lucario to it's advantage on taking those fire attacks and Will O Wisps.

If I choose Heatran, which set would be most effective on this team?
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Your team lacks any kind of Special attacking so I would choose Specs:

Heatran@Choice Specs
Modest
40 HP/252 Special Attack/216 Speed
Fire Blast/Flamethrower/Overheat
Dragon Pulse
Earth Power
Explosion

No need for HP Ice since now you OHKO the Dragons with Dragon Pulse. =D I prefer Flamethrower over the other 2 moves since it has more PP and accuracy than the other two and doesn't really care about the loss of power because Choice Specs gives it plenty of power. =D Earth Power for coverage and strength and also gives you something to hit other Specs Heatran with. =D Explosion to hurt Blissey or something if you're about to die.
 
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