Should 'creationism' be taught in school?

[Luck]

uuuhhhh your the type of people that really get on my nerves. Fake religious people, you herd about god, and mabey side with him, but never truly dug any deeper. There is MICRO evolution not MARCO evolution. Also those fossil records have huge gaps, and do you know how charls darwin justified this? He said we haven't discovered enough fossils yet. Well it's been over 200 hundred years and a lot more fossils but the gap is still not closed.

I don't know if I should treat you seriously or not.
There will always be gaps. Your logic goes along the lines of George Bush jumping from childhood to adulthood because there are gaps between a picture taken 50 years ago and a picture taken recently.
But um, I'm being way off topic, so just send me a message if you want to continue.

@luck
The people where discrasing a holy tradition and that's why demons where flocking to them. They contracted disses because there was a demon inside of them.

That sounds like it just supports my point entirely.

 

[NarutoActor]

I don't how that proves your point. It shows that there where special sercom stances, and that all sick people are not possed.

 

[Bianca Paragon]

Oh, it's hilarious watching Churchies try and argue against evolution ♥ protip: learn what a "scientific theory" is, before regurgitating the same old tripe your pedopriest tells you.

 

[ShieldWolf27]

To me, that is what church is for.
I will believe in my lord God until someone can prove him false, which is impossible.
People can try to express and explain things to me and in my opinion it is God who created the Earth, the universe and everything in it. It is impossible to prove to me otherwise and doing so would be a waste of your and my time.

But keep it out of school.

 

[NarutoActor]

I would be fine with that if they kept evolution out of class. If you are going to teach something, show both sides of the story.

 

[ryty1231]

Yes they should respect the other religions if they did show anything.

 

[Mario The World Champion]

I don't know. The only reason creationism is gaining ground is due to the fact that evolution is not 100% fact and that gives creationists ammunition to try to add that view to a school's agenda or replace teaching about evolution, something that's been taught in school for many years.

I personally don't believe anything about creationism, nor do I believe that the Earth is 6000 years old or how old they say it is. How to you explain the Dinosaurs?

 

[Åzurε]

Oh, it's hilarious watching Churchies try and argue against evolution ♥ protip: learn what a "scientific theory" is, before regurgitating the same old tripe your pedopriest tells you.

Do I detect a mentality of superiority? Watch what you say...

I happen to know what a scientific theory is. A hypothesis that has been put through testing and has been found consistent with the resultant data. Though, technically, shouldn't a theory go back and be revised or discarded if there is evidence which points to the theory being incorrect? Among other things, has there been one recorded instance of evolution? Has there been one recorded instance of abiogenesis (which, assuming it's creationism vs. evolution, would be a necessity at some point)? Has there been one fossil that almost incontrovertibly shows the existence of some link, between any two organisms? Assuming you subscribe to the evolutionary plateau theory, do you know the odds of something like this actually happening, or how complex and delicate the life systems of any given organism is? Think about these before you answer me, please...

Hurrah for *high school* biology.

EDIT: at Feign's post below, there are passages in the Bible that warn about humans adding their own concepts to the Biblical concepts, and that there would be what are in essence cults. All I see is someone using an incorrect representation of Christianity to make it seem ridiculous to even consider it as fact.

 

[Feign]

Rofl, how could I have not seen this thread earlier...

Needless to say, creationism is a joke, and should not be taught in school whatsoever... It would be on the same line of me not wanting the teacher to tell the kids to write to Santa...

While we're at it however:



Jesus Camp (a disturbing documentary)

 

[pokejungle]

I don't know. The only reason creationism is gaining ground is due to the fact that evolution is not 100% fact and that gives creationists ammunition to try to add that view to a school's agenda or replace teaching about evolution, something that's been taught in school for many years.

I personally don't believe anything about creationism, nor do I believe that the Earth is 6000 years old or how old they say it is. How to you explain the Dinosaurs?

Haha what about it isn't 100% fact hon?

 

[txteclipse]

They should teach everything or nothing. That's my take.

By the way, science is still very young. People who call anything "scientific fact" in this day and age will be laughed at down the road. In the grand scheme of what can be known, we haven't so much as removed a single molecule from the surface. The future will prove us barbarians.

 

[Anti-Hero]

I think that religion and all its beliefs and ideals should stay at church, or private religious institutions. That way, they have a choice to hear what they want or not. In the US, teaching it would be against the first amendment, so it probably won't happen on a large scale. This topic is really highly debated all over the place.

 

[CGCoder]

EVERYONE should believe whatever they they should not teach creationism OR evolution in school. they should get to choose their own path and not be forced into one thing or another. life is whatever you decide it to be, not what someone else decideds for you. being christian myself, i think its a wonderful thing but we should not change the minds of others

 

[Åzurε]

EVERYONE should believe whatever they they should not teach creationism OR evolution in school. they should get to choose their own path and not be forced into one thing or another. life is whatever you decide it to be, not what someone else decideds for you. being christian myself, i think its a wonderful thing but we should not change the minds of others

Matthew 28:19- Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

Evangelism is important. Don't force faith upon others, but do try to show them what Christianity really is, instead of the stereotypes so many people are trying to pin on it's followers, and the mistakes made by the many people who twist it themselves.

On with the show.

 

[pokejungle]

Gotta admit, I'm a little surprised that there are actually advocates for *not* teaching evolution in school.

It's not like... religious... it's just scientific. And we have science class. For scientific teachings.

 

[ryty1231]

I was once a Christian but it faded away and just like that I became an atheist.

 

[dr4g0n12]

No, it should not. Religion is slowly being rendered obsolete by science. Religion was here to explain the unexplainable, and now it serves no purpose since most is explainable, and things that are not will be quickly unraveled. Take spacecraft for an example. Religious people believed heaven was in the sky. They went up.And guess what? It was not there.

I think that religion and all its beliefs and ideals should stay at church, or private religious institutions. That way, they have a choice to hear what they want or not. In the US, teaching it would be against the first amendment, so it probably won't happen on a large scale. This topic is really highly debated all over the place.

And yes, it is unconstitutional. Even though most of the united states is religious.

 

[Luck]

Do I detect a mentality of superiority? Watch what you say...

I happen to know what a scientific theory is. A hypothesis that has been put through testing and has been found consistent with the resultant data. Though, technically, shouldn't a theory go back and be revised or discarded if there is evidence which points to the theory being incorrect?Scientists still find out new things and try to disprove evolution. It wouldn't be science if they didn't try to disprove something. Among other things, has there been one recorded instance of evolution?Right here I thinkHas there been one recorded instance of abiogenesis (which, assuming it's creationism vs. evolution, would be a necessity at some point)?They deal with different things. Abiogenesis deals with the origin of life, and evolution deals with the biodiversity. Has there been one fossil that almost incontrovertibly shows the existence of some link, between any two organisms?Every fossil is considered transitional, but you can look at the various fossils in human evolution. Assuming you subscribe to the evolutionary plateau theory, do you know the odds of something like this actually happening, or how complex and delicate the life systems of any given organism isYeah. About 99% of species on Earth are extinct. We were just lucky and got good genes. Think about these before you answer me, please...

My response in bold, obviously, because I'm too much of an evolution nazi to ignore :(

 

[CGCoder]

school should never go into beliefs. if some of us still believe in santa, heck just let them believe i wouldnt want someone to go up to me and say "HAHAHA YOU BELIEVE THERES A GOD YOU ARE RETARDED! HEY EVERYONE! *name* BELIEVES IN GOD HAHAHA" just as much as a atheist wouldnt want someone to go up to them and say "WHAT YOU DONT BELIEVE IN GOD? GOD IS REAL SO SHUT THE * UP! HE EXISTS"

 

[john c0nnor]

I personally don't believe anything about creationism, nor do I believe that the Earth is 6000 years old or how old they say it is. How to you explain the Dinosaurs?

See, this is a very common miscunseption, in the beginning of genises it states that the earth was "void of form" not that there was nothing. this leads me to belive that the dinosaurs and the earth were around long before biblical times and the reason the earth was void of form was becus of a catachlismeck event probably the war between god and satan, and that the "comet" that wiped out the dinosaurs was infact satan him self falling to earth.

So if this is true then god created the dinosaurs long before(as in millons of billons of years) genises 1:1.

If evolution if fact then please explain how in the big bang: nothing just an endless completely empty void can randomly become all this.

@ jolene: your post seirously offened me and I'm shure tons of other members.

@ feign: see above. and BTW the so called "christions" in that video were wack jobs and some of the stuff they were doing was down right demonic IMHO.