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Aloha everyone.
I just hatched a Male Adamant Dratini. I'm completely new to the EV training thing, so I'll need a bit of help. I want to EV it in attack and speed, so I bought the power bracer and power anklet. Question is, when do you START EV training? Do you start right at level 1 or can you start when it evolves into Dragonite? And I get the idea that the power items add 4 EV's in that stat plus the EV's that the wild Pokemon gives. Example: Dratini holds power anklet, he defeats 1 Magikarp. He gets 5 Speed EV's, 1 from the Magikarp and 4 from the power anklet. And another thing is, how do you know when the stat has maxed out?
I just hatched a Male Adamant Dratini. I'm completely new to the EV training thing, so I'll need a bit of help. I want to EV it in attack and speed, so I bought the power bracer and power anklet. Question is, when do you START EV training? Do you start right at level 1 or can you start when it evolves into Dragonite? And I get the idea that the power items add 4 EV's in that stat plus the EV's that the wild Pokemon gives. Example: Dratini holds power anklet, he defeats 1 Magikarp. He gets 5 Speed EV's, 1 from the Magikarp and 4 from the power anklet. And another thing is, how do you know when the stat has maxed out?
for EV training its best to begin right away. the power items just double the amount of EV's you get when you defeat a pokemon. so in 5th gen if you were to have the dratini hold the power anklet and you defeat a basculin, which gives 2 EV's, the power anklet doubles that so you would get 4 EV's in the speed stat. in order t know when the stat is maxed out you reallly just have to keep track of the EV's yourself. so write the number down or if you have a very good memory you could keep track of it all in your head.
furthermore there can be a maximum of 252 EV's in one stat. so if you were to EV train your future dragonite in attack and speed the Ev spread should look like this:
252 Attack 252 Speed 4 HP
hope this helps =) if you have any more questions just post them because theres a lot more experienced trainers who can also help.
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i found this nice set on smogon so here it is =)
cradily @ leftovers
careful
suction cups/storm drain
252 HP 252 Sp. Def 4 Def
rock slide
curse
rest
sleep talk
the goal with this set is to curse up your defense and attack and rest to heal of any damage it takes. then from there you sleep talk which randomly uses any move it knows so it will either use curse to boost its stats or rock slide to attack or rest if your unlucky.
as fas as the ability goes, i feel both have their advantages. suction cups laughs at phazers who would roar or whirlwind cradily out, so that it looses its stat boosts. however storm drain will raise its special attack when hit with a water type move, so that ability gets rid of one of cradily's weaknesses. personally i would go with suction cups so that you don't get roared out.
hope this helps =)
furthermore there can be a maximum of 252 EV's in one stat. so if you were to EV train your future dragonite in attack and speed the Ev spread should look like this:
252 Attack 252 Speed 4 HP
hope this helps =) if you have any more questions just post them because theres a lot more experienced trainers who can also help.
@ greg0915
i found this nice set on smogon so here it is =)
cradily @ leftovers
careful
suction cups/storm drain
252 HP 252 Sp. Def 4 Def
rock slide
curse
rest
sleep talk
the goal with this set is to curse up your defense and attack and rest to heal of any damage it takes. then from there you sleep talk which randomly uses any move it knows so it will either use curse to boost its stats or rock slide to attack or rest if your unlucky.
as fas as the ability goes, i feel both have their advantages. suction cups laughs at phazers who would roar or whirlwind cradily out, so that it looses its stat boosts. however storm drain will raise its special attack when hit with a water type move, so that ability gets rid of one of cradily's weaknesses. personally i would go with suction cups so that you don't get roared out.
hope this helps =)
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Thanks, dreyko.
I'm EV training in Heart Gold btw. But it says that the power items add 4 ev's to that stat regardless of the Pokemon fought. Like you can still get speed ev's while fighting a Tangela, which gives 1 defense ev. I'm a little confused but I might be able to get it down.
I'm EV training in Heart Gold btw. But it says that the power items add 4 ev's to that stat regardless of the Pokemon fought. Like you can still get speed ev's while fighting a Tangela, which gives 1 defense ev. I'm a little confused but I might be able to get it down.
ok so if thats the case then if you were to beat a tangela you would still get that defense EV which would take away from the max amount of EV's that you could put into attack and speed. so, your better of battling strictly the pokemon that give EV's in attack and speed so that you don't end up wasting EV's in stats that you don't want to EV train in.
well then only problem with ingrain is that you cant switch out if you really need to, but if you don't plan on switching out then it would work. ive actually seen various sets with ingrain put to good use.
but yeah if you use ingrain the you wont be roared out and then your free to set up and storm drain grants an immunity to water type moves. however, you do have to use a turn to use ingrain so if you want to try and set up right away use the suction cups ability, because you will be able to set up immediately.
but yeah if you use ingrain the you wont be roared out and then your free to set up and storm drain grants an immunity to water type moves. however, you do have to use a turn to use ingrain so if you want to try and set up right away use the suction cups ability, because you will be able to set up immediately.
What about:
Ability: Storm Drain
Item: Leftovers
Move 1: Ingrain
Move 2: Recover
Move 3: Curse
Move 4: Rock Slide/Stone Edge
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Def
Or this set:
Ability: Storm Drain
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
Move 1: Rock Polish
Move 2: Swords Dance
Move 3: Recover
Move 4: Rock Slide/ Stone Edge
Would either of these sets be viable in today's metagame for a Cradily?
Ability: Storm Drain
Item: Leftovers
Move 1: Ingrain
Move 2: Recover
Move 3: Curse
Move 4: Rock Slide/Stone Edge
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Def
Or this set:
Ability: Storm Drain
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
Move 1: Rock Polish
Move 2: Swords Dance
Move 3: Recover
Move 4: Rock Slide/ Stone Edge
Would either of these sets be viable in today's metagame for a Cradily?
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Im pretty new to this but.... How does my team look?
Haxorus @ Choice Band
Ability: Mold Breaker
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252Atk/ 252Spe/ 4HP
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Brick Break
- Dual Chop
Chandelure @ Wise Glasses
Ability: Flash Fire
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252SpAtk/ 252Spe/ 4HP
- Fire Blast
- Overheat
- Energy Ball
- Shadow Ball
Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 40HP/ 252Atk/ 216Spe
- Pursuit
- Ice Shard
- Low Kick
- Night Slash
Gengar @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4HP/ 252SpAtk / 252Spe
- Substitute
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Hypnosis
Empoleon @ Life Orb
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Modest
EVs: 12HP/ 4Def/ 252SpAtk/ 240Spe
- Agility
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
Magnezone @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Magnet Pull
Nature: Naive
EVs: 4Atk/ 252SpAtk/ 252Spe
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power Fire
- Flash Cannon
- Explosion
Haxorus @ Choice Band
Ability: Mold Breaker
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252Atk/ 252Spe/ 4HP
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Brick Break
- Dual Chop
Chandelure @ Wise Glasses
Ability: Flash Fire
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252SpAtk/ 252Spe/ 4HP
- Fire Blast
- Overheat
- Energy Ball
- Shadow Ball
Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 40HP/ 252Atk/ 216Spe
- Pursuit
- Ice Shard
- Low Kick
- Night Slash
Gengar @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4HP/ 252SpAtk / 252Spe
- Substitute
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Hypnosis
Empoleon @ Life Orb
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Modest
EVs: 12HP/ 4Def/ 252SpAtk/ 240Spe
- Agility
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
Magnezone @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Magnet Pull
Nature: Naive
EVs: 4Atk/ 252SpAtk/ 252Spe
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power Fire
- Flash Cannon
- Explosion
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Anyone help me out with a revenge killing Mienshao set? I've got a 252Atk/252Spe/4Def with HJKick/StoneEdge/FakeOut/HP Ice, Adamant. Need help with item, possible moveset changes?
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If you already fully EV'd it and would rather not train, this would work but U-Turn should go over Stone Edge and you should get a hasty nature preferably.
for meinshao, if you want it to be a revenge killler the you can go ahead and and give either a choice scarf or a life orb. choice scarf ensures that you out speed who you are trying to kill but a life orb will add some extra power, which could make a difference.
also meinshao has a good ability: regenerator, which allows it to recover around 33% of its maximum HP when it switches out. so, in order to take advantage of this you could utilize the move U-turn, which also works for scouting. and with the regenerator ability you can heal off some of the life orb recoil, if you choose to use this item.
personally i prefer the move drain punch over HJK because of accuracy and the bonus of recovering some HP, but this is really just a personal preference so, you can choose HJ if you really want to pack a punch, i mean kick lol =)
anyways i hope this helps =)
also meinshao has a good ability: regenerator, which allows it to recover around 33% of its maximum HP when it switches out. so, in order to take advantage of this you could utilize the move U-turn, which also works for scouting. and with the regenerator ability you can heal off some of the life orb recoil, if you choose to use this item.
personally i prefer the move drain punch over HJK because of accuracy and the bonus of recovering some HP, but this is really just a personal preference so, you can choose HJ if you really want to pack a punch, i mean kick lol =)
anyways i hope this helps =)
So has anyone got any ideas?
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To the best of my understanding, they fill two rather different roles. Escavalier is ideal for a Trick Room team, and also makes a pretty good bulky attacker even without TR, as long as you have a fire absorbing Pokemon to swap out to if necessary, since it's only problem is a blazing fire weakness. It's movepool is rather lacking, but Bug Gem boosted Megahorn is so deadly that it doesn't usually matter, except against Jellicent. I gave mine:
Escavalier @ Bug Gem
Swarm
Brave - 252 Atk, 252 Def, 4 Sp. Def
Protect
Megahorn
Iron Head
(debatable)
I gave it swords dance in that slot but never have had the opportunity to use it. Mine was a TR sweeper so it's nature is speed down, and it has 0 speed IVs.
Accelgor is the total opposite, frail and speedy as anything. It can be used as a special sweeper, or as a support Pokemon. So it all depends on which suits your team better.
Changes are in bold =) other than that, looks pretty good!!
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What would be a good moveset for a Gen V Torterra?
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I'm needing a Physical Sweeper for a gen 5 OU team
i currently have a Volcarona, Hydreigon, Hitomontop, Ferrothorn
My volcarona if a bulky special sweeper with 252 Ev's in HP and Defence with Morning Sun, Quiver Dance, Flamethrower/Fiery Dance, Bug Buzz
Standard Special sweeper hydreigon set
Standard bulky stall Ferrothorn set
but my hitmontop is technician with fake out, mach punch, bullet punch and rapid spin
So i need a physical sweeper (probably not a dragon as i already have one in my team)
Also does my hitmontop have a viable moveset?
i currently have a Volcarona, Hydreigon, Hitomontop, Ferrothorn
My volcarona if a bulky special sweeper with 252 Ev's in HP and Defence with Morning Sun, Quiver Dance, Flamethrower/Fiery Dance, Bug Buzz
Standard Special sweeper hydreigon set
Standard bulky stall Ferrothorn set
but my hitmontop is technician with fake out, mach punch, bullet punch and rapid spin
So i need a physical sweeper (probably not a dragon as i already have one in my team)
Also does my hitmontop have a viable moveset?
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Hitmontop's set is viable. Volcarona should have Fiery Dance. It's all around better than Flamethrower.
Maybe try Conkeldurr, it's not a sweeper as such but it can sweep teams. ;-; I just contradicted myself, I know. It can tear teams apart soooo.
Terrakion is an excellent Physical sweeper.
4 Hp / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Stone Edge / Close Combat / X-Scissor / Quick Attack @Choice Scarf/Band Jolly/Adamant
That's a pretty fierce set, it can sweep entire teams. :3
Well it depends what you're wanting it for. There's a defensive lead
Torterra @Leftovers
Ev's: 252 Hp / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature [+Def; -SpA]
Ability: Overgrow
- Stealth Rock
- Leech Seed
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge/Wood Hammer
Orr there's the offensive set
Torterra @Leftovers/Yache Berry
Ev's: 4 Hp / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature [+Atk; -SpA]
Ability: Overgrow
- Rock Polish
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Wood Hammer
From experience I'll say that the first set is the best.
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Musharna moveset
Musharna @Leftovers
-Hypnosis
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Barrier
A friend of mine told me that this is destined to fail because im trying to do too much, but, after 1 calm mind its special defense is 475 and after 1 barrier its physical defense is 590. Just after 2 turns its defenses are immense and after 2 more they'd be all but unbreakable. The Inly downside is a lack of recovery move other then rest but I don't think it would do all that bad would it?
Musharna @Leftovers
-Hypnosis
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Barrier
A friend of mine told me that this is destined to fail because im trying to do too much, but, after 1 calm mind its special defense is 475 and after 1 barrier its physical defense is 590. Just after 2 turns its defenses are immense and after 2 more they'd be all but unbreakable. The Inly downside is a lack of recovery move other then rest but I don't think it would do all that bad would it?
can i have some feedback on my starmie set please?
stamie @ choice scarf
modest
4 HP 252 Sp. Attack 252 Speed
ice beam
thunderbolt
surf/ hydro pump
grass knot/ psychic
so, i plan to use this starmie on my rain team. i know it is, in some ways, outclassed by rotom- w, but i wanted to try something different. since i used a modest nature, i gave it a choice scarf to help it outspeed the opponent. however im still unsure about the item to give it. LO seems to also be effective too. also, im kinda lost on the last move slot so i need some help with that.
thanks ahead of time =)
stamie @ choice scarf
modest
4 HP 252 Sp. Attack 252 Speed
ice beam
thunderbolt
surf/ hydro pump
grass knot/ psychic
so, i plan to use this starmie on my rain team. i know it is, in some ways, outclassed by rotom- w, but i wanted to try something different. since i used a modest nature, i gave it a choice scarf to help it outspeed the opponent. however im still unsure about the item to give it. LO seems to also be effective too. also, im kinda lost on the last move slot so i need some help with that.
thanks ahead of time =)
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