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Smogon wont allow my balanced Mewtwo in OU

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babaGAReeb

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    So i make a thread asking for smogon to unban my mewtwo

    https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/can-this-mewtwo-be-unbanned.3516144/

    i really wished to use mewtwo my favourtie poke in the tier of OU which is the best of the best tier.

    i weakened it with toxic orb and no EV's but they just lock the thread without discussion and ban deucer me.

    this is not fair, all i wish is the use my precious mewtwo in OU
     
    Mewtwo is an Uber for several reasons:
    -wide move pool that lets it hit a myriad of opponents for super effective damage
    -insane Special Attack that makes it tough to wall
    -Psystrike as a stronger alternative to Psyshock, making it even harder for special walls to stop its rampage
    -2 Mega Evolutions, which could have bad consequences if you mispredict; if you're expecting Mega Mewtwo Y, you may end up getting squashed by Mega Mewtwo X instead. Charizard also has the same gimmick, but it's more manageable.
     
    PlatinumDude said:
    Mewtwo is an Uber for several reasons:
    -wide move pool that lets it hit a myriad of opponents for super effective damage
    -insane Special Attack that makes it tough to wall
    -Psystrike as a stronger alternative to Psyshock, making it even harder for special walls to stop its rampage
    -2 Mega Evolutions, which could have bad consequences if you mispredict; if you're expecting Mega Mewtwo Y, you may end up getting squashed by Mega Mewtwo X instead. Charizard also has the same gimmick, but it's more manageable.
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    yes yes i know

    that is why i proposed a balanced mewtwo

    weaken it by making it adamant, having no EV's, give it toxic orb and weak attacks
     
    babaGAReeb said:
    yes yes i know

    that is why i proposed a balanced mewtwo

    weaken it by making it adamant, having no EV's, give it toxic orb and weak attacks
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    This is not how balancing stuff out works. Even if Mewtwo was allowed back in OU for whatever reason, this will only be due to metagame changes that don't really favor Mewtwo in Ubers. After that, Mewtwo will be re-tested in OU and if it's still too strong for OU, back to Ubers it goes; this is most prominent when a new generation starts.

    If you want to use Mewtwo that badly, play in the Uber tier.
     
    PlatinumDude said:
    This is not how balancing stuff out works. Even if Mewtwo was allowed back in OU for whatever reason, this will only be due to metagame changes that don't really favor Mewtwo in Ubers. After that, Mewtwo will be re-tested in OU and if it's still too strong for OU, back to Ubers it goes; this is most prominent when a new generation starts.

    If you want to use Mewtwo that badly, play in the Uber tier.
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    but i has tested the toxic orb mewtwo... it is balanced and about strong as a alakazam

    i wish 2 use mewtwo in OU the best of the best tier
     
    Ultraviolence said:
    it still won't be unbanned because you yourself have tested a specific moveset
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    but i will only use this moveset mewtwo and not any other i promise

    toxic mewtwo is balanced
     
    babaGAReeb said:
    but i has tested the toxic orb mewtwo... it is balanced and about strong as a alakazam

    i wish 2 use mewtwo in OU the best of the best tier
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    It's impossible to do such a complex unbanning by not letting certain EVs and nature. You can't check before the battle, and people will find a way around the rule. Mewtwo still has the bulk and defenses (because you aren't EV training that anyway.

    If Smogon allowed that, then everybody would want something similar and the metagame would be screwed up big time. It's like a teacher letting one kid eat chocolate during class, and then the rest wants to as well.
     
    Lol wut

    I think u b trollin gooby

    But if you're not, you're best off just forgetting smogon and going into free battles on battle spot provided you have the actual games. You can use toxic orb adamant mewtwo, burn orb timid groudon with frustration, Yveltal holding a sticky barb with razor wind, whatever you want buddy
     
    BadPokemon said:
    It's impossible to do such a complex unbanning by not letting certain EVs and nature. You can't check before the battle, and people will find a way around the rule. Mewtwo still has the bulk and defenses (because you aren't EV training that anyway.

    If Smogon allowed that, then everybody would want something similar and the metagame would be screwed up big time. It's like a teacher letting one kid eat chocolate during class, and then the rest wants to as well.
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    smogon must give everyone chocolate then, they are lazy. i need my toxic orb mewtwo

    srinator said:
    what the .....

    free water gun kyogre pls!!
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    i think it would still be too OP cause of its rain and high Sp attack

    we must use flame thrower kyogre, that is balanced


    Polar Spectrum said:
    Lol wut

    I think u b trollin gooby

    But if you're not, you're best off just forgetting smogon and going into free battles on battle spot provided you have the actual games. You can use toxic orb adamant mewtwo, burn orb timid groudon with frustration, Yveltal holding a sticky barb with razor wind, whatever you want buddy
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    friend i am no troll.
    i am genuine, true, and honest

    yes i could do all that you say but you see what i want to do is, use my favorite pok'e mewtwo in OU the best of the best tier and battle spot is not best of the best tier

    i dont even own a 3DS anyway

    yes... think of the excitement of using burn orb timid groudon and iron ball deoxys-s in OU.

    even thinking about it is an amazing feeling isnt it?


    and by the way its spidi gonzlis not gooby
     
    xD
    My favorite part of this is how any time you say "OU" you follow it with "best of the best tier" like some flipping Nigerian prince scammer

    If everyone on swagon used your sets in OU best of the best tier I would play on swagon every day of my life
     
    Polar Spectrum said:
    xD
    My favorite part of this is how any time you say "OU" you follow it with "best of the best tier" like some flipping Nigerian prince scammer

    If everyone on swagon used your sets in OU best of the best tier I would play on swagon every day of my life
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    yes i am black, how you know?

    the OU is the best of the best. it always has been the best and to use my favorite poke mewtwo in the best arena of the bestest has always been my dream.

    i am trying to petition the "balanced uber clause" in which weakened and balanced ubers like black sludge lugia, hidden power fire kyogre, assault vest deoxys-d etc can be freed and used in the best of the best tier OU
     
    You might as well play Ubers. That way you don't even have to criple your Pokemon and you can use its potential to the fullest. If you like, you can even use OU Pokemon in Ubers, too.

    It's funny though, how people still try to create petitions in hope to change Smogons banning rules. If there is at least one set of a Pokemon, that's broken, every set of this Pokemon gets banned and that will never change.
     
    And u say ur no troll, sigh are you even reading what ur saying :/
     
    babaGAReeb said:
    smogon must give everyone chocolate then, they are lazy. i need my toxic orb mewtwo



    i think it would still be too OP cause of its rain and high Sp attack

    we must use flame thrower kyogre, that is balanced




    friend i am no troll.
    i am genuine, true, and honest

    yes i could do all that you say but you see what i want to do is, use my favorite pok'e mewtwo in OU the best of the best tier and battle spot is not best of the best tier

    i dont even own a 3DS anyway

    yes... think of the excitement of using burn orb timid groudon and iron ball deoxys-s in OU.

    even thinking about it is an amazing feeling isnt it?


    and by the way its spidi gonzlis not gooby
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    Smogon isn't being lazy... you are being ignorant. NOBODY would use ho fire Kyogre and flame orb timid Groudon. It isn't balanced. An Adamand toxic orb Mewtwo is still insanely powerful. Smogon is to balance the metagame, not ruin it with OP Ubers. Just play Ubers if you want to use Mewtwo sooo bad. What's your second favorite pokemon? My favorite is Staraptor, but that doesn't mean I'll be bringing it to an Ubers match because it would be wrecked. And I don't want to us it in NU by giving it a flame orb because then no one will use it and it defeats the pokemons purpose. The tiering system is designed so that we can use our favorite pokemon, competetive pokemon, and teams to their best potential while not being overpowered or underpowered. Example:

    Tyrantrum is in RU because his power, wide moveset, and bulk is too OP for NU. However, his bad defensive typing and lack of priority leaves him vulnerable in higher tiers. So, if you want to use Tyrantrum, it is best to build a team around him in RU. This system only disallows you use a pokemon in tiers below it. You can use him in UU or above, but you might not preform so well with him. See my point?
     
    Man PC is so much more baitable than Smogon. Let's not do this. Like, ever.
     
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