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Spankings, ooohhhh

^^NICK^^ v.3.0 said:
Okay, that's false. No child never does any wrong, it's impossible. Everybody makes mistakes, and nobody is perfect.
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Sorry, I did mean to imply that anyone is perfect. I should probably reword what I wrote. How about, "If you can raise them 'properly' to begin with then hopefully you'll never have to result to that." I know everybody does wrong. But I meant wrong enough to deserve a spanking (although in my opinion noone deserves one). Time out? Sure! Violence? No.
 
I for one dont see anything wrong with this. If you dont and allwasy treat your kids good they will be spoiled. Sure you could scold them with words, but after a while that will tend to not be as effective as it use to. You have to do that, kids need to know if you do something wrong your going to have to pay for it. You need to set them up for the real world. Now i'm not saying do it for every little thing. Just for the bigger things that they do wrong. Just remember you never want a spoiled kid. Just dont ever go overboard and gett really bad with it, as a kid I was hit with unbelivable stuff (Poles, Bats, glass, etc) and that stuff really scars you for life, emotional and physhicallly. I know I have some scares on my body that I not to proud of, but then again I guess it was sort of needed for me. As I child I was one spoiled little prick, I never got introuble that much untill my dad(thank god he is gone now) finally stop taking it. At first it was just with belts, but later it got a lot harder. Still I think now, looking back on it I desereved it but with a belt not with some of the stuff I had. So like I said it's ok as long as you only do it for things that you know the kid knows is wrong, you cant be hitting them for every little thing, that will teach them to be abbisive later on in life and thats the last thing anyone wants for a kids especially if it's a boy. So ya go ahead and do it but just dont go overboard.
 
I don't think time outs help. When I see children getting time out, I really want to laugh. Oh, how I want to just... URGH!

Like, two years ago, I saw some little brat in Wal-Mart. SHe was definately spoiled, and she was wearing a pink princess dress. She wanted some gift wrap (don't ask...) and the adult with her (not her mom) wouldn't buy it. She threw a fit, and throw her pink coat on the ground and screamed, and hit her gaurdian several times. My mom, sister, and I just looked at her.

That's a child that needs a serious spanking.
 
...I used to get soooooooo ticked when my mom wouldn't let me buy the things
I wanted, but now, I can set limits for myself...
blue, did you dad seriously do that to you.....?
 
Missingno Baby said:
...I used to get soooooooo ticked when my mom wouldn't let me buy the things
I wanted, but now, I can set limits for myself...
blue, did you dad seriously do that to you.....?
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Ya he did, not everyone has a perfect suger coted life...I found that out WAY to early on in life...It's hard but I got use to it...weather thats a good thing I really have no idea but like I said spanking are what kids need to be kept in line. But really I wouldent wish what I went through on my worst enemys kids[/QUOTE]
 
I would never spank my kids. My parents threatened to spank me once in my life, and the thought of it terrified me beyond belief.

Some of you argue that any other form of reinforcement besides spanking doesn't work, but it's only because the parents give in. If they would be effective about reinforcing their punishments, then they would work, and the world would be a better place.

Children learn from their elders, especially their parents. No one has the right to hit another person, child or not. I stand by the belief that a child can be taught through positive reinforcement, and by parents setting the example for their children. It goes much deeper than what punishments they use. If parents use behaviors that they tell their children not to do, then what does that tell the children. That's another reason their punishments do not work. An example of this would be, if a parent smokes, and tells their kid it's bad to smoke, the kid is much more likely to pick up a cigarette and try it, because the parent does it anyway.

In conclusion, spanking is not the way to tell a child right from wrong. Kids are a lot more intelligent than we give them credit for. Parents just need to follow through with their punishments, like taking away television, or giving them time outs, no matter how much the kid whines about it. That's the only problem with non-spanking discipline. It would work if they stuck to it.
 
Children are usually only spoiled when they get every single possession they want without any argument from their parents...that's not a natural attribute of children, but one given to them by parents who are either irresponsible or too benevolent for their own good. Normal, unspoiled children, however, are more likely to listen to reason or respond positively to discipline via taking away priviledges and things of that nature.
 
Ya and how many new parents give the kid everything they want so they will shut up?
 
No. its child abuse.
According to israeli law (lol i looked XD), if a parent hurts a child in any way on purpose, the parent must be in jail for 3 years lol
 
blue said:
Ya and how many new parents give the kid everything they want so they will shut up?
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Then it isn't a fault of the child, is it? It's a learned behavior from parents, which they may be doing intentionally or not. Either way, the child does not deserve to be hit.

I've also noticed that a lot of the people who agree with spanking have been hit during their childhood as well. It all goes back to the examples parents set for their kids. If your parents had not hit you, I bet your opinion would probably be a lot different.

And please note that I have not used names. I don't want to single anyone out or make them feel badly for their opinions. So please don't take it as such.
 
Yeah...... And some parents are mental....it doesnt happen often but what if the parent is schitzophrenic and cant tell what they are doing? yes they should be locked away but....who knows....
 
Well, it depends. I would never, ever hurt my kids, but sometimes whenever they won't obey you, then you have to spank them. Not hard, but enough to get the point across that you're serious. Trust me - If you only yell at your kids, or do something that doesn't really get their attention, and make them feel like they're not being punished, then that will get old very quick.

My cousin does that with her children. Whenever they are doing something wrong, she's like, 'No honey, don't do that!', and you know what? The child does the exact opposite. Her 3 year old daughter is honestly a terror to be around. She won't listen to you, she talks back, and all of that stuff, and it's because she hasn't been disciplined.
My mother has spanked my brother and I before, and I'm actually glad that she did. It taught us who was boss, and I don't disrespect her at all. She did a good job teaching us manners and everything, and she didn't go overboard with it. She never abused us, she only spanked us whenever we deserved it, and it wasn't so bad. Sure, I didn't like it, but I'm still alive, and I love my mother. She's the nicest and most caring mom that anyone could have.

I have some more stories to back this up too, if anyone wants to read them, lol. =P
 
Well, I don't think I'll spank my kids unless they did something truely awful and deserving of it. I was spanked as a child... with a wooden spoon. Those hurt... a lot. But it did teach me right from wrong I suppose... I mean, after being hit with that a lot I learned what not to do in fear of being hit again. Once my mom spanked me and the spoon broke... that memory will be with me forever.

As for being to lenient and giving in when giving a time out or something... I don't think I'll have an issue with that. My parents would always give in to me and even more to my sister. But I'm a bossy big sister and I never give in to my sister. It bothers me so much when my parents give her whatever she wants. They'll say they won't buy her anything... and then eventually they'll give in and get her whatever she wants. I hate it! They never gave in to me... plus I knew when to quit asking and just listen to my parents. If I tell my sister I won't do something for her... I won't do it... no matter what.
 
I also woundn't spank my child unless they really deserved it, but no time outs. I will do punishments, but time outs are the dumbest thing, OMG.
 
Oh, I know, and I really don't think that you should send your child to his or her room. I mean, when you're angry at them, then they really don't want to be around you anyway, and so their room is kind of like an escape for them.

I like what my aunt, who is a nurse, did one time whenever her son got into a lot of trouble once. He snuck out one night with his friends, and when she woke up and found out, she locked his window, (Where he had climbed out) and then left the front door unlocked, but she set a metal chair up against the door. She stayed up all night worrying about him, but finally, at about 5:00 in the morning, when he opened the front door to get in, the chair crashed onto the tile floor, and made a loud noise. XD So, he was caught, and my aunt made him stay all day with her at the hospital where she works, helping out with all of the patients. And since he was gone all night and didn't sleep, he was tired, but she didn't let him take a nap, lol. She made him walk around EVERYWHERE with her the next day. It's funny; he never snuck out again!
 
Funny story. It's funny how some people never learn, like a friend of mine. She knows her parents are really strict, yet she got suspended twice this year. I feel bad for her, because most of the time she's miserable living with her parents. She gets beatings, too.
 
And thats why i moved out of my parents house when i was 11. Still you cant just let them do evetything they want. You do have to set limits,.
 
I agree with Nick, Blue and Kayleigh. Spanking should only be when the parent has already yelled and warned the child very very many times. If a parent continues just warning the child, the kid will eventually think that real punishment doesn't exist. I'm also thankful my mum spanked me a lot of times (not saying I liked it) but it taught me to be mature and not be so dimwitted.

Pssh, spanking only makes matters worse, my ****. It only gets bad when you start abusing the child. Not if you do it eventually. =/

*dies*
 
It's not right to hit your kid every time they talk back at you, do something wrong.....
But if you do it occaisonally, they might learn, if you overdo it, they'll hide...psh, children these days....*looks at age* oops, I'm a children!
 
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