Stars & Claws (OU RMT)

[Zaradon]

Hello and welcome to my 2nd RMT thread on this site. This time i wanted to make something....good^^. I think this Pokemons dont need to be changed however moveset & EVs might need a change.
At a glance:

Teh Team:

Teh Bullet puncher (This is not my lead, dunno why i posted it first ^^)
Scizor
Adamant nature ( +Atk -Sp.atk)
Life orb
4HP 252 Atk Spe 252

Swords dance
Bullet punch
Brick break
Bug-bite

Comment:
This steel bug is freaking amazing. He has potential to take out 2-4 Pokemons in 1 game. I use LO so i can set up swords and then use BP ^^. Of course i have Technican on this so BP have (with stab) like 100 power or something like that. Adamant nature is basic. IDK if i'll have to say more for now.

The special sweeper
Starmie
Timid nature ( + Spe - Atk)
Life orb
4 HP 252 Sp.Atk 252 Spe

Thunderbolt
Surf
Ice beam
Recover

Comment:
This star is better than it looks. As it has full EV speed and Timid Nature it outspeeds 95% of my opponent's pokés. LO again and same reason as the pokémon above^.

The revenge killer
Porygon-z
Choice scarf
Timid nature ( + Spe - Atk)
4 HP 252 Sp.Atk 252 Spe

Ice beam
Dark pulse
Thunderbolt
Tri attack

Comment:
This guy is simple, in kill out. I switch im in out almost all times when my opponent is at half-hp. He can take down almost all types with hes 4 "beatdown moves". Choice specs as i do like always switch him out after i kill the target.

The mighty physical sea-dragon
Gyarados
Leftovers
Adamant nature ( + Atk - Sp.Atk)
72 HP 252 Atk 184 Spe

Waterfall
Stone edge
EQ
DD

Comment:
I knew from the begining that i was gonna use this "mighty beast". After a DD he can outspeed and kill alot if not all upcoming opponent's. I do mostsly use EQ and Waterfall but Stone edge can become handy sometimes to. With some EV in HP and leftovers he can stay in pretty long. That's all for this poké.

The alien
Metagross
Life orb
Adamant nature ( + Atk - Sp.Atk)
HP 76 Atk 252 Spe 180

Thunderpunch
Meteor mash
Earthquake
Explosion

Comment: This guy fills pretty much the same thing as Gyara do but i want to "Big bad physical beasts". I know T-punch is really wierd but i have tested for some time at it DOES works out rlly well. The rest is pretty basic Metagross.

The defense of the defenses ( This is my original lead dunno why i posted it last ^^)
Forretress
Leftovers
Impish nature
252 HP 4 Atk 252 Sp.Def

Rapid spin
Stealth rock
Spikes
Payback

Comment:
Wow! What a tank! It doesn't have that high base Sp.Def but with Sassy nature and EV it still get a high Sp.Def. As Sassy gives -Speed i'll always attack last payback is a really usefull move here.


That's it for this time!
CYA.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Porygon-z doesnt get Flamethrower. Dark Pulse >> it since nothing beats the Rotoms, they wall your whole team, also Scarf this to help with your ridiculous DD Gyra weak.

Starmie wants Recover >> Psychic and Thunderbolt >> Thunderwave. Psychic has poor coverage and Thunderwave on Starmie doesnt really help it. Infact id maybe even consider Grass Knot >> T-Bolt too. Swampert is a general pain to this team.

Scizor is a bad lead, lead with forry. You will also definately want Rapid Spin to help Gyarados/your teams frailness not needing to take more damage from spikes. Toxic Spikes are generally bad in this metagame, Spikes are much better so use them >> T-Spikes. Id also advise Stealth Rock >> Explosion or you make it easy for Gyarados, Zapdos and Salamence to come in and lol. All 3 have the potential to sweep you. Payback > Gyro ball for ghosts who like to come in and block spin, also covers Latias well.

Anything with a powerful thunderbolt beats you actually, especially things like Specs Jolteon and LO Zapdos whom eat this whole team alive. Id put in something to take those.

Just some thoughts, ill come back for a better rate later i think.

 

[Zaradon]

Thanks for all help^^. I'll make the changes you told me to. BTW do you think this team can be good in general OU fights?

 

[wolf]

Teh Bullet puncher
Scizor
Adamant nature ( +Atk -Sp.atk)
Life orb
4HP 252 Atk Spe 252

Swords dance
Bullet punch
Superpower
Bug Bite / X-Scissor (if you don't have HG/SS and planning to use this for Wi-Fi)

Comment:

Bug Bite is much better for a STAB, and hits Metagross, Bronzong, Cresselia, etc. This is a bad lead to be honest, so lead with Starmie (if you use Rapid Spin) or Forretress. Scizor is also better late game when everything has weakened a bit.

The special sweeper
Starmie
Timid nature ( + Spe - Atk)
Life orb
4 HP 252 Sp.Atk 252 Spe

Thunderbolt
Surf / Hydro Pump
Ice beam
Thunder wave / Recover / Rapid Spin

Comment:

Thunderbolt > Psychic, it provides more coverage and hits almost everything for neutral when paired up with Ice Beam (yeah the Bolt-Beam combo). With Surf, it isn't resisted by anything iirc. Hydro Pump can be used to OHKO Scizor, Rotom-A, Zapdos, and some other important KOs that Surf misses on (all with Stealth Rock damage). Recover is useful for healing LO recoil, etc, and Rapid Spin is useful as most Rapid Spin blockers fall to Starmie with the right prediction.

Also, this should be in the lead position as it makes a really good anti-lead with Rapid Spin. It resists a lot of the lead's STAB moves, and Rapid Spins away Stealth Rock once they have finished setting it up.

The revenge killer
Porygon-z
Choice Scarf
Timid nature ( + Spe - Atk)
4 HP 252 Sp.Atk 252 Spe

Ice beam
Dark Pulse / Hidden Power Fighting
Thunderbolt
Tri attack

Comment:

Scarfed it so it is a revenge killer. :P Porygon-Z doesn't learn Flamethrower, so Dark Pulse or HP Fighting is good to fit in that slot. Dark Pulse hits Rotom-A, Gengar, etc, while HP Fighting hits Tyranitar and Heatran pretty hard.

The mighty physical sea-dragon
Gyarados
Leftovers
Adamant nature ( + Atk - Sp.Atk)
72 HP 252 Atk 184 Spe

Waterfall
Stone edge
EQ
DD

Comment:

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The alien
Metagross
Life orb / Choice Band
Adamant nature ( + Atk - Sp.Atk)
HP 76 Atk 252 Spe 180

Thunderpunch
Meteor mash
Earthquake
Explosion

Comment:

EVs allow you to outrun Adamant Tyranitar, and the rest is put into HP. Nothing really threatening (or you just shouldn't stay in on) shows up after that speed tier. Otherwise, it's better to use 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Speed. Choice Band offers more instant power that your team might need on the physical spectrum.

The defense of the defenses
Forretress
Leftovers
Impish (+ Def / - SpA) nature ( + Sp.Def - Spe)
252 Hp / 4 Def / 252 Sp. Def

Stealth Rock
Payback / Pain Split (HG/SS move)
Toxic spikes
Earthquake / Rapid Spin

Comment:

Special Defense EVs raise your SpD really high (around 30% or something), where Defense EVs only do around 17% some (not for sure on these, but I do know SpD EVs are better). Stealth Rock is a cool for keeping stuff like Salamence, Gyarados, etc in check while also changing certain KOs. Payback hits Rotom-A, Ghost-types, etc that are plaining to block a Rapid Spin. But, I don't know if it's that useful on a Forretress not running Rapid Spin. Pain Split would probably be better for recovery since you aren't using Rapid Spin. Earthquake makes sure you're not set-up fodder for likes of Lucario, etc.

Comments in bold.

I'll come back to spot threats.

Edit: I'm so slow.

Toxic Spikes are generally bad in this metagame, Spikes are much better so use them >> T-Spikes.

It does hit some of Gyarados' (and maybe Metagross' too) counters though, like Vaporeon, etc. ;D But, outside of that, it is useless.

 

[Zaradon]

Thx for all help Wolf. I've fixed all the stuff you told me to, however Scizor isn't my lead so i dunno why i posted it first. I'll edit that up now. ^^

 

[cutter kirby]

Thx for all help Wolf. I've fixed all the stuff you told me to, however Scizor isn't my lead so i dunno why i posted it first. I'll edit that up now. ^^

on starmie you should know that hyper beam sucks so put in surf.

Like D_A said you have a huge electric weakness so switch one of your physical sweepers to blissey, gliscor or swampert.

too lazy to post movesets...

 

[Dark Azelf]

Hyper Beam = Absolute noob of a move, set up fodder. Surf >> it.

 

[Zaradon]

I am srry guys in was late night and i was tired. I did mean Hydro pump but i was to tired to realize that i was writing Hyper beam. Srry guys my bad ^^

 

[Pokedra]

Brick Break > Superpower on Scizor please, the loss in Atk and Def is not something you want on something that is trying to sweep.

I'd honestly use Surf > Hydro Pump, from my personal experiences Hydro Pump misses way too much.

I'll come back later for a better rate.

 

[Zaradon]

I can do BB> SP but im not sure about surf. Aah crap i'll just go with Surf ^^.

 

[Archer]

Actually, to be perfectly honest, I've had good experiences with Hydro Pump Starmie. I mean, it misses occasionaly, but it hits like a truck. If you choose to lead with it, go Hydro Pump.

I still don't see anything that can handle SpecsJolt...

 

[Zaradon]

I still don't see anything that can handle SpecsJolt...

So what do you suggest? Heatran is the one that comes my mind.

 

[Dark Azelf]

So what do you suggest? Heatran is the one that comes my mind.

Heatran takes like 70% from specs Jolt T-Bolts so it really isnt a good check.

Something with an Electric immunity or resistance works, the former is probably better though since Jolt is one of those pokes that even when its stab is resisted it still hurts like hell. x_x