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^ Frieza is a fair and even match-up against Elsa? Man that 1.1.3 patch really did improve him.

Anyway, time for the usual reddit tier list update:

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Oh, and Sakurai originally considered Geno to be a playable character since Brawl, which means characters who haven't appeared in a long-running game for a long time really do warrant a slot.
 
Patch 1.15 dropped. It actually even came with some balance changes too. Currently known changes: https://smashboards.com/threads/1-1-5-patch-notes.433162/

Some highlights being:
-Shiek's Needles got a legitimate nerf (she also got a few other changes that I'm not sure if they're nerfs or not, Dsmash got buffed tho lol)
-Cloud got a set of slight nerfs
-Corrin's Counter Surge got nerfed (she also got several other slight nerfs)
-Witch Time has more endlag now
-Meta Knight's uair has received changes that likely make his death ladder harder to do
-Mewtwo got the long-awaited weight increase.....and for some reason another run speed buff

Corrin's grab glitch supposedly was fixed too

edit: oh shit they buffed Zard too
 
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Patch 1.15 dropped. It actually even came with some balance changes too. Currently known changes: https://smashboards.com/threads/1-1-5-patch-notes.433162/

Some highlights being:
-Shiek's Needles got a legitimate nerf (she also got a few other changes that I'm not sure if they're nerfs or not, Dsmash got buffed tho lol)
-Cloud got a set of slight nerfs
-Corrin's Counter Surge got nerfed (she also got several other slight nerfs)
-Witch Time has more endlag now
-Meta Knight's uair has received changes that likely make his death ladder harder to do
-Mewtwo got the long-awaited weight increase.....and for some reason another run speed buff

Corrin's grab glitch supposedly was fixed too

And the bottom five (minus possibly Jigglypuff) have gotten good buffs. I chuckled at how this patch came out while ZeRo was revising his personal tier list. Now he has to start everything from scratch again.
 
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