6th Gen Team Flare Discussion | X and Y Fanmade Battle Theme!

[Iceshadow3317]

I can see it being similar to Hunter J's intentions in the Anime. So Team Flair could be Pokemon Hunters.

In one of the trailers one team member said "If we can revive fossil pokemon, we can sell them for money." or something along the lines of that. I think that just may be par of it.

 

[Salt-the-Sloth]

I think that they'll definitely be a rivaling team. Its just that, no way they'd base a team so heavily on one type without implementing another type. As for what type it is, I think it's going to be Ice.

Team Flare vs Team Frost !

I guess Fairy also has a chance, but I REALLY don't see "Team Fairy" being bad guys...like, at all. Maybe there's some sort of police/defense force that's against Team Flare's plans that use Fairy types? That'd be pretty cool, though I would still expect a second team.

 

[Entermaid]

Evil team elemental triad! with specified evil intents.

Fleet (power) vs. Florid (beauty) vs. Flare (wealth)

One per subregion, coastal (water), central (grass), and mountain (fire).


Oh, and the musical themes:

I would like to hear a more swing/big band theme for team flare. That would give an air of swindling, cool, and classy gangsters. Also, your music is great.

For the speculated grass Team Florid. I would think lulling woodwinds would work well for an air of allure. OR, as soft elegant violin music with an air of smugness or conceit.

For the speculated water Team Fleet. I would think orchestral powerhouse symphonies. Think Pirates of the Caribbean.

 

[fenyx4]

Darn; I was hoping for "Team Magna" (to go with the Generation 3 "Magma/Aqua" and the Generation 5 "Plasma" '-a' suffixes) but oh well...

So, basically, "Team Fire", except with Rule of Cool applied to the name? OK...? The main thing that irritates me is that, solely by their name, they seem like Team Magma clones. I know that magma and fire/flares are different things, but as Team Magma was in pursuit of a legendary Pokemon associated with/mistaken as the Fire-type (Groudon), not to mention all the lava/magma moves like Lava Plume and Eruption that are lumped in with the Fire-type rather than the Rock or Ground types, the concept of the 2 teams is essentially the same at face value... Let's hope that the Team Flare Grunts use a plethora of Fire-type Pokemon, at least... It would also be quite amusing if they used Pokemon with "flair" (as for dancing Pokemon, Ludicolo and Spinda immediately came to mind. Ludicolo would definitely be a surprise as that's probably the last thing a Fire-type specialist would use. Maybe Lopunny for its "visual flair", if any.) As a matter of fact, a majority of Elite Four Flint's Diamond/Pearl Pokemon would be nice and could be put to good use here, some of which manifest fire/flair/hotness in different ways despite not being actual Fire-types. (i.e., Steelix burrows through the ground toward's the Earth's core, an area of intense heat; Drifblim is a hot-air balloon; Lopunny can be seen as "hot" by some individuals).

And wow...I just realized in this thread that "flare" was a homophone with "flair", which works rather nicely considering the Team Flare Grunts' poses (not much to go on, but still). XD

I was quite put off when I read that their sole goal was "to make money." It just seemed repetitive of Team Rocket's goal, and it's not as grand as the goals of increasing landmass/terraforming? (Team Magma), increasing ocean volume (Team Aqua), rewriting freaking reality (Team Galactic), or liberating Pokemon (Team Plasma; forgive me if I have their goal wrong as I haven't played the Generation 5 games). But I anticipate that some neat 'hidden agenda' will be unveiled soon enough.

In visual matters: Their logo just looks so freaking cool and awesome and ominous! :3

Spoiler:

As for the outfits, I like how they are quite distinctive from Team Magma's and have "flair" overall (including the Grunts' poses); snazzy black ties and fitting red hair! I love how the Female Team Flare Grunt is actually depicted as hot and ready to kick butt! I just wish that the sunglasses were black instead of orange, because all that orange is hurting my eyes a little. XD I hope we get to see their actual eye colors in some promotional artwork, though (watch the female Grunt's eyes be green...).

I want a really really bad team, maybe wanting to wreck havoc & run the city? Or mutate Pokémon & create "perfect" new species for their own use? Or maybe even spread a disease through Pokémon!
I want a really evil & interesting plan that will make me want to kill more & more grunts, & speaking of grunts they should be a bit smarter with a better variety of pokes, & not a monotype...

It's a dumb concept, but maybe they burn down the habitats of Pokemon so they could sell the land to get the money they apparently are after. The only two things we have are their name and motives so this is all I could come up with.

Maybe that's possible...maybe that's why Xerneas get's angry they burn it's forest down, and Yvetal is angry due to the pollution coming from it, idk.

The above ideas seem really interesting as motives for a potential Pokemon crime syndicate...

Seems legit, but I don't think GF will endorse the idea of human revival, it's just... too grim.

And that might be just what will make them implement that idea! ;D Some people likely would never expect such a scenario from Game Freak, and they'll go and do the unexpected (make Team Flare a secret proponent of grim, disrespectful human revival, with their money-making activities serve as a front and a source of funding/type of revenue stream) to elicit reactions of horror (which I would think is the general reaction when people hear of the heinous activities of Team Rocket and the like)... It would sure be a major step beyond a simple "making money" scheme IMO, that's for sure.

Evil team elemental triad! with specified evil intents.

Fleet (power) vs. Florid (beauty) vs. Flare (wealth)

One per subregion, coastal (water), central (grass), and mountain (fire).


Oh, and the musical themes:

I would like to hear a more swing/big band theme for team flare. That would give an air of swindling, cool, and classy gangsters. Also, your music is great.

For the speculated grass Team Florid. I would think lulling woodwinds would work well for an air of allure. OR, as soft elegant violin music with an air of smugness or conceit.

For the speculated water Team Fleet. I would think orchestral powerhouse symphonies. Think Pirates of the Caribbean.

Those triads seem quite intriguing, although any clashing elemental "Teams" from this point onwards will just make me think of the rivalry/conflict as a Team Magma/Team Aqua "ripoff", unfortunately... I might give a chance to something that uses other elements besides fire/magma vs water, though... An 'Earth vs. Sky' crime syndicate rivalry (missing Team Aero from Emerald FTW) would have been nice for Kalos, considering the land-based Xerneas and the sky-based Yveltal, although the "Earth" team might remind me too much of Team Magma, yet again... >.<

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[Xander Olivieri]

But honestly, what's wrong with that? I feel that there could be somewhat of an expansion upon Team Aqua/Magma's goals and that may be what Team Flare (Flair? idk)'s goal is. The fact that Team Magma (and maybe Galactic?) to this day are the only teams that have not failed to reach their goals, but still ended up defeated by the player anyways. I'd like to see this new evil team go down this road, and hopefully succeed and eventually be brought down as well.

I hope this made sense. ^^:

None of the teams reached their goals. Magma/Aqua wanted to control the Super Ancient Legend to expand their respective area of Land and Sea. They had neither control nor did they expand their respective area. Both quit as soon as they released the legends because it was more than they expected.

Galactic's goal was to completely destroy the world and make a new one. They were stopped before they even really got started. Right at the climax where they would have started destroying the current world to build anew, the fairies destroyed the red chain and the player stopped them. Argumentatively they made it the furthest though this isn't 100% true as Team Rocket's goal was simply world domination and they were pretty damn dominate where they were up until you beat Giovanni as a Gym Leader representative. With how broad their goal was and with little knowledge of what happened outside of the Kanto region as 4 Admins appear 2 years later, only 2 of which were in the previous generation's games. They had operatives all over the world committing crimes. We can't really say how close or how far they were from their goals. All we do know is we cut off the head of the snake from the main body which caused their downfall.

As for how money can be evil, Honestly I see them being plain thugs about it. Money as a main goal is a highly evil and ambitious setting. How willing are they to make a quick buck? How many people are they going to swindle out of their money? There are many options that they can explore from embezzlement to fraud to common acts of thievery and trafficking. Smuggling, something that I think all the teams have done, would be another money making scheme. Even poaching is a high money making idea, and with them stealing fossils from what looked like a natural cave, I wouldn't put it past GF to make these guys some sort of Poachers that sell Pokemon for money. Destroying ecosystems can be a byproduct of Poaching and if the main two have to play a part in the story their goal can be to catch and sell the Pokemon using highly destructive methods to lure them out.

As for more teams, I don't see any more. If we had another I think they would have shown them already. In the words of Gamefreak at E3 "There PROBABLY will be some kind of evil team. (laughs) You can expect to see a team "something.""

Really "some kind of evil team" doesn't really seem like they were putting focus on the bad guys this time. We definitely got our "team something" however.