Team ultimate muscle

[Crimson assassin]

I have played around with this team tweaking things here and there and i'm pretty dang proud of what i came up with now without further adue lets get this started

the lead

Machamp(kid muscle)@leftovers
adamant~no guard
evs: 110 hp/252attack/48def/100speed
thunderpunch
sub
Dynamicpunch
ice punch

this set is my favorite lead that i have ever used in my life(next to zippers the banette) but this guy is a buff mean sub punching machine he does more than enough as a lead and just in general as a sweeper.sub block. dynamicpunch in junction with no gaurd is just deadly100accuracy firing off a move that powerful not to mention recieveing STAB is just perfect sometimes i even dynamicpunch things that resist it because it makes switching a bit safe knowing that there is a 50/50 chance they will hit themselves it also helps. Sub dynamicpunch really helps save this guy because it gives them a chance to kill off annoying explosion leads or from behind a sub he can suvive one which is always important to me when picking out my leads.

honchkrow(Bone killer)
adamant~insomnia
6 hp/252atk/252spd
sucker punch
psycho shift
drill peck
superpower

this is a honckrow set I made that has always worked for me and i hope it will do the same for you. Now when you look at the layout of the Evs nothing special right. But when you get down to the move set is where you notice a slight difference. PSYCHO SHIFT many people dont even know he can get this move it is an egg move and a great one i may add see as honchkrow is typicall the target of many status attacks toxic, thunder wave and burn. well toxic, thunder wave, and burn them back. not to mention she takes everything that machamp can not. Continue to wreak havoc on your opponents team. I take pride in saying i'm really the only person i've ever know or seen run this move.....besides people who have traded me for a copy of her
If anyone ever wants to try one of my custom sets just pm me and i'll get you one of whatever you want to try ASAP

Heatran(MAXman)@choice specs
flash fire~modest
evs:6spdef/252spatk/252speed
eruption/fire blast
earth power
dragon pulse
hp grass 70

standard set except i run specs because i'm good enough to the point where Outspeeding is not a concern as i can accuratly predict and react accordingly but for a newer player scarf is reccomended because if you are not experencied in the art of prediction pulling off a max hp eruption can be difficult without it and that is what this set is all about is putting your opponent in a position where you can end the game with your overpowered fire stab move and don't worry heatran can still grab it's flash fire since rotom runs around and will most likely make an attempt at burning your physical sweepers with flash fire max hp eruption you can ohko a latias. hp grass dismantles the likes of vaporeon and anyground type who thinks they can take it. earthpower destroys heatran. honstly this set rips through everything except a craydilly in in sandstorm and a blissey and these two can't really take a choice specs max hp eruption or at least not two many

politoed(trix Frog)@leftovers
calm~water absorb
252hp/6def/252spdef
hp eletric 70
surf
ice beam
toxic

Special walling set this little guy takes hits like a champ but his main job is having heatrans back by absorbing water attacks and healing him self some people say vappy is better but he is so damn cool and cute plus most people dont know just how bulky he can be.

tauros@choice band
jolly~intimidate
earthquake
stone edge
return
pursuit

I love this pokemon destroys pokes who stay in on him or can kill anything trying to run from it. this guy is a great physical attacker/revenge killer

spiritomb@leftovers
careful~pressure
evs: 200hp/110def/200spdef

will-o-wisp
sucker punch
pain split
pursit

this spiritomb burns and walls anything having no weakness(beside being hit by a fighting move by a scrappy poke) makes him a great addition to any team and he becomes the ultimate mixed wall after it get the will-o-wisp off plus it increases the teams defencive bulk

give me suggestions and rmt. thanks for your time

 

[Dark Azelf]

No Stealth Rock again (>_>) makes Zapdos, Salamence and Gyarados job sweeping you rather easy. No answer to many ou threats. Check the stickied threat list.

Vappy outclasses Politoed, no really it does lol

Speaking of tomb why are you using it considering its sole job is like to beat spinners and you dont have any entry hazards ?_?

There is seriously no synergy here like at all. How do you plan to open up sweeps, what is your strategy ?

 

[Crimson assassin]

Once again I don't need rocks lol and once again I have to show you your counters are all wrong zapdos and mence are taken down easily by ice punch

And also what do you mean there is no synergy dude look at the team it's perfectly balanced. Machamps weaknesses are covered by spiritomb and heatran heatrans weaknesses are covered by politoed and honchkrow honchkrow's are covered by machamp heatran and politoed everyone is perectly covered and the point in the team is not to sweep it is to gradually force switches giving me free moves allowing me to then divide and conquer I can systematically destroy an entire team that way and after whiping around dynamicpunches all game I can even polish the game off with sucker punch with spiritomb or even stall them out with spiritomb do you comprehend now

 

[.Gamer]

Once again I don't need rocks lol and once again I have to show you your counters are all wrong zapdos and mence are taken down easily by ice punch

And also what do you mean there is no synergy dude look at the team it's perfectly balanced. Machamps weaknesses are covered by spiritomb and heatran heatrans weaknesses are covered by politoed and honchkrow honchkrow's are covered by machamp heatran and politoed everyone is perectly covered and the point in the team is not to sweep it is to gradually force switches giving me free moves allowing me to then divide and conquer I can systematically destroy an entire team that way and after whiping around dynamicpunches all game I can even polish the game off with sucker punch with spiritomb or even stall them out with spiritomb do you comprehend now

You should invest in a comma or period button. A little punctuation goes a long way.

 

[Salvation]

Once again I don't need rocks lol and once again I have to show you your counters are all wrong zapdos and mence are taken down easily by ice punch

And also what do you mean there is no synergy dude look at the team it's perfectly balanced. Machamps weaknesses are covered by spiritomb and heatran heatrans weaknesses are covered by politoed and honchkrow honchkrow's are covered by machamp heatran and politoed everyone is perectly covered and the point in the team is not to sweep it is to gradually force switches giving me free moves allowing me to then divide and conquer I can systematically destroy an entire team that way and after whiping around dynamicpunches all game I can even polish the game off with sucker punch with spiritomb or even stall them out with spiritomb do you comprehend now

And how are you forcing free switch ins exactly?

Edit: Btw, Eruption on Heatran can only be used with a Quiet Nature

 

[Skip Shot]

Once again I don't need rocks lol and once again I have to show you your counters are all wrong zapdos and mence are taken down easily by ice punch

And also what do you mean there is no synergy dude look at the team it's perfectly balanced. Machamps weaknesses are covered by spiritomb and heatran heatrans weaknesses are covered by politoed and honchkrow honchkrow's are covered by machamp heatran and politoed everyone is perectly covered and the point in the team is not to sweep it is to gradually force switches giving me free moves allowing me to then divide and conquer I can systematically destroy an entire team that way and after whiping around dynamicpunches all game I can even polish the game off with sucker punch with spiritomb or even stall them out with spiritomb do you comprehend now

So what is pokemon x's weaknesses are covered by pokemon y? Any player with even a fraction of a brain can do that. No, what we mean by synergy is how are you going to remove Pokemon to allow other Pokemon to sweep? What do you even want to sweep on this team? Honestly it looks like a bunch of Pokemon thrown together in less than 10 minutes to create a team that is like a Toyota truck- bad.

I suggest picking one pokemon on your team to sweep, and build your team around it. Use the stickied threat lists like D_A said in order to accomplish this best. Smogon's analyses also provide great adivce on teammates for most sets, so go check it out and stop whining.

 

[Crimson assassin]

Synergy refers to how the pokemon cover each others weaknesses and work together I rate teams also so I know what syenergy is
as for heatran I got it from my buddy so I guess that means he is a hacker so that tran is trashed.

As for forcing switches my pokemon pokemon are built for it machamp has a very large intimidation factor, as does honchkrow plus the ability to absorb burns, paralyzation, toxic and send them back also scares opponents after they see psycho shift, heatran who is being traded out for my legit rash hp grass one absorbs fire and scares opponents away with his flash fire. spiritomb scares away physical attackers easily with the threat of will-o-wisp this team easily forces switches

Let me ask what do you all reccomend I swap out?

 

[Salvation]

How does tran scare your opponent's with flash fire at all? At best it's just sitting there giving out a warning, DONT USE FLAMETHROWER.

And another question, how does your team benefit from the switches at all? I mean like, you don't have any entry hazzards lol.

 

[.Gamer]

Synergy refers to how the pokemon cover each others weaknesses and work together I rate teams also so I know what syenergy is
as for heatran I got it from my buddy so I guess that means he is a hacker so that tran is trashed.

Synergy also has to work offensively. I can cover weaknesses all day, but unless I can attack and do damage well what good is it? It works on both ends of the spectrum.

And yes, that means your friend is a hacker, and that Tran is trashed. (trashtran, new set!!!!!!!!)

Machamp wants 252 HP/248 Atk/8 Spe. Maximum survivability, and 8 Spe allows you to other run other machamps that run 4 Spe.

Politoed is outclassed by Vappy, so change that.

Tauros has no EVs. :O But there are also better CBers.

Salamence can 6-0 this team as it can set up on on Heatran/Tauros locked into the wrong move and destroy you.

I suggest a steel-type not named Lucario over Tauros to fix this problem.

Honckrow has no item either.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Once again I don't need rocks lol and once again I have to show you your counters are all wrong zapdos and mence are taken down easily by ice punch

That'd be cool, except all of then kinda OHKO and 2hko them. ._.

And no synergy is not about "covering weaks" its about opening up sweeps, which this team does not do.

Lastly saying you dont need Rocks shows vast inexperience. :/

 

[Crimson assassin]

umm bro I have battled for years so honestly i am quite sure i have quite a bit of experience and I honestly try not to use rocks on my teams it makes matches harder for me to win but it truly test how good of a player i am or at least it seems that way to me. I'll place a new rmt and we will se how you score that one

 

[StrickeN]

I've been battling for years too.

I don't pop up on S&M very often due to work but this is just sad.

Don't post a RMT then shoot down every single option the group gives you. It doesn't work that way.

Synergy isn't covering types. I'll show you why.

Lets say I have a Poke with EQ. You have a poke who flies. You switch to avoid EQ so your electric poke doesn't die. I now see your check. You not only take some SR damage (because I always have SR) but next time I see said poke, I know what to switch to / attack to use.

Your team basically gets 1 switch before it's all too predictable which loses games :>. Teams with synergy have to flow with each other, covering hazards that the other components of your team are threatened by. Doing this and raping walls and said threats allows you to open up sweeps with pokes like Lucario. This is one reason why Pursuit TTar and Lucario are so openly used together. Sorry Rotom-A you'll have to wait your turn :>.

You may have been battling for years but I dont' see where you get off as being a professional or anything near the sort. You seem like you need a lot of learning to be quite honest, no offense meant.

I mean I can 6-0 scrubs on Serebii all day long but it doesn't make me any better.


Now I know D_A knows what he's talking about. I've battled him before and have heeded his advice numerous times and it has worked out for the better. One of my best teams which I used to 6-0/5-0 with all the time (recorded as well) was a team he and many others ont his forum helped me complete.



Now I'll get to an actual rate.

Your Machamp lead does not effecitvely stop so many threats. The point of Lead champ is to screw up the opponents lead and force a switch / kill it / or stop what the lead is trying to do. IE: set up rocks

Machamp - Lum Berry
No Guard
Adament
IVs: 19 Spe
EVs - 252 HP / 160 Atk / 96 SpD
~ Substitute
~ Encore
~ DynamicPunch
~ Stone Edge / Payback

Sure it's a standard Smogon set. But it works infinately better than yours. Encores Rock abusers, lives psychics from Zelf. Encore abuses the free switch from rock user to allow free sub, which can then be used for Dpunch / Stone Edge or Payback.

If you absolutely must lead with that, use this.


Honchkrow set doesn't work very well. Psycho Shift really sucks. I also don't see an item. Super power / Sucker Punch / Drill Peck / Pursuit <-- pursuit rocks your socks. Allows you to trap stuck Rotom-A (who isn't stuck on Tbolt). Pretty much any psychic / Ghost stuck on amove that doesn'tkill you, loses it's life. Point of revenge killer. Which Honchkrow does well btw.

Spiritomb / Tauros / Politoed are all out classed. Rotom-A / Any Physical based sweeper / Vaporeon etc etc.

I've got to go, I'll probably finish this rate later.

 

[Anti]

You should invest in a comma or period button. A little punctuation goes a long way.

Let's try to avoid being a smartass.

Anyway, the OP obviously isn't going to take any advice. No point in keeping this open since the obvious flaws and weaknesses have already been pointed out and the OP has rejected them, so this thread is probably not going to end so well if it stays open.

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