The Best Overall Team (Unofficial)

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Toothache said:
Ok, what do you suggest as an alternative? The desire lately seems to be for a fast sweeper, and the main choice that resists Ice is Weavile. I guess Infernape also resists Ice too.
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Fast sweeper... Pachirisu No. Starmie? Choice Scarf, Jolly Kingler? Sceptile? Agiligross? Porygon-Z? All good options, how are you missing these?
 
Infernape is cool. Just bear in mind we still have 3 other Pokemon weak to Ice, and Infernape won't cover that weakness on his own with most Ice Beam users being Water type and usually some Def EV (Milotic anyone?).
 
Toothache said:
Infernape is cool. Just bear in mind we still have 3 other Pokemon weak to Ice, and Infernape won't cover that weakness on his own with most Ice Beam users being Water type and usually some Def EV (Milotic anyone?).
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But it doesn't matter about "Coolness" on the poke, their Base Stats, and movepool, are what counts. Infernape has a low base attack, but can get STAB and Power on CC. So it's a viable option.
 
Toothache said:
Infernape is cool. Just bear in mind we still have 3 other Pokemon weak to Ice, and Infernape won't cover that weakness on his own with most Ice Beam users being Water type and usually some Def EV (Milotic anyone?).
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Shall we put in Foretress/Bronzong instead of Tangrowth ?

Or Get rid of Draggy/Chomp and put in Agiligross ?
 
Itachi, Toothache didn't mean Infernape as "cool", he said it's ok in the team. Infernape is a must stay, trust me
 
Name said:
Itachi, Toothache didn't mean Infernape as "cool", he said it's ok in the team. Infernape is a must stay, trust me
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Okay. And yes, I agree on the last part. He is OU, has a lot of cool options to choose from, has great speed, and can outspeed and get a Grass Knot/T-Punch in on Water Types. I would go for T-Punch to counter Starmie. Edit: Skarmbliss, sounds good. Edit: II: Agiligross resists Ice too.
 
Agiligross is not a boltbeam counter :P BoltBeam counter = Blissey
 
Now we are going in circles. We lose a poke, then bring it right back! Didn't we get rid of Brozong for a speedy poke? But if we must, lets replace him (again) for Tangrowth.
 
In regards to Infenape


nfernape@life Orb/Focus Sash
Naive Nature
evs: 24atk/232speed/252sp.atk
- Close Combat
- Flamethrower
- Nasty Plot
- Grass Knot



what do you think? its a bit standard, but it works wonders and to say this is good at taking out walls is an understatement,
 
I say Stone Edge should be there...but thats just me.
 
Dark_Azelf said:
In regards to Infenape


nfernape@life Orb/Focus Sash
Naive Nature
evs: 24atk/232speed/252sp.atk
- Close Combat
- Flamethrower
- Nasty Plot
- Grass Knot



what do you think? its a bit standard, but it works wonders and to say this is good at taking out walls is an understatement,
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Name has suggested a simular set. Focus sash is the better item though, to survive a attack to usually get two Nasty Plots in. If a faster counter hasen't already been sent out, or if a pokemon Dd'ed up.
 
Itachi 2007 said:
Name has suggested a simular set. Focus sash is the better item though, to survive a attack to usually get two Nasty Plots in. If a faster counter hasen't already been sent out, or if a pokemon Dd'ed up.
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Yea thats why i put focus sash as an option

Also Stone Edge Can work in the Place of Nasty Plot or even Thuderpunch can work for stuff like Gyarados
 
Infernape requires Stone Edge for Mence/Togekiss/Charizard/Gyarados/Dragonite(too any to list)

It goes good coverage with Fight+Rock combo.

EDIT: Thunderpunch is also an okay option.
 
We need Tangrowth. Tangrowth as status inflictor/wall, he can take Ice Punch/Fang easily. The REAL issue here is if Nape serves more purpose than Weavile, and it depends, Weavile can take down so many Pokemonn with its hugely diverse moveset, but Nape has the aspect of being mixed and also defying ice. Nape gets my vote, as well as Garchomp because we need speed.
 
Do you know why we added Bronzong... Boltbeam resistance

And now you've taken him out of the picture and suddenly complaining about an Ice weakness... yeah makes sense *rolls eyes*

Tangrowth or Donphan need to go if we are that worried about Ice attacks... I'm sorry but Bronzong provides too many good resistances to be discarded without a second thought
 
If we HAVE to lose one, Tangrowth is an awesome poke and a serious status inflictor, but since physical tanks that are ice resistant are rare anyways, we still need him more than Donphan, plus Tangrowth only REALY fear of moves are Flamthrower and Ice Beam, and mine has taken ice Beams standing.
 
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