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The Best Overall Team (Unofficial)

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Hmm that could work nicely, but I think we are still going under the no legends thing at this point
 
Specs-Z or Scarf-Z? Definately Specs I think, we need the higher hitting power. So is this somewhere along the lines?

Blissey@Leftovers
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Atk
Bold
Serene Grace

Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Ice Beam / Thunder Wave
Seismic Toss / Thunder Wave

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Starmie@Leftovers
Timid
232 HP, 216 Spd, 60 ???

Surf
Thunderbolt / Ice Beam
Recover
Rapid Spin

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Dusknoir@Leftovers
Careful
252 HP, 180 Def, 78 Sp. Def

Pain Split
Fire Punch
WoW
Brick Break / Ice Punch

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Weezing@Black Sludge
Bold
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Spd

Pain Split
Haze
Sludge Bomb
Thunderbolt / WoW

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Porygon-Z@Choice Specs
Timid
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Adaptability

Tri Attack
Thunderbolt / HP Fighting
Ice Beam
Psychic / Dark Pulse

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Heracross@Choice Band
Adamant
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Def
Guts

Aerial Ace
Stone Edge
Megahorn
Close Combat

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Something like that? 3 Walls, a Special Spinner, a Sp. Sweep and Phys. Sweep...

EDIT: There is a Bliss that isn't seen much on PC...

Blissey@Leftovers
Calm
252 Def, 156 Sp. Def, 100 HP
Natural Cure

Charm / Calm Mind
Softboiled / Rest
Flamethrower / Ice Beam
Thunder Wave


~T_S
 
Oh, & Dusknoir. He's here too.
 
Oh, & Dusknoir. He's here too.

Fatboy needs his Leftovers dessert

"NOOOO!! MY FRENCH FRIES!! HOW DARE YOU KNOCK THEM OFF GLISCOR?!"

haha

Who wants to try and put in a Pokemon that takes advantage of Knock Off?
 
Advantage of getting their Item knocked off or knocking an opponents item off?

~T_S

Well, it's perplexing, normally you would say that there is no way to take advantage of Knock Off right? It could be useful if the opponent has Tricked you, which is really rare I understand
 
Yes, it is really rare, but we are trying to make the best team possible, and that is possible...

Problem is, I cannot think of a good reason to really use one. I would like a Trick using pokemon though. (Grumpig ftw!)

~T_S
 
Alakazam/Rotom =)

Dusknoir : "Hah! You knocked off my Choice Specs which I didn't NEED! NOW YOU SHALL DIE GLISCOR, TAKE AN ICE PUNCH!!"
 
Dusknoir : "Hah! You knocked off my Choice Specs which I didn't NEED! NOW YOU SHALL DIE GLISCOR, TAKE AN ICE PUNCH!!"

I would like to note here that you aren't killing your opponent's Pokémon. You're just making them faint.

That said, I like combos, but I can't really think of anything good that isn't already on the team or has been dismissed.
 
Yeah yeah yeah. They don' t die. Not till my Gya comes out.

Anywho, Rotom shouldn't even be mentioned here. Nor Grumpig. They are good, but not the best, hence why I'm skeptical about Weezing. Is he the best?
 
Yeah yeah yeah. They don' t die. Not till my Gya comes out.

Anywho, Rotom shouldn't even be mentioned here. Nor Grumpig. They are good, but not the best, hence why I'm skeptical about Weezing. Is he the best?

Weezing IS RIGGED!!! lol

Gallade and Medicham are the only Physical Sweepers on my head that can easily break through him
 
& Noir handles them. So we are pretty balanced. while it is impossible to have NO weaknesses, we come pretty close. I like the idea of a wall with Pain Split, although I think we should replace Noir. Just to me, we don't really need so many walls with Pain Split. But that's my insecurity.
 
I really don't see what people see in Blissey. It's not that great. A choice Band Garchomp can take out Blissey with outrage easily. If it can take out a Special Sweeper like Alakazam or Porygon-Z great (and even then it needs to be scared of Trick or Hyper Beam/Nasty plot boosted Tri-Attack) and even better if it can heal it's team, but unlike Snorlax /Milotic it has almost no Offensive Potential and unlike Skarmory/Bronzong it has no significant typing. It's not really that great.
 
He can be a Status absorber then...

Dusknoir@Leftovers
Careful
252 HP, 180 Def, 78 Sp. Def

Rest
Sleep Talk
Fire Punch
Brick Break / Ice Punch


@Romo-Owens: Ever heard of Serene Grace? Increased Freeze / Burn / Paralysis chance is nothing to sneeze at. Plus, it can learn Calm Mind, and become a decent hitter. It takes out Garchomp with Ice Beam, and what idiot keeps Blissey in on something that is going to 1HKO it? Simply put, most likely it'll be outrage, so what happens when skarm is chucked in? A free SR comes up because chomp is gonna switch. If it doesn't, that's their problem...

~T_S
 
I really don't see what people see in Blissey. It's not that great. A choice Band Garchomp can take out Blissey with outrage easily. If it can take out a Special Sweeper like Alakazam or Porygon-Z great (and even then it needs to be scared of Trick or Hyper Beam/Nasty plot boosted Tri-Attack) and even better if it can heal it's team, but unlike Snorlax /Milotic it has almost no Offensive Potential and unlike Skarmory/Bronzong it has no significant typing. It's not really that great.

Oh and God forbid someone should land a taunt on it.
 
Really? Ungodly HP, high SP.DEF? Are you serious? It's typing gives it one weakness-fighting. It can recover easily with Softboiled, status is useless on it, it can heal the team, it can even scare Chomp with Ice Beam, preventing switch-ins. Plus, it has Seismec Toss, so that is can fight back to a degree.

And what moron has Blissey against a Outraging Chomp?

You're thinking of Shuckle. Blissey can even run Serence Grace. It has Calm Mind, Ice Beam scares dragons, yadayadayada...

There's a reason why Blissey is the most talked about SP.Wall. Snorlax is good, but loses to Blissey in SP.Walling, which is what it's meant to do.

Blissey can even fuction in ubers. It can stand on Gya, since it has Seismec Toss.
 
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I really don't see what people see in Blissey. It's not that great. A choice Band Garchomp can take out Blissey with outrage easily. If it can take out a Special Sweeper like Alakazam or Porygon-Z great (and even then it needs to be scared of Trick or Hyper Beam/Nasty plot boosted Tri-Attack) and even better if it can heal it's team, but unlike Snorlax /Milotic it has almost no Offensive Potential and unlike Skarmory/Bronzong it has no significant typing. It's not really that great.

Like I said before...

Legends+

N00bs-

There you go for my opinion..

I couldn't have said this better myself.

Moving on, please?
 
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