The Daily-Chit Chat of 09'

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t.A.T.u said:

Everytime you quote my post you fail.

"How do I fail in this post" said Jack.

Well, I was obviously being sarcastic if you would have read the entire conversation.
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And every time you quote my posts, you fail.

"How do I fail in this reply," said t.A.T.u as he tried to figure out what inane thing to write out this time.

Sarcasm in text is rarely obvious.

Jordan said:

Still, there is no excuse for a country that puts so much military spending on its bills already to have an outdated artillery that could be traced back to the industrial era. The sentenced outlined in bold is a scary thought. I guess my belief stems from my hope that PR China abstain from taking a seat of military superpower status, since in any case, the military is still loyal to the state, which has tendency to use it for political gains (such as acquiring the buffer states of Tibet and Inner Mongolia, and the attack on Vietnam in 1979 for the sake of simply increasing military spending). However, you seem to know much more than I do about these subjects.
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The Sino-Vietnamese War had more to do with the fact that Vietnam had overthrown the Khmer Rouge, who received much of their support from the PRC. In any case, China's defeat in that conflict (even though they claimed victory, they still failed in their objective of convincing the Vietnamese to leave Cambodia) did indeed provide an impetus for modernization and doctrinal reform.
 
Jack O'Neill said:
And every time you quote my posts, you fail.

"How do I fail in this reply," said t.A.T.u as he tried to figure out what inane thing to write out this time.

Sarcasm in text is rarely obvious.


The Sino-Vietnamese War had more to do with the fact that Vietnam had overthrown the Khmer Rouge, who received much of their support from the PRC. In any case, China's defeat in that conflict (even though they claimed victory, they still failed in their objective of convincing the Vietnamese to leave Cambodia) did indeed provide an impetus for modernization and doctrinal reform.
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Thank you for just proving my point.

There is a time when no matter how or where you say it, it's just so obvious you're being sarcastic. My North Korea post was that time. You just should have read the rest of the conversation, which was only one more post before assuming I actually meant it.
 
t.A.T.u said:

There is a time when no matter how or where you say it, it's just so obvious you're being sarcastic. My North Korea post was that time. You just should have read the rest of the conversation, which was only one more post before assuming I actually meant it.
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Regardless of whether you were being sarcastic or not, I find this political and military discussion far more interesting to read than the previous topic... Which was... How boring Bleach is?
 
t.A.T.u said:



Thank you for just proving my point.

There is a time when no matter how or where you say it, it's just so obvious you're being sarcastic. My North Korea post was that time. You just should have read the rest of the conversation, which was only one more post before assuming I actually meant it.
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Don't mind Jack. If there is a way to add wikipedia-like text to a conversation--especially if it's military-related, he will jump at the chance disregarding any attempt at sarcasm or humour. ;)

But yeah I find this boring too but better than Bleach, sadly. XD;
 
Vendak said:
Regardless of whether you were being sarcastic or not, I find this political and military discussion far more interesting to read than the previous topic... Which was... How boring Bleach is?
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Lightning said:
Don't mind Jack. If there is a way to add wikipedia-like text to a conversation--especially if it's military-related, he will jump at the chance disregarding any attempt at sarcasm or humour. ;)

But yeah I find this boring too but better than Bleach, sadly. XD;
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I agree with both of you.
 
It is ALWAYS impossible to tell if something is insinuating sarcasm, unless if it is stated in the post. This will always happen in the internet, regardless... I mean one cannot tell voice tone on the internet, save for youtube...

People tend not to like to talk about politics (etc), because of how sensitive a topic it can be... IMO though, that's only because people allow their emotions to get the better of them, when attempting to argue their point...
 
Jack O'Neill said:
The Sino-Vietnamese War had more to do with the fact that Vietnam had overthrown the Khmer Rouge, who received much of their support from the PRC. In any case, China's defeat in that conflict (even though they claimed victory, they still failed in their objective of convincing the Vietnamese to leave Cambodia) did indeed provide an impetus for modernization and doctrinal reform.
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That can be debated actually. Myself a Vietnamese, I would love to claim a military victory; however, the PLA did manage to get relatively close to the capital (in fact, less than 100km away), then the military suddenly called off the mission. Deng Xiaoping himself declared the war a failure, and used it as a reason to increase military spending and modernization. In fact, Deng could have planned a feign defeat from the start, since he probably saw a need for reform.

Also, it's doubtful how much loyalty the People's Republic still gives to the Pol Pot regime at that point, since they could have extended the conflict with Vietnam easily, as they left in a matter of weeks. After that, I'm not sure how much support China gave to the Khmer Rouge monetary-wise, but the military support ended there in the invasion. The other other form of support I can see is probably their complaints to the UN about an unwarranted invasion by Vietnam, which ironically, they were at fault for as well.
 
I just find most politics boring, to be honest. :( If it's not in Canada or the US, I usually won't pay much attention. And even locally, I only started paying any attention to politics the other year. Before then I was content to ignore all of it completely.
 
Feign said:
It is ALWAYS impossible to tell if something is insinuating sarcasm, unless if it is stated in the post. This will always happen in the internet, regardless... I mean one cannot tell voice tone on the internet, save for youtube...

People tend not to like to talk about politics (etc), because of how sensitive a topic it can be... IMO though, that's only because people allow their emotions to get the better of them, when attempting to argue their point...
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You don't need tone to determine sarcasm. Punctuation and/or smilies do the job on the internet. The only people who cant distinguish it (at all) are people who have fail sarcasm detectors in real life.

Like my mom. O_o

I told her in a really obvious sarcastic tone that I fell off the house and broke my leg..right in front of her. And she freaked out like I was serious. x.x

Edit: Look at the first two posts on this page. Obvious sarcasm. /read quotes
 
Anytime I ever hear politics or anything even remotely related to it mentioned anywhere, everything starts to explode. So since the current topic is politics, North Korea, etc...the DCC will explode. Possibly.

*hides under rock*
 
No, not even punctuation or smilies will always do the job online. :/ Honestly, short of including a [/sarcasm] after every sarcastic remark, I try not to assume either way. I've confronted really close friends about posts they made only to find out that it was sarcastic and vice versa--whether or not any of them included excess italics or smilies. It's just too hard to tell online.

IRL there's rarely an excuse though. :P
 
Lightning said:
I just find most politics boring, to be honest. :( If it's not in Canada or the US, I usually won't pay much attention. And even locally, I only started paying any attention to politics the other year. Before then I was content to ignore all of it completely.
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As I said before, I never really "got into it" as in researching until 3 years ago. XD

Meh, I never really found it boring with the news even when I was a kid, and yeah, the fandom makes me want to drop it, but it's a great boon to my love of history. @.@

Sakura Rain said:
Anytime I ever hear politics or anything even remotely related to it mentioned anywhere, everything starts to explode. So since the current topic is politics, North Korea, etc...the DCC will explode. Possibly.

*hides under rock*
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Well not really, it depends on whether people want to be civil, but alas, it's the Internet. =/
 
Sakura Rain said:
Anytime I ever hear politics or anything even remotely related to it mentioned anywhere, everything starts to explode. So since the current topic is politics, North Korea, etc...the DCC will explode. Possibly.

*hides under rock*
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All matter shall transform into a primordial goo, also known as Erica's brain.

Just kidding ; 3

@Erica Like I said, read the first two posts on the page everything went boom-boom. Obvious sarcasm.
 
Netto Azure said:
Ok, since I have no other way of replying (I apologize)

All I have to say is...can you provide a summary? Youtube is blocked at school. XP
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When you get home, watch the video from start to finish, and make sure to pay very close attention to the subtitles. I'll leave you to figure out the rest of it on your own.
 
t.A.T.u said:

You don't need tone to determine sarcasm. Punctuation and/or smilies do the job on the internet. The only people who cant distinguish it (at all) are people who have fail sarcasm detectors in real life.

Like my mom. O_o

I told her in a really obvious sarcastic tone that I fell off the house and broke my leg..right in front of her. And she freaked out like I was serious. x.x

Edit: Look at the first two posts on this page. Obvious sarcasm.
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I was speaking of regular grammar only, but even then it can be difficult to distinguish it, even with smilies:

Wow I like your hair!

Wow... I like your hair!

Wow, I like your hair! :P

etc

The smile could even just be something from before that sentence, or indeed a compliment, only because the person who is making the comment doesn't have good looking hair, and is in fact making a genuine comment.
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Also, I'd love to argue politics with people, though I wouldn't want sourcing to include wikipedia, as that source is not good enough... Furthermore, people should be arguing their point, or the point that is being argued, and nothing else... Not any of this ad homenium crap... If someone is just going to cry over another's claim about something fanatical, they've already lost, even if the argument is completely absurd...
 
Feign said:
I was speaking of regular grammar only, but even then it can be difficult to distinguish it, even with smilies:

Wow I like your hair!

Wow... I like your hair!

Wow, I like your hair! :P

etc

The smile could even just be something from before that sentence, or indeed a compliment, only because the person who is making the comment doesn't have good looking hair, and is in fact making a genuine comment.
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Also, I'd love to argue politics with people, though I wouldn't want sourcing to include wikipedia, as that source is not good enough... Furthermore, people should be arguing their point, or the point that is being argued, and nothing else... Not any of this ad homenium crap... If someone is just going to cry over another's claim about something fanatical, they've already lost, even if the argument is completely absurd...
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Yes, but not with what . A r u r o k u . and I were saying. Obvious sarcasm.
 
The best smilie for trying to clue people in on sarcasm is
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t.A.T.u said:

Yes, but not with what . A r u r o k u . and I were saying. Obvious sarcasm.
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Yeah but we've moved on from talking about your specific example and are now tackling your
You don't need tone to determine sarcasm. Punctuation and/or smilies do the job on the internet.
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statement.
 
. A k u R o k u . said:
... What is this madness you speak of?! Free-will? Opinion?! Bah! Dx
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But this can still be taken as not sarcasm either. It could after all be a general statement or question. And no, I am not taking into factors such as knowing the person etc...

By itself (and even with the previous quoted material), it could still technically be seen as a question and statement. ;)
 
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