The Evolution of Rivals

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    On the development of 'rivals' and complex character networking in the Pokemon series said:
    One argument I'll never understand from '90s series Pokemon lovers is that the OS did a superior job in creating dynamic relationships between the characters. I understand they're probably referring to the original trio — Ash, Brock, and Misty, which undoubtedly was one of most wonderfully executed main casts of the whole series.

    But, as Pokemon carries on through the generations, there is one thing that the writers are consistently getting better at doing: creating rivalries and integrating these relationships to create complex networks of characters that all interact with one another.

    Gary was the original rival of the Pokemon series, and he's revered as one of the fandom's (if not the whole Internet's) favorite antagonists. I mean, the guy has his own meme.

    His teasing of Ash will forever be one of the series' most loved running gags ("Gary was here! Ash is a loser!"), but there's an end to the awesomeness: His relationship is limited to Ash throughout the OS. He barely interacts with Misty or Brock. It's Ash and Gary, and that's it.

    Ash's secondary OS rival, Ritchie, also fails to engage with characters outside of Ash. There's a scene in EP079 in which Misty gets upset when Jessie, under the guise of Ritchie's voice, calls her a "big mouth," but there's not much beyond that.

    AG started to break the limited role of rivals. For starters, May is the first of Ash's companions to receive her own rival: Drew.

    Drew actually breaks out of a lot of the former limitations of the rival archetype. Not only is he the first rival of a Pokegirl, he's also the first rival to, on multiple occasions, actively interact with other characters. In fact, Drew's battle with Ash in AG050 marks the first time a rival battles a main character who isn't their rival.

    Interestingly, Drew also develops relationships with May's other rivals: namely, Harley. This did not happen at all in the OS. Did Ritchie and Gary even appear on the same screen together? Much less the same episode?

    AG goes further. May's rivals all know and interact with one another. Drew and Harley have several major confrontations over May. Solidad defeated Drew in his first contest. Harley and Solidad are old friends.

    That's a network.

    The deal was sealed by DP077, when the three appeared together in the same room, watching May compete in the Wallace Cup.

    Drew apparently started a trend, too, because each of the subsequent series have been getting better and better at integrating its rivalries and creating a web of relationships among the cast.

    Literally most of the DP cast is connected to one another in some form. Dawn, Kenny, Zoey, Nando, Barry, Conway, Ash, and Paul are all in the same network of trainers — and half don't even belong to the same trainer class. This happens because Dawn, Ash, and their respective rivals cross class networks to interact with one another.

    Barry and Kenny are best friends. Zoey and Paul get into a spat in DP128. Conway is Dawn's partner in the Hearthorme Tag Battles. Nando is especially interesting, because he's both a coordinator and a trainer, and his major battles are pit against Zoey and Ash.

    Moreover, Paul, as Ash's second major rival, also gets more opportunities to interact with Ash's companions than Gary did. He has a brief conversation with Brock in DP100. With Dawn, there's the famous volcanic eruption in DP016, and then their talk in DP186.

    The DP series also introduces some cross-generational interaction with rivals. When Misty returned during AG, she didn't have the opportunity to meet, much less hear of any of May's contest opponents. It's a different story when May returns in DP; she forms a friendship with Zoey, Dawn's main rival, and gets to battle her in the Wallace Cup.

    In fact, perhaps the only "limited" rivalry in DP is between Dawn and Ursula. But even Ursula gets to battle outside of this relationship, defeating and forming a second rivalry with Jessilina/Jessie in DP114.

    Then came BW.

    Initially, it seemed the series would lose its complex webbing of character relationships with the loss of contests. That notion was squashed with the introduction of Don George Tournaments, which are basically cesspools of character interaction.

    However, rather than relying on backstories to connect characters — Kenny and Dawn being childhood friends, or having Zoey defeat Kenny at the Jubilife Contest off-screen in a DP026 flashback — there's a stronger focus on the here and now and the actions that occur in the present.

    Also, for the first time, all three characters in the main cast have a rival. Iris has Georgia, Cilan has Burgundy, and Ash has Trip, Bianca, Stephan, Cameron, and Virgil. Five. That tops Ash's four DP rivals.

    However, the big difference between networks in DP and BW is that there are a ton of battles in the latter. Battles everywhere and with everyone; it doesn't matter who your rival is. It's like Ash versus Drew every single tournament. We've seen Cilan versus Trip, Ash versus Georgia, Iris versus Burgundy, Trip versus Bianca, Stephan versus Iris, the list goes on.

    The interaction extends beyond the battlefield, too. Georgia and Burgundy are usually hanging out on the sidelines together, Stephan gets to "judge" a connoisseur showdown between Burgundy and Cilan, Bianca (the flirt) literally feels up Stephan's muscles in BW071 and gives Virgil ice cream in BW105, and Cilan, Cameron, Ash, and Stephan go to the sauna several times throughout the Unova league.

    Cross-generational interaction also happens again when Dawn returns for the Junior World Cup and meets Burgundy.

    The trend from rivalries being totally closed-off between two people in the OS to being more of a free-for-all in BW is an interesting one. It's made the series, in my opinion, more enjoyable. The OS certainly has complex, dynamic relationships on a one-on-one level; however, the intersectionality of characters and their rivals in later generations is what builds regional casts with active and compelling relationships.

    That's change, for the better.

    Now we're talking here not about which generation was better, or which rivals were your favourites, or what you think would be best for the future. Not really, anyway. This is about character interaction and networks brought about by rivalries.

    Do you agree with points in the above post? Which one do you agree with and which ones don't you? We see from this post that the position of 'rival' has been very important in furthering well-rounded character interaction, but do you think at this point the anime could do away with the explicitly stated rival and favour the implicit rivalry of "we're friends and we battle with all our strength to show each other how far we've come"? How do you feel about seeing the progression from limited interaction to massive networks of characters? And anything else pertaining to this general topic you can think to comment about, please do!
     
    Well all is well written here and I think almost all the points mentioned are correct. In the future though I wanted to see Ash's rival with the characteristics of both Gary and Paul
     
    I always felt as though the rivals were getting better and better in the series, with the exception of Advanced.

    Before reading this post, I really disliked that Ash's only rivals in Hoenn were those he met at the very end, right before the pokemon league. However, I realize now that I was mistaken, because my scope was limited to just Ash. May had a very good network of rivals in the Advanced series. This post made me change my mind, that whereas I had previously believed that the rivals downgraded from the OS to Advanced (from the limited scope of just looking at Ash), I realize now that these relations were much more dynamic than the ones in the OS.

    I like the amount of rivals that BW has for all characters, especially Cilan. Brock/Tracy never had a rival, so Cilan having rivals is a good improvement. Although I recognize that BW has more rivals than DP and that there are more networks between the different trainers, I don't feel as though any of them were as strong of a rivalry as between Paul and Ash. Even if there were more, none of the rivals in BW had as much of a motive to prove that they could come out on top as the central rivalry in DP. I like the more explicit rivalries, than just the implicit "we're friends" ones, because there's more on the line when at least one of the rivals is antagonistic towards the other.

    This is somewhat an unrelated note, but it always puzzled me why they included Bianca as a rival for Ash in BW, but not Cheren.
     
    Most rivals were OK, but holy crap did I HATE Paul, he was one of the worst characters in the entire franchise for me, he was just a total jerk with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. The most annoying rival would have to be Ursula, I just wanted to gag her everytime she opened her mouth.
     
    Vexer, honey... this isn't about which rivals you liked best, or what qualities you look for in a rival. This thread is about the more meta role of rivals in Pokémon, which is to help create an intricate network of social interaction between a slew of characters. Please read the first post before you respond to threads and not just the title.

    Shrew said:
    I like the amount of rivals that BW has for all characters, especially Cilan. Brock/Tracy never had a rival, so Cilan having rivals is a good improvement. Although I recognize that BW has more rivals than DP and that there are more networks between the different trainers, I don't feel as though any of them were as strong of a rivalry as between Paul and Ash. Even if there were more, none of the rivals in BW had as much of a motive to prove that they could come out on top as the central rivalry in DP. I like the more explicit rivalries, than just the implicit "we're friends" ones, because there's more on the line when at least one of the rivals is antagonistic towards the other.
    I'm agreeing with you 100% on the Paul and Ash thing. Their relationship was very well written and deep. I think they almost tried to clone Paul's personality onto Trip, but um... failed miserably. I honestly think DP character interactions were really difficult to follow up, but BW seemed to barely rise to the challenge in the character development department. Many of the rivals were really great characters with a lot of potential, but I didn't see that being used much at all. They never got much development nor furthered the main trio's development. What BW did in terms of character networking was fantastic and even having recurring background tournament characters gave the feel of many people on similar journeys at similar times. But they just... started out with strong character personalities and forgot the on-screen development.

    Ah I didn't really phrase that well at all I guess. Or had BW in my head too much when typing it haha. What I meant more with implicit vs explicit was like... in BW, they go on and on and on about "you're my rival!" "I guess we're rivals!" "they're my rival so I need to beat them!". Like shoving the notion of 'rival' in the audience's face. I'd like it to be more implicit- "I'm going to take my revenge on Cilan this time!" "Georgia's not going to beat me!" "Cameron's strong- but I'm going to give it all I have!" I would like more of a personal spin to the relationship- rival seems so very generic now, and almost like a joke.
     
    Sorry my bad(please don't call me "honey" though). Anyways I think the quality of rivals has been up and down, Gary was a worthy opponent who developed from a smug jerk into a fairly decent guy, and when Ash lost to him it didn't feel forced. Trip started as a poor Paul clone and eventually became a decent guy.

    Dawn and Zoey's rivalry was pretty well-developed, they were close friends who were worthy opponents to one another. But I felt like Ash never truly got a rival like that(I don't get the same vibes from Ash/Trip that I did for Dawn/Zoey), there was Ritchie I suppose, but he was introduced late in the series so he didn't have much time to develop.
     
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