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The Fast and the Furious (OU)

Detox

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    eah, so by now you should know I have problems making teams that work together in the slightest. So yeah, this one will probably be a train wreck. No pictures because right now because im feeling lazy . But Icons are nice.

    At A Glance...
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    IN DEPTH


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    Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash
    Jolly Nature
    Trait: Pressure
    252 Attack | 252 Speed | 4 HP
    -Stealth Rock
    -Taunt
    -Rock Slide
    -Earthquake
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    Aero here obviously serves as my lead. He sts up rocks, which can break sashes and do a great bit of damage to some things. I use Rock Slide over Stone Edge for accuracy, and that chance to flinch.
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    Heracross @ Choice Band | Choice Scarf
    Adamant | Jolly Nature
    Trait: Guts
    252 Attack | 252 Speed | 4 HP
    -Close Combat
    -Megahorn
    -Night Slash
    -Stone Edge
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    Heracross is an amazing physical sweeper. The problem is, I can decide If I want to use a Choice Band and Adamant for late game, or Jolly and a scarf for revenge killing.Im also thinking about slapping a Life Orb on it and using it as a SD sweeper.Sooo many options here


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    Infernape @ Choice Specs
    Timid Nature
    Trait: Blaze
    252 Special Attack | 252 Speed | 4 HP
    -Focus Blast
    -Fire Blast | Flamethrower
    -Grass Knot
    -Vaccum Wave
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    Normally if I wanted a special attacker of the fire type, id just use heaty. No, not this time. Infernape has access to nasty plot, making it just that much more potent. Fire blast/Flamethrower handles the likes of Scizor, Meta, Skarm, Bronzong, and any other steel types looking to ruin my day. Grass knot rips Swampy to shreds, and Focus blast lols at anything that doesnt resist after a NP.


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    Mamoswine @ Life orb
    Adamant Nature
    Trait: Snow Cloak
    252 Attack | 252 Speed | 4 HP
    -Ice Shard
    -Ice Fang
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
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    Mamo stops the likes of Salamence, Dragonite, Latias etc. cold. Ice shard provides Priority and Ice fang is there if I need more power. Stone Edge can aldo hit Gyara and Tokekiss for SE damage, while Earthquake is STAB.


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    Gengar @ Choice Scarf
    Timid Nature
    Trait: Levitate
    252 Special Attack | 252 Speed | 4 Special Defense
    -Shadow Ball
    -Thunderbolt
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Focus Blast
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    I know you may b wondering, why explosion over focus Blast? Well, with Infernape having Focus Blast, and Gengar not being able to do crap to blissey without it,its there. I know I may need more attack EV's to KO bold blissey, but a RMT is to help improve a team. This also provides a revenge killer for Mence and Gyara, and a fighting resist (Take that Machamp...)



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    Tyranitar @ Life Orb
    Jolly Nature
    Trait: Sand Stream
    252 Attack | 252 Speed | 4 HP
    -Crunch
    -Stone Edge
    -Earthquake
    -Dragon Dance
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    T-tar here provides a nice psychic type resist, and sorta smashes Azelf and Alakazam to bits. He also is able to handle Jolteon very well, with sand strwam boosting his sp. def.






    Threat List
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    • Green means they are not a problem for me.
    • Blue means they can cause a bit of trouble.
    • Red means they are very difficult to take down.


    Offensive Threats
    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Aerodactyl : Its a Lead, my own aero can taunt it and Rock slide it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Alakazam : Gengar and Tyranitar lol at it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Azelf : Once again, Gengar and Tyranitar.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Breloom : Good luck finding a safe switch in,Everthing here can massacre it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Dragonite : Mamoswine and Gengar handle him
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Dugtrio : Yeah, it does cause a bit of trouble, but Mamo Handles it with Ice Shard, and gengy can come in with HP Ice
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Electivire :LOL
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Empoleon : This is sorta a problem too. I have no water resists, but Infernape can focus blast it and Gengar can thunderbolt it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Flygon : Picked off by mamoswine.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Gengar : A bit of trouble if its scarfeed, but if it isnt bo biggie.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Gyarados : Gengar Revenge kills it, and Mamoswines Ice shard actually does a bit of damage to it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Heatran : Infernape can switch in on fire blas anh HP Ice with ease, gengy handles explosion and earth power
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Heracross : I only fear scarfed versions, other wise infernape handles it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Infernape : Gengar handles mixapes pretty easily, but full physical versions can be a pain.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Jirachi : Not that big of a deal. Infernape can stop it, gengy can revenge kill it, and even tyranitar can come in ant earthquake it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Jolteon : Tyranitar can come in, take a fer thunderbolts and earthquake it
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Kingdra : Mamoswine Can Ice shard it, and if that doesnt KO it, I have gengy.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Latias : Mamoswine...Gengar...Tyranitar...
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Lucario :Yay for infernape! it destroys it.So does Hera.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Machamp : Well.....I hate this four armed beast...It can cause quit a pain,but Gengar can come in and lol at it and wear it down.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Magnezone: Tyranitar, Infernape, they both stoped it, scarfed or not.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Mamoswine : Ice Shard does Crap to infernape, who can OHKO it with ease.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Metagross : Infernape, Mamo, and Gengar to an extent handle meta.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Porygon-Z : Who even uses this...Eh, T-Tar can come in an sponge a few hits, DD up and OHKO it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Rhyperior : My whole Team Weak imo...
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Salamence : Gengy revenge kills, so does mamo.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Scizor : Infernape weak.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Starmie : Gengar kills it with ease.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Togekiss : Mamo handles it with ease, Infernapes and Hera's Close combat like does a ton of damage, T-Tar's Stone egde OHKOs it, and gengy can Revenge kill it.
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    "image removed"Tyranitar : Infernape Destroys the poor thing after a nasty plot, and Hera just comes in and lols at it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Weavile : Again, my whole team weak. Gtfo
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    Defensive Threat List

    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Blissey : Yeah, Hera Slams it with CC and its lights out
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Bronzong : Infernape can OHKO with Fire Blast after an NP, and hera's megahorn also leaves a dent in it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Celebi : Infernape sorta destroys it...Heracross just owns it too hardly.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Cresselia : Tyranitar, Gengar, and Heracross punish it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Donphan : ...Mamo and Geng destroy it, and infernape grass knots the poor thing to death.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Forretress : Hahaha, Infernape destroys it, and T-Tar does decent damage against it too.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Gliscor : No problem at all, Gengar and Mamo destroy this wannabe wall.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Hippowdon :Slightly annoying, Ape Grass knots it, geny Has HP ice and Mamo deals out good damage as well.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Skarmory : Infernape and gengy lol at poor old skarm.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Snorlax : Close combat means GG
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Suicune: Hmm...well, gengy can wear it down, and ape can grass knot it, but it can still be a pain.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Swampert : Infernape and Grass knot destroy it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Tentacruel : Who even uses this, ugh...Tyranitar takes little damage from it and EQs it
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Vaporeon : Ape can wear it down, geng can revenge kill it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Zapdos : Eh, Tyranitar Says hi. Heat wave from defensive Dos wont OHKO Hera so yeah, Stone Edge.
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    Threat list...should be fun

    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Breloom : Good luck finding a safe switch in,Everthing here can massacre it. ← Tyranitar is a free switch in for this guy as it resists all its moves. I guess Gengar can kinda wall it if you let something get slept ? Well not really, but eh.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Dugtrio : Yeah, it does cause a bit of trouble, but Mamo Handles it with Ice Shard, and gengy can come in with HP Ice. ← Dude this is a HUGE Problem, it can take out Ape, Hera and Tar, just be careful of that.


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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Electivire :lol ← If this gets in a Motor Drive boost, then lol at you since it 6-0's you and Gengar cant OHKO it without Boom which then opens up your team for sweeps since your revenge killer has gone.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Flygon : Picked off by mamoswine. ← Late game locked into Outrage yes but early game it can just Dragon Claw/U-Turn your team.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Heatran : Infernape can switch in on fire blas anh HP Ice with ease, gengy handles explosion and earth power ← Umm no, Infernape is 2hko'd by Scarf Tran's Fire Blast lol. Your best check would be Tyranitar.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Jirachi : Not that big of a deal. Infernape can stop it, gengy can revenge kill it, and even tyranitar can come in ant earthquake it. ← Watch out for Iron Head which petty much lols at both Gar AND T-Tar (Gar also cant OHKO). I also have doubts about Infernape since it takes ~30% from an Iron head which is easily translated into flinching.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Jolteon : Tyranitar can come in, take a fer thunderbolts and earthquake it ← Specs Jolt 2hko's Tyranitar, Mamo would be your best check.

    | Jolteon | Item | Choice Specs | 42.1 |
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Kingdra : Mamoswine Can Ice shard it, and if that doesnt KO it, I have gengy. ← ?_? Ice Shard doesnt OHKO (Its not weak to it) and neither can Gengar. I guess if you sacrifice something, but eh.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Lucario :Yay for infernape! it destroys it.So does Hera. ← Umm...no.. SD LO Extremespeed OHKO's all of your "counters". Oh and guess what ? Gengar cant ohko because you dont have F-Blast. =/
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Machamp : Well.....I hate this four armed beast...It can cause quit a pain,but Gengar can come in and lol at it and wear it down. ← Sub/Payback/D-Punch/Stone Edge is common these days on Machamp.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Metagross : Infernape, Mamo, and Gengar to an extent handle meta.← Again no, Agiligross 6-0's you. Gengar does squat to it.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Rhyperior : My whole Team Weak imo... ← Rock Polish Rhyperior 6-0's you (even more without Focus Blast), it can come in on Tar survive a hit thanks to solid rock and yeah..
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Scizor : Infernape weak. ← A Swords Dance Life Orb Bullet Punch does ~80% to Infernape. That and the choice bander owns it with U-Turns. It can also Pursuit Gengar with ease.
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    "image removed"Tyranitar : Infernape Destroys the poor thing after a nasty plot, and Hera just comes in and lols at it. ← Again whilst not a direct threat, it can Pursuit Gengar easily to open up sweeps, even more so thanks to you not using Focus Blast.
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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Weavile : Again, my whole team weak. Gtfo ← More like your whole team is weak to this. No joke SD Weavile 6-0's you, Gengar cant OHKO it and ape it OHKO'd by a SD LO BB. CB Weavile can also Pursuit Gar.
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    Defensive Threat List

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    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*Forretress : Hahaha, Infernape destroys it, and T-Tar does decent damage against it too. ← How does Tyranitar hit it exactly ? it can just Gyro Ball you for massive damage.
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    Ill just leave this here.

    ...

    Gengar wants Focus Blast. Explosion is so much ass on non LO Gar I cant even begin to describe the ass, it does like 3 to Blissey lol.

    You're also not weak to Blissey in any sense of the word so Explosion makes no sense. Focus Blast > it.

    Platinum Scarf Gengar also wants Will-o-wisp or Hypnosis >> HP ice because :

    A. To avoid being utter Pursuit bait and to cripple checks/counters.
    B. HP Ice sucks and you have Mamo for dragons.
     
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    Okay I changed Gengar...

    What if I changed Infernape into A SpecsApe with Vaccum Wave for Lucario and Weavile?

    EDIT: I sorta ran a few calcs and found out that even though breloom Resists all of Tyranitars moves, if it has a DD under its belt (Which it usually does from the testing I did with this team) It sorta OHKOs it.
     
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    Syndrome said:
    Okay I changed Gengar...

    What if I changed Infernape into A SpecsApe with Vaccum Wave for Lucario and Weavile?

    EDIT: I sorta ran a few calcs and found out that even though breloom Resists all of Tyranitars moves, if it has a DD under its belt (Which it usually does from the testing I did with this team) It sorta OHKOs it.
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    +1 lo stone evs vs 44 hp/0 def Breloom : - 72.43% - 85.29% not even a ohko with SR up.
     
    Okay...so the calc might have been wrong...

    Is there anything else I can do to to help eliminate any other weaknesses?

    Still looking for rates, I really need them...
     
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    You could run NastyPlot Mixape as I personally find that works better.

    Infernape@ Life Orb
    EV : 64 Attack | 252 Special Attack | 176 Speed
    Nature : Naive(-SpD, +Spe)
    -Close Combat
    -Fire Blast
    -HP Ice / Grass Knot
    -Nasty Plot

    Run Stone Edge > Rock Slide, the accuracy is iffy but you're losing alot of power by not running Stone Edge.

    On Ttar run Fire Punch > Earthquake, it still hits Steel-types hard and also Skarmory and Bronzong plus a much harder hit on Scizor.

    LO Ice Shard doesn't KO Kingdra, its something you may want to keep an eye out for.

    Good team.
     
    Ill try running that Infernape later on. I Also tested out that SpecsApe and I fell comfortable using it to help against Waevile and luke,but again I will still test Mixape here.

    Yeah, I realized that during testing, Rock Slide made some hits that were supposed to be OHKO's into 2HKO's...


    Eh, I really dont think I would leave T-tar in an a Scizor, even with fire punch...it does a chunk of damage to it. But it is a possibility for stopping Breloom, eh?
     
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