5th Gen The Generation Five Speculation Thread

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rN Haza said:
I agree with you. I wouldnt be upset or super excited. Im not that into Lucario and it gets annoying when people make every occasion about him. What ever this fifth gen brings will make me happy.
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Maybe lucario's Aura will get corrupted?
 
Fresh said:
i got a question, are the pokemon regions based off anything? and did the creators "set" the most generations they planned to do, or not? just was curious cause, we got Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Shinnoh, Now there will be a fifth one. if you include sevii then it's six but yeah..
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All of the regions are based off of specific regions of Japan. There are maps that show direct comparisons too.
 
Notch-Eared Pichu said:
I came up with a theory concerning Z's relationship to Celebi. Bare with me here:

Z, like Celebi, is able to travel through time. Also, based on the codename 'Z' we can speculate that it may be the opposite Pokemon to Arceus (A to Z, Alpha to Omega). Now, perhaps Z is Arceus's opposite, but at the same time, Z is Celebi's counterpart. Where Celebi travels through time to keep peace and protect the forests, Z travels through time to cause havoc and destruction. So, in the upcoming movie, Z is chasing Celebi through time to eradicate her and have free reign to cause destruction throughout time. Where do Suicune, Raikou, and Entei fit into this? Z is the cause of the destruction of the Brass tower in Ecruteak and also is the one who caused the deathes of Suicune, Raikou, and Entei. So, the three beasts are tailing Z when they sense that there is a disturbance in the balance of nature in order to stop Z from killing Celebi.

This is a theory based on what I've gathered from this thread, my own imagination, and the thought that Z could be the first 'evil' Pokemon.

Tell me what you guys think =)
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Hmm... Mewtwo wasn't any angel either
 
Eos Aduro said:
And when we say that a typing already covers light, why does it need to be covered? By saying that, you assume that light is already an integrated and necessary part of the game, which its not.

Also, an expectation I would like to see for this game is the inclusion of both contests AND Pokeathlon. Having both would just make life easier!!

And HOW do the games say otherwise, other than your feeling? This is NOT the perfect time for it, where the game has developped into a systematically perfect entity! The seventeen types balance out nearly perfectly, with favoritism to the types that honestly SHOULD be favored for the games target audience. Dragon is powerful because PEOPLE LIKE DRAGONS! Poison is not because NO ONE LIKES POISON! Adding another type now doesn't have any real benefit to the games, other than throwing a wrench in the works.
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Woah, calm down there. I get it, you don't like the idea of light type.

I didn't like the idea either of new types just a few months ago (apart from ??? type, but, moving on). But, seeing how the game is played, it could really use just a few more types. Not more than two or three, but just for a little more balance. For example, dragon is only super-effective against other dragon-type Pokemon. For a type as ultimate as dragon, don't you think that it needs to be a bit more "awesome"? I propose the light type would make a good weakness to dragon- even the "good" cannot beat dragons.



According the the first news release of a new Generation, they called it an "inventive rebirth". So, don't be surprised if they change around a few things. This generation may be entirely different from the Pokemon that we grew up playing.
 
I'll quote something I wrote somewhere else:

I don't see how Psychic and Light go together at all. I think it's more just people trying to justify away Light from being a legitimate possibility.

I don't know why everyone says there shouldn't be new types because of why they were added last time. It doesn't have to be the same reason every time. Imagine if they never added Dark and Steel. Would people still not want new types? What would be the excuse against them then?

Also, Ground is a little too powerful (just look at how frequently Pokemon are taught Earthquake), so could use a little balancing out. And something super effective against Dark/Ghost could be good.
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Keep in mind, if they went by an 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' philosophy, there would be no abilities or special-physical split. The new type isn't necessary, but each generation needs something extra to spice it up. People are already complaining about lack of orginally. And most of the ideas of new type combinations aren't very natural, unless they somehow involve Dragon.

Also keep in mind, Light means like 'good' (or rather 'aether'), not the particle wave. There's no need to condense types to extremes. Just look at the TCG to see how far it could go...

I'm not saying I really want it, I'd be happy with any other remix to the battle system like the SpA-SpD split, abilities or the special-physical split. But Light (Aether in the Japanese version ;)) would be nice if that's the way they decide to swing it.
 
As far as Pokemon redesigns go, I really don't want to see many Pokemon redesigned, but I'd still like to see Grovyle and Sceptile to switch designs. Grovyle looks too cool to the point where you don't want to evolve it knowing that it will turn into a hideous bipedal dinosaur.
 
I agree that they need to add something to "spice it up" as they do every generation but I just don't see them adding a new type this far into it. If they were going to add new types surely the 3rd and 4th Generations were the time to do it?

Also:

Notch-Eared Pichu said:
[PokeCommunity.com] The Generation Five Speculation Thread
credit to whomever made this epic of epic pics.

I think this is the coolest speculation yet...but, sadly, it looks too much like a Sonic character =( However, I'd die to have it in Gen 5! Saw all the others and...yeesh. The ram, the one from that german scan or whatever, and the others all look terrible! I pray that it doesn't turn out to be any of them other than the one above.
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This is so sweet, if they actually used this for the final thing I would be happy haha although I suppose I can't wait to see the real thing. I'm stuck between it being a Riolu evo, Mightyena evo or just a new pokemon altogether. Anyway won't be too long before we find out!
 
Fresh said:
i got a question, are the pokemon regions based off anything? and did the creators "set" the most generations they planned to do, or not? just was curious cause, we got Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Shinnoh, Now there will be a fifth one. if you include sevii then it's six but yeah..
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I think at some point somebody said they acctually created over a thopusand Pokemon...

it's way more by now, I bet. XD
 
Myles said:
I'll quote something I wrote somewhere else:

Keep in mind, if they went by an 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' philosophy, there would be no abilities or special-physical split. The new type isn't necessary, but each generation needs something extra to spice it up. People are already complaining about lack of orginally. And most of the ideas of new type combinations aren't very natural, unless they somehow involve Dragon.

Also keep in mind, Light means like 'good' (or rather 'aether'), not the particle wave. There's no need to condense types to extremes. Just look at the TCG to see how far it could go...

I'm not saying I really want it, I'd be happy with any other remix to the battle system like the SpA-SpD split, abilities or the special-physical split. But Light (Aether in the Japanese version ;)) would be nice if that's the way they decide to swing it.
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I think the special-physical split was broke. Or the time before it at least. I know me along with many others wondered how crunch and Leaf Blade could be special while moves like shadow ball were physical. Abilities and natures they worked in really well but that came after pokemon's second generation. A time when all the other mass media objects were dying out (Digimon, Yu Gi Oh, Beyblade etc.) Pokemon had to survive somehow and I think that was a big part of pokemon's evolution.

I can't see personally how a light type would help the pokemon franchise, it's as strong as it ever was. As far as people complaining about it's originality they really just need to take off the nostalgia glasses. Pokemon in my opinion has gotten more original as time has gone on. Maybe a light type could really benefit generation 5 but I can't see a valid problem with the types as they are.

To me, a "good guy" type doesn't work. I think pokemon and people for that matter should be good based on who they are as a pokemon and not on what type they are. Not all dark pokemon are evil, and not all ghost pokemon are bad, so it really doesn't make much sense to create a sort of "holy" type. I don't know maybe I misinterpreted what you meant...

Marilynasol said:
Woah, calm down there. I get it, you don't like the idea of light type.

I didn't like the idea either of new types just a few months ago (apart from ??? type, but, moving on). But, seeing how the game is played, it could really use just a few more types. Not more than two or three, but just for a little more balance. For example, dragon is only super-effective against other dragon-type Pokemon. For a type as ultimate as dragon, don't you think that it needs to be a bit more "awesome"? I propose the light type would make a good weakness to dragon- even the "good" cannot beat dragons.



According the the first news release of a new Generation, they called it an "inventive rebirth". So, don't be surprised if they change around a few things. This generation may be entirely different from the Pokemon that we grew up playing.
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Dragon may only be supereffective on Dragon but it leads me to the same point I made about electric types on the previous page. Dragon types are generally very strong. A Salamence with a boosted Outrage is nearly impossible to stop, can you imagine trying to stop it if Outrage was supereffective on half of the metagame (hyperbole)!? As I said earlier, I think the only type lost in the shadows a little bit is Poison. If that can be fixed we'll be perfect.

The "inventive rebirth" both scares me and excites me. Pokemon is a winning formula and I'm scared they might change it. yet for the most part, it's just pure excitement cause I've loved everything they've come out with so far. I'm still totally against new types but I think if they're to add a new type they'll only do it if it makes sense. So I guess have trust in the creators either way.
 
Haunter Master said:
Nowhere was it said that the silhouette was an evolution to any current Pokemon. Yet everyone is so quick to say it's an evolution, or a forme. Think of it this way, in the movie, this Pokemon is chasing Celebi, a Pokemon who can travel through time. So this Pokemon must also be able to travel through time, something Mightyena cannot do, and I doubt an evolution would give it that ability. It could very well be one of the new legendaries.
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So its dialga? maybe? Nah! LOL.

What type do you think it may be?

Maybe its a new type they will release like they released steel and dark in gen 2
 
I would think that, with the introduction of a new Pokemon from a new generation, Pokemon and Nintendo would want to make a positive impact in us. Lucario was a great example with generation four getting a very positive appeal from most people. I think that Nintendo are going to try doing that again by introducing a brand new Pokemon that will appeal to us and promote generation five positively.
 
I hope its good the fan art looks great, hopefully they'l keep the pokemon follow you thing around but what else can pokemon bring? in a description "z" came from a new area and what region do you think it will be held i think here https://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4296/gggmn.png connected to johto and kanto.
and how do YOU call the "z" pokemon ZED or ZEE ????
 
As much as I think ti looks like a new evo: Look at the facts.

The first pokemon introduced in the Metal Generation was Ho-Oh (if you count it :P In the first episode of the anime). If not, it was Togepi (or Marill... Cant remember if the Pikablu rumors came before Togepi). For the R/S generation, This time, Wailmer was the first one premiered outside of the anime, and Kecleon in the anime. For D/P, Munchlax was first.

So, out of 3 generations, only ONE has been an evolution that has premiered first. So to be honest, there's about a 33% chance of it being an evolution, and a 66% chance of it being new, just based on past incidents.
 
ok how do they expect us to be able to wait two weeks ... TWO WEEKS!!! AArrrgghhh.

hehe.. I be they just drew up some silhouette and they have no idea on how it looks, so they just showed to see what the public had to offer Mwahahaha
 
Mew~ said:
So its dialga? maybe? Nah! LOL.

What type do you think it may be?

Maybe its a new type they will release like they released steel and dark in gen 2
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If they were going to add more types they would have done it with Steel and Dark back in gen 2 so I'm pretty sure there won't be any new types. New types would just mess everything up.
 
Okay, this is probably a random topic change, but what do you want out of the starters? I want my bulky, defensive Fire-type and speedy Water-type, Game Freak!
 
rocky505 said:
If they were going to add more types they would have done it with Steel and Dark back in gen 2 so I'm pretty sure there won't be any new types. New types would just mess everything up.
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Indeed. The way I see it is, if they were to add new types they would have done it back during the 3rd gen. It's already been 2 generations since we've seen new types, and that's quite some time for the rest of the game to evolve. There's too much involved to just randomly add another type, even just one.

And Myzou, I'm definitely starting to think the same way as you. After all, we're seeing the first 5th gen Pokemon. I'd think that Nintendo/GF would want to us to feel a breath of fresh air by showing us a brand new Pokemon, free of previous evolutions from previous generations.
 
@ Suicune Girl; You've always got Torkoal and Sharpedo.
 
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