5th Gen The Generation Five Speculation Thread

[Spikey-Eared Pichu]

I agree on the Poison thing. Also, make it powerful against Water. Pollution anyone?

 

[Myles]

I'd have to disagree. Dark is more like simply fighting dirty.

I wouldn't call that "evil energy". Although there are a select few exceptions which are Dark Pulse and Dark Void.

Well, that's really what I meant. 'Fighting dirty' really is just an euphemism for 'fighting evilly'. Note that when I'm saying 'evil', I mean 'bad' (since that's the type's name in Japanese, Bad), but 'bad' can be mistaken for a quality comparison, so as to not have to clarify all the time... And the 'energy' thing is of course only going to be for the Special Dark moves, whereas the Physical Dark moves are like dark/bad/evil/dirty (DBED :P) 'actions'.

So anyway, you explaned what I meant better than me.

 

[Waffle-San]

My Hippowdon used Fire Fang. Is it a Fire type? :P

I tried to explain this to Myles too. Using a Fire type move is different from doing something categorized as "evil" How you use that Fire Fang defines whether the pokemon is good or bad. Being able to use Fire Fang is something Hippowdon is born with. Whether it uses it to burn down a tree or stop a theif is a decision it has to make.

I brought up a suggestion and possible solution. Maybe pokemon should all have reputations, something that is interchangable.

(I kind of really enjoying the debate. :P)

Perhaps a renaming of the Flying-type is in order. I propose "Air" or "Wind".

I definately would second this movement. I like the Flying type as it is, but as I explained back with your giant post (which I do remember!) it's most likely named wrong!

 

[Marilynasol]

Well, I see water as a way of cleaning impurities, so they kind of cancel each other out.

Again, with the light type, water should be weak against light. Light does evaporate water, does it not?

I need to make up a Light chart. This isn't my "approved" Light physics, but it'll do for now:

Light-Type
Offensively
x2 Damage: Dark, Ghost, Water
x.5 Damage: Grass, Electric, Rock, Steel
Immune: Fire
Defensively
x2 Damage: Psychic, Dragon, Poison (?)
x.5 Damage: Electric

 

[Eos Aduro]

Ya know, if gF employees are reading this topic, they're either busting a gut laughing out how serious this is getting, or, they're being smart, getting their notebooks and making notes =P

Pertaining to the Light-Type, I want this from you, Eos, a full explaination as to why the Light-Type shouldn't be added. Every last thing you can think of, I want to read it. That way, I can build my 'Pro-Light-Type argument' against your 'Anti-Light-Type argument'.

Ooh, there's a lot of points there, so I may not finish since I have to get out of here in ten minutes. But I'll try my best!

The first and biggest point is on new types in general. The addition of Steel and Dark was to even out the disruption caused mainly by Dragonite and psychic types, namely Alakazam. But, if you consider the current game, there are no types or Pokemon as dominant as they were in the past. New typing isn't necessary for the game to be complete. Changing moves or adding new ones can alter smaller issues perfectly while still keeping the balance. An example of this would be the switch from the Special/Physical type border to individual moves being the seperator. Many new moves were made so that the typing could keep a balance. When Ghost was physical, many moves didnt make sense, but in the switch, there was a problem, a lack of physical moves for ghosts, so Shadow Sneak, Shadow Claw, and Shadow Force were added.

Light typing specifically comes into my argument here. The idea that Dark needs an opposite has no real purpose in the game. All Pokemon have different personalities and morals, Pikachu is an electric type, but its cheerful, bright, and intelligent. Saying all dark typing is evil, therefore it needs something to counteract that evil, has already been covered by practically every typing. The majority of psychic type Pokemon can be considered good, and in movies often fight against chaos or villains. This doesnt mean we should make them light-types. It only means that they are good Pokemon morally. The balance of good vs. evil isnt set in Pokemon, the point is that everyone and everything has potential to triumph. You cant much darker than Weavile, but does that mean its weaker, that it needs a hero to destroy it? No, because that role is covered by a broad spectrum of Pokemon. Light-typing may add a new aspect to the game, but it lowers the already set equality.

Those are my two biggest, but I will have at least 4 other paragraphes up in two hours! So if you want to comment on my current arguments go ahead, but I probably wont argue back until my entire post is finished. So it might be better too wait. Or if not, my other arguments are that its not needed competitively, it could get in trouble with religious or political figures, that reworking it into the game would be a step backwards in many places, and why now wouldn't be the best time.

Also, I just want to say i mean no offense to anyone, Im just a pationate debater!

 

[Waffle-San]

Well, I see water as a way of cleaning impurities, so they kind of cancel each other out.

Again, with the light type, water should be weak against light. Light does evaporate water, does it not?

I need to make up a Light chart. This isn't my "approved" Light physics, but it'll do for now:

Light-Type
Offensively
x2 Damage: Dark, Ghost, Water
x.5 Damage: Grass, Electric, Rock, Steel
Immune: Fire
Defensively
x2 Damage: Psychic, Dragon, Poison (?)
x.5 Damage: Electric

Heat evaporates water which is a by-product of light as 1) Earth's biggest source of light is also it's biggest source of heat, the sun and 2) Nothing is 100% efficient and during energy transfer's heat is generally a from of "wasted" or lossed energy.

 

[iLaxbe!]

I'm not sure on some of these, Swagger doesn't work for me. Inflating the person's ego to confuse them? Doesn't seem all that pure to me...

Mismagius is very much a ghost type and pretty mischievous on it's own. I don't think everything has to have an opposite. Mismagius (and Misdreavus) are hardly the opposite counterpart for Honchkrok (and Murkrow) Look at Misdreavus' DPPt pokedex entries.

Diamond: It loves to sneak up on people late at night, than startle them with it's shriek like cry.
Pearl: It gets nourishment from fear that it absorbs into it's red orbs. In daytime, it sleeps in darkness.
Platinum: A pokemon that startles pokemon in the middle of the night. It gathers fear as its energy.

Hardly "pure"

Aham, any new thoughts are welcome!

As well written as that was it still has a couple holes.

1) It's based on the fact that everything needs an opposite and some of the opposites you mentioned are stretches at the least. Bug and Poison don't oppose eachother any more and are often dual types on the same pokemon something which leads me to my next argument.

2)"No Light-type Pokémon can be in a Dark Pokémon card. So Raichu, Wigglytuff and Ampharos are out. But Light can still use Dark moves and vice-versa. There are no 3 Stage Evolution all with Dark type nor Dark babies by now, so no Light babies for guarantee." It again follows the "need" for an opposite to much. There isn't an opposite for everything, and by learning dark moves it's contradicting the basis of it's type. But mostly, based on the typing a Blissey cannot act out of line. If it does than it is no longer of the light type.

Actually, the idea of a Light Pokémon came from the opposition, isn't it? Do you remember Neo Destiny cards? Only Light and Shining Pokémon could hold a Miracle Energy.

Who's to say that chart is correct, and what GF intended to do? I can make the arguement that Fighting is Dark's counterpart. As you probably know, Dark-types rely on trickery and dirty fighting, the Fighting-type is based on martial arts combat. Martial artists are often associated with honor and pride; the exact opposite of the tactics used by Dark-types. If you've watched any action oriented show aimed at children (lolpokemon) you'd know Fighting Dirty<Fighting With Honor.

Every type does NOT have a counter part, the majority of Laxbe's types arent even direct counters. A counter-part also leads to it being EQUAL. Having a type that beats another one isnt opposition, its the game balancing. I'll show you the chart.

GRASS vs. FIRE (Fire beats grass, 100%. So why is it a counterpart? They arent opposites, Grass is destroyed by fire.)
WATER vs. ELECTRIC (Same as above, and they couldnt really be counterparts, water is a substance, electricty is a form of energy. They dont really oppose)
NORMAL vs. GHOST (This one isnt TOO bad, they are fairly even)
FLYING vs. GROUND (Having an immunity against a counter-part doesnt lead me to believe that they oppose.)
BUG vs. POISON (This si the biggest reach yet, even with the past RBY info. Bug and Poison are so similar that saying they're counter-parts is just wrong.)
PSYCHIC vs. FIGHTING (Other decent example, they are opposites, but still with one being dominant.)
ROCK vs. ICE (So, they're solid. So is grass, and steel, and ground, and fighting. This is also a reach, rock and ice dont oppose in the slightest, they have nothing that links them together)
DARK vs. LIGHT (No need to debunk what doesnt exist)
DRAGON vs. STEEL (This is stats and type-wise, not really anything to do with the types themselves. Steel was pretty much made to resist dragon and psychic, but I wouldnt call it a counter-part)

Oh, lord. This came when I wanted to pair types, I never used the word counterparts, but rivalry. (You choose a Bulbasaur and your Rival takes a Charmander, something like that)

Pertaining to the Light-Type, I want this from you, Eos, a full explaination as to why the Light-Type shouldn't be added. Every last thing you can think of, I want to read it. That way, I can build my 'Pro-Light-Type argument' against your 'Anti-Light-Type argument'.

NEP, great!

Perhaps a renaming of the Flying-type is in order. I propose "Air" or "Wind".

Aerial, IMO.
Sorry I couldn't read your whole post, the idea of Pokémon losing or changing types isn't likely to me.. But a third type would be cool (Dragon Gyarados, Flying Dustox)

I brought up a suggestion and possible solution. Maybe pokemon should all have reputations, something that is interchangable.

Maybe, before natures were created... Now we know the personalities looking at the Summary.

Eos Aduro, now I need my ten minutes. I will answer you soon, okay?

 

[rocky505]

Come on guys let's just discuss something besides light type crap before we get into a huge argument. What type do you think this newmon will be? I say it'll be Fighting/Dark.

 

[Myles]

The first and biggest point is on new types in general. The addition of Steel and Dark was to even out the disruption caused mainly by Dragonite and psychic types, namely Alakazam. But, if you consider the current game, there are no types or Pokemon as dominant as they were in the past. New typing isn't necessary for the game to be complete. Changing moves or adding new ones can alter smaller issues perfectly while still keeping the balance. An example of this would be the switch from the Special/Physical type border to individual moves being the seperator. Many new moves were made so that the typing could keep a balance. When Ghost was physical, many moves didnt make sense, but in the switch, there was a problem, a lack of physical moves for ghosts, so Shadow Sneak, Shadow Claw, and Shadow Force were added.

As I said earlier, it doesn't need to be the same reason every time. If Dark and Steel weren't made, that wouldn't be an excuse, yet people would still be wanting new types.

Light typing specifically comes into my argument here. The idea that Dark needs an opposite has no real purpose in the game. All Pokemon have different personalities and morals, Pikachu is an electric type, but its cheerful, bright, and intelligent. Saying all dark typing is evil, therefore it needs something to counteract that evil, has already been covered by practically every typing. The majority of psychic type Pokemon can be considered good, and in movies often fight against chaos or villains. This doesnt mean we should make them light-types. It only means that they are good Pokemon morally. The balance of good vs. evil isnt set in Pokemon, the point is that everyone and everything has potential to triumph. You cant much darker than Weavile, but does that mean its weaker, that it needs a hero to destroy it? No, because that role is covered by a broad spectrum of Pokemon. Light-typing may add a new aspect to the game, but it lowers the already set equality.

Those types are neither Light nor Dark. They're neutral. Light Pokemon could be the same as with Weavile. As has been said in canon, Pokemon aren't good nor bad, it depends on the trainer. Dark and Light are jusjt badling styles. Besides Aether wouldn't really have to be 'good' per se. Just look at ancient Greek mythology. As for the controversy, I think evolution, Arceus and Dark would be more likely to stir up trouble. Besies, Pokemon is no longer a fad, so people aren't looking for things to complain about as much anymore. That's why most of the controvesy is from earlier in the series and why the censorship is less now.

Come on guys let's just discuss something besides light type crap before we get into a huge argument. What type do you think this newmon will be? I say it'll be Fighting/Dark.

All Gen V stuff has to go in the one topic, so multiple discussions can be going on at the one time.

 

[Waffle-San]

Aham, any new thoughts are welcome!

Those were new when I posted them!! And I think it's safe to assume you agree with me. ;) At least that Misdreavus should in no way be a light type whether you agree with the typing or not!!

Actually, the idea of a Light Pokémon came from the opposition, isn't it? Do you remember Neo Destiny cards? Only Light and Shining Pokémon could hold a Miracle Energy.

I don't think it's fair to relate the cards and the game. They're so different. The basis for battling is different and pokemon aren't even the same types as they are in the game!! That does bring up what I meant by reputation. You said:

Maybe, before natures were created... Now we know the personalities looking at the Summary.

That's kind of what I mean. Those summaries are there, now why don't they build on them and give them more meaning!! If you want to give your pokemon a "Miracle Energy" to hold or whatever than that could be based on their nature/reputation/summary not on what type they are.

 

[rocky505]

All this light type garbage is just starting an argument so let's end it "THERE WILL NOT BE A LIGHT TYPE!"

 

[iLaxbe!]

Ooh, there's a lot of points there, so I may not finish since I have to get out of here in ten minutes. But I'll try my best!

The first and biggest point is on new types in general. The addition of Steel and Dark was to even out the disruption caused mainly by Dragonite and psychic types, namely Alakazam. But, if you consider the current game, there are no types or Pokemon as dominant as they were in the past. New typing isn't necessary for the game to be complete. Changing moves or adding new ones can alter smaller issues perfectly while still keeping the balance. An example of this would be the switch from the Special/Physical type border to individual moves being the seperator. Many new moves were made so that the typing could keep a balance. When Ghost was physical, many moves didnt make sense, but in the switch, there was a problem, a lack of physical moves for ghosts, so Shadow Sneak, Shadow Claw, and Shadow Force were added.

Light typing specifically comes into my argument here. The idea that Dark needs an opposite has no real purpose in the game. All Pokemon have different personalities and morals, Pikachu is an electric type, but its cheerful, bright, and intelligent. Saying all dark typing is evil, therefore it needs something to counteract that evil, has already been covered by practically every typing. The majority of psychic type Pokemon can be considered good, and in movies often fight against chaos or villains. This doesnt mean we should make them light-types. It only means that they are good Pokemon morally. The balance of good vs. evil isnt set in Pokemon, the point is that everyone and everything has potential to triumph. You cant much darker than Weavile, but does that mean its weaker, that it needs a hero to destroy it? No, because that role is covered by a broad spectrum of Pokemon. Light-typing may add a new aspect to the game, but it lowers the already set equality.

Those are my two biggest, but I will have at least 4 other paragraphes up in two hours! So if you want to comment on my current arguments go ahead, but I probably wont argue back until my entire post is finished. So it might be better too wait. Or if not, my other arguments are that its not needed competitively, it could get in trouble with religious or political figures, that reworking it into the game would be a step backwards in many places, and why now wouldn't be the best time.

Also, I just want to say i mean no offense to anyone, Im just a pationate debater!

If what you need are reasons for a new type, we are side-by-side in this debate. I really don't believe a new type is needed, nor probable.

I posted the Light-type because I couldn't stand the debate going to one side. Everyone must have their opinions heard and respected. If the person doesn't have arguments to defend it's point, someone (me) has to come up and help. This doesn't mean I think it is going to happen in fact. It's been 12 years since Dark and Steel type were created, 242 new Pokémon were created based on a balance. There's no way Game Freak is going to take the risk of ruining this.

Plus, we are all here making points for something that is impossible. Do you know what I call this? Love. If I didn't love Pokémon so much, I wouldn't be here wasting my sleep time to convince people of something that not even I believe. But this is a speculation thread, and I want to hear everyone opinions, with or without proofs!!! Let's share whatever it comes to our mind. Some may have better points, but WTF Pokéfans are we if we stop posting interesting matters because of one or two hungry debaters.

Ah, I'm sleepy. See you guys tomorrow. I'll try to read the posts, but it's nor guaranteed.

 

[Waffle-San]

Those types are neither Light nor Dark. They're neutral. Light Pokemon could be the same as with Weavile. As has been said in canon, Pokemon aren't good nor bad, it depends on the trainer. Dark and Light are jusjt badling styles. Besides Aether wouldn't really have to be 'good' per se. Just look at ancient Greek mythology. As for the controversy, I think evolution, Arceus and Dark would be more likely to stir up trouble. Besies, Pokemon is no longer a fad, so people aren't looking for things to complain about as much anymore. That's why most of the controvesy is from earlier in the series and why the censorship is less now.



All Gen V stuff has to go in the one topic, so multiple discussions can be going on at the one time.

I think (I can't speak for Eos) that's what we've both been trying to say and I expanded on in my last reply to you. (Whether you thought the debate wasn't going anywhere or you just didn't see it I'm not sure). They're battling styles so it's not fair to base a pokemon's typing on it.

 

[インフェルノの津波]

Can we talk about something else now? LIKE WHERE WILL THE NEW REGION TAKE PLACE?

Goddang, just wait for GF to tell us about New Types, okay? This is making me sick...we need moar topics!

 

[Yamikarasu]

I kind of like the theory that Psychic is weak to the things that are scary, so that explains Dark, Bug, and Ghost. So no, Psychic does not have anything to do with the Light/Dark pair.

I think it's definitely time to introduce a new type, if Gamefreak is even planning on introducing a new type at all.

 

[Waffle-San]

All this light type garbage is just starting an argument so let's end it "THERE WILL NOT BE A LIGHT TYPE!"

What iLaxbe said on the last page. It's about the debate really. No one is really getting that upset with one another, as there's no reason to. If you want to talk about something else no one is stopping you from starting another conversation yourself!

 

[Marilynasol]

I'm just tossing this in, but here are the Pokemon that I think should reconsider a light-type change (and why).

[FONT=&quot]1.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Pichu (Electric/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Pikachu (Electric/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Raichu (Electric/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Ash's Pikachu just begs for a second type.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Slowking (Water/Light) ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Not entirely sure...[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]5.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Arcanine[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Only if Ninetails becomes Fire/Ghost (Remember the Anime)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]6.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Mew (Psychic/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Only if Mewtwo becomes Psychic/Dark[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]7.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Meganium (Grass/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Only if the other two starters get a second type from evolving as well.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Ampharos (Electric/Fighting)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I actually think that Ampharos should be fighting-type because of its posture, but some of you seem to stick with the name of the species.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]9.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Togepi (Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]10.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Togetic (Light/Flying)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]11.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Togekiss (Light/Flying)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The design on all three is my image for "light-type". The same design also applies to other light types such as Lati@s.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Azurill (Light) ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]13.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Marill (Water/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]14.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Azumarill (Water/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Marills are the Pikablus...[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Bellossom (Grass/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]This poor thing lost a type evolving... Besides, it looks like a light and cheerful Pokemon and it evolves via Sun Stone.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Sunflora (Grass/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Evolves via Sun Stone.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Beautifly (Bug/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Possibly to mirror Dustox.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]18.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Plusle (Electric/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]19.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Minun (Electric/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]They're a part of the Pikachu/Pikablu family (almost)![/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]20.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Volbeat (Bug/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]21.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Illumise (Bug/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]They produce a light.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]22.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Swablu (Light/Flying)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]23.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Altaria (Light/Flying)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]They just look more like light types than dragon types to me.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]24.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Gorebyss (Water/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Well, if Huntail becomes Water/Electric or something.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]25.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Luvdisc (Water/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It's a love Pokemon...[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]26.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Froslass (Ice/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The design matches Togepi/Lati@s. Also, in hand, Glaelie's type should be changed to Dark (and males only).[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]27.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Latios (Light/Dragon)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]28.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Latias (Light/Dragon)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In their Pokedex entry, it says that their down reflects the light. Also, look at their "light" design.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]29.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Pachirisu (Electric/Light) ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It's a cousin to the "Pikachu/Pikablu" family... a distant cousin.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]30.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Cherrim (Grass/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Blooms in sunlight.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]31.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Finneon (Water/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]32.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Lumineon (Water/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]They glow/reflect light.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]33.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Uxie (Ghost)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]34.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Mesprit (Psychic)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]35.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Azelf (Dark)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Well, I'm not quite sure what types would coordinate to each one in the trio, I just don't like the fact that all of them are monotype psychic Mew-wannabes.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]36.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Phione (Water/Light, or No Longer Legendary) ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]37.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Manaphy (Water/Light, or No Longer Legendary w/ 80 Average Stats)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Kind-of light-ish.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]38.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Cresselia (Psychic/Light)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Only if Darkrai becomes Dark/Ghost[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]39.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Shaymin (Grass/Light in Land Forme)[/FONT]


Also, to whoever wants trio-typed, go dig a ditch. Two types are complicated enough! Besides, you wouldn't want a Rock/Ground/Water type with an x8 weakness against grass, would you?

 

[Myles]

I think (I can't speak for Eos) that's what we've both been trying to say and I expanded on in my last reply to you. (Whether you thought the debate wasn't going anywhere or you just didn't see it I'm not sure). They're battling styles so it's not fair to base a pokemon's typing on it.

But types are battling stlyes. And are you saying you regret Dark being added? I dislike the 'things' rather than elements more. That is to say, Bug (mainly) and Dragon.

 

[Waffle-San]

But types are battling stlyes. And are you saying you regret Dark being added? I dislike the 'things' rather than elements more. That is to say, Bug (mainly) and Dragon.

They're the basis of battling strategies sure but I wouldn't go as far ast to call them battling styles. I'm very thankful for Dark's inclusion. As I said before though, what I dislike is Japanese definition of the dark type as I don't believe that is enough to be a basis for a type.

Yeah when you really think about it, Bug as a type doesn't make much sense either. That's not really 5th generation related though. :(

 

[Kirbychu]

Can we talk about something else now? LIKE WHERE WILL THE NEW REGION TAKE PLACE?

Goddang, just wait for GF to tell us about New Types, okay? This is making me sick...we need moar topics!

AND ANOTHER THING ABOUT LIGHT-TYPES!

I'm rather tired of this discussion too. But who's to say we all have to be talking about the same exact thing? Anyways, I'm tired of Japan-based regions. Having all the regions based off the same small country makes things look too similar. The journey through Sinnoh just felt like someone simply shifted the routes around in Kanto. I'd like to see a region based on some other part of the world. What about the Himalayas? The Serengeti? New York?